2023 RDX Type S
07-13-2022, 02:03 PM
#41
Well it looks like the debate regarding Honda not going for hybrids has been settled with the new CR-V power train options. Now, if Acura follows suit, I think it would suit their performance variants well (which is exactly what H did with the sporty versions of the CR-V).
That said, conceding we’ve not been given any indication regarding if/when an RDX Type S will be offered, I still hold out hope... in fact, I think they could make a huge splash with an RDX Type R!! I think it would even make sense, given that they’ve made a Type S version of the larger, heavier MDX, the RDX’s performance variant could (should?) be even more hardcore.
I concede it doesn’t look like they’ve been doing much in the direction of the performance models, but other makers have been keeping up relatively decent efforts (Hyundai/Genesis, Toyota/Lexus). And there’s always an important comparison to the German makes (which have kept up their motorsports variant offerings), as Acura likes to position itself as the “value premium alternative” to the luxury products.
Additionally, for marketing sake, a car manufacturer always holds that “wild” card to play: that is, to stir up interest in their brand with exciting, even unexpected performance models. Those particular products don’t have to be super profitable themselves (or can even take a loss)... they function by creating attention/interest and increased clout/excitement to the brand.
To that end, my hope (and wildly unfounded prediction) is that Honda could bring back the S2000 and Acura can make an RDX Type R (probably after an Integra Type R)!
If anything, it’s fun to dream, but we also can’t completely forget and despair about how enthusiastic and persistent voices of smaller interest groups like ourselves does every-so-often break into the corporate board room and precipitate some unexpected results. Keep dreaming and requesting!
That said, conceding we’ve not been given any indication regarding if/when an RDX Type S will be offered, I still hold out hope... in fact, I think they could make a huge splash with an RDX Type R!! I think it would even make sense, given that they’ve made a Type S version of the larger, heavier MDX, the RDX’s performance variant could (should?) be even more hardcore.
I concede it doesn’t look like they’ve been doing much in the direction of the performance models, but other makers have been keeping up relatively decent efforts (Hyundai/Genesis, Toyota/Lexus). And there’s always an important comparison to the German makes (which have kept up their motorsports variant offerings), as Acura likes to position itself as the “value premium alternative” to the luxury products.
Additionally, for marketing sake, a car manufacturer always holds that “wild” card to play: that is, to stir up interest in their brand with exciting, even unexpected performance models. Those particular products don’t have to be super profitable themselves (or can even take a loss)... they function by creating attention/interest and increased clout/excitement to the brand.
To that end, my hope (and wildly unfounded prediction) is that Honda could bring back the S2000 and Acura can make an RDX Type R (probably after an Integra Type R)!
If anything, it’s fun to dream, but we also can’t completely forget and despair about how enthusiastic and persistent voices of smaller interest groups like ourselves does every-so-often break into the corporate board room and precipitate some unexpected results. Keep dreaming and requesting!
07-13-2022, 02:46 PM
#42
Well it looks like the debate regarding Honda not going for hybrids has been settled with the new CR-V power train options. Now, if Acura follows suit, I think it would suit their performance variants well (which is exactly what H did with the sporty versions of the CR-V).
That said, conceding we’ve not been given any indication regarding if/when an RDX Type S will be offered, I still hold out hope... in fact, I think they could make a huge splash with an RDX Type R!! I think it would even make sense, given that they’ve made a Type S version of the larger, heavier MDX, the RDX’s performance variant could (should?) be even more hardcore.
I concede it doesn’t look like they’ve been doing much in the direction of the performance models, but other makers have been keeping up relatively decent efforts (Hyundai/Genesis, Toyota/Lexus). And there’s always an important comparison to the German makes (which have kept up their motorsports variant offerings), as Acura likes to position itself as the “value premium alternative” to the luxury products.
Additionally, for marketing sake, a car manufacturer always holds that “wild” card to play: that is, to stir up interest in their brand with exciting, even unexpected performance models. Those particular products don’t have to be super profitable themselves (or can even take a loss)... they function by creating attention/interest and increased clout/excitement to the brand.
To that end, my hope (and wildly unfounded prediction) is that Honda could bring back the S2000 and Acura can make an RDX Type R (probably after an Integra Type R)!
If anything, it’s fun to dream, but we also can’t completely forget and despair about how enthusiastic and persistent voices of smaller interest groups like ourselves does every-so-often break into the corporate board room and precipitate some unexpected results. Keep dreaming and requesting!
That said, conceding we’ve not been given any indication regarding if/when an RDX Type S will be offered, I still hold out hope... in fact, I think they could make a huge splash with an RDX Type R!! I think it would even make sense, given that they’ve made a Type S version of the larger, heavier MDX, the RDX’s performance variant could (should?) be even more hardcore.
I concede it doesn’t look like they’ve been doing much in the direction of the performance models, but other makers have been keeping up relatively decent efforts (Hyundai/Genesis, Toyota/Lexus). And there’s always an important comparison to the German makes (which have kept up their motorsports variant offerings), as Acura likes to position itself as the “value premium alternative” to the luxury products.
Additionally, for marketing sake, a car manufacturer always holds that “wild” card to play: that is, to stir up interest in their brand with exciting, even unexpected performance models. Those particular products don’t have to be super profitable themselves (or can even take a loss)... they function by creating attention/interest and increased clout/excitement to the brand.
To that end, my hope (and wildly unfounded prediction) is that Honda could bring back the S2000 and Acura can make an RDX Type R (probably after an Integra Type R)!
If anything, it’s fun to dream, but we also can’t completely forget and despair about how enthusiastic and persistent voices of smaller interest groups like ourselves does every-so-often break into the corporate board room and precipitate some unexpected results. Keep dreaming and requesting!
Last edited by fiatlux; 07-13-2022 at 02:48 PM.
07-13-2022, 04:55 PM
#43
Well it looks like the debate regarding Honda not going for hybrids has been settled with the new CR-V power train options. Now, if Acura follows suit, I think it would suit their performance variants well (which is exactly what H did with the sporty versions of the CR-V).
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07-14-2022, 09:33 AM
#44
Three Wheelin'
Well it looks like the debate regarding Honda not going for hybrids has been settled with the new CR-V power train options. Now, if Acura follows suit, I think it would suit their performance variants well (which is exactly what H did with the sporty versions of the CR-V).
07-14-2022, 09:40 AM
#45
There was a debate? Honda currently offered hybrids and in this climate it makes sense to just continue the line while they work on EVs. Acura has stated that they are going right to EV so you will not be seeing Acura hybrids (and my guess is that Acura will be doing a complete brand reinvention with the move to EV).
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07-14-2022, 09:50 AM
#46
There was a debate? Honda currently offered hybrids and in this climate it makes sense to just continue the line while they work on EVs. Acura has stated that they are going right to EV so you will not be seeing Acura hybrids (and my guess is that Acura will be doing a complete brand reinvention with the move to EV).
In any regard, my opening point about a “hybrid debate” (erroneously based on a quick, inaccurate scan of the preceding discussion) was just a set up for my musings about possibilities... a lot of the discussion makes attempts to “analytically read” what Acura is doing/going to do... my suggestion is there are still possibilities that can be hoped for that don’t follow “evidence” or government regulations.
Personally, I don’t see the EV industry really replacing everything... Notwithstanding the clear push by governmental regulations (and agendas, for that matter!). It’s a contrarian point of view in the current climate, for sure, but still worth considering, IMO.
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EFR (07-14-2022)
07-14-2022, 10:52 AM
#47
Three Wheelin'
For reference re: Acura moving to EV: https://jalopnik.com/the-next-new-ac...s-a-1848994849
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
07-14-2022, 12:36 PM
#48
For reference re: Acura moving to EV: https://jalopnik.com/the-next-new-ac...s-a-1848994849
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
07-14-2022, 02:48 PM
#49
Burning Brakes
For reference re: Acura moving to EV: https://jalopnik.com/the-next-new-ac...s-a-1848994849
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
And it looks like the first electric SUV will be a 2024 model and it may be called an ADX.
07-14-2022, 03:20 PM
#50
Thanks, interesting. I know nothing, but it seems to me the car manufacturers so aggressively and so quickly jumping on the EV bandwagon and dumping ICE, may backfire at least on either them, or the consumers. I also thought it was interesting that Acura did not include the divisive 'trackpad' in the Integra. Does that mean Acura is moving on from the trackpad? Or is it just because tis just a Civic in disguise and they didn't want to put that much development in it? Or does it mean nothing?
07-17-2022, 12:04 PM
#51
Burning Brakes
100%. They didn't even bother with swapping out the CVT with a DCT which was available off the shelf and which Honda has paired with the 1.5T in the HR-V. That would have been a cheaper certification job than putting in the Acura infotainment system and they still didn't do it.
07-17-2022, 12:34 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
CVT? I have never had a CVT...test driven a couple...but understand how divisive they are and in general how much people dislike them. It is disappointing if Acura, in reintroducing the Integra was just looking to cut costs instead of delivering a reasonably standout vehicle in its class. Why even bother getting an Integra instead of a Civic?
07-17-2022, 03:38 PM
#53
Burning Brakes
CVT? I have never had a CVT...test driven a couple...but understand how divisive they are and in general how much people dislike them. It is disappointing if Acura, in reintroducing the Integra was just looking to cut costs instead of delivering a reasonably standout vehicle in its class. Why even bother getting an Integra instead of a Civic?
The Integra has always been a dressed up Civic and this time around it's no different so I understand why Acura did what they did, just a bit disappointing. I hope the Integra Type-S doesn't disappoint though.
07-17-2022, 06:44 PM
#54
For me the primary reason would be the versatility of the liftback. I guess the styling is arguably a bit better, too, and the dealer experience and warranty are additional arguments in favor of the Integra. That's a substantial price premium to pay, however. Fans are going to be furious if they don't offer a Type S, Everyone assumes they will, but to my knowledge an Integra Type S still has not been confirmed.
Last edited by HotRodW; 07-17-2022 at 06:45 PM. Reason: Typo
07-18-2022, 08:25 AM
#55
Three Wheelin'
I've driven it a few times in a CR-V and a rental Civic. It's......okay. I think it's perfectly fine for a daily driver - most people wouldn't even know that they were driving a CVT car but for any enthusiast it's pretty noticeable and if the application is in a sporty car then it sucks.
The Integra has always been a dressed up Civic and this time around it's no different so I understand why Acura did what they did, just a bit disappointing. I hope the Integra Type-S doesn't disappoint though.
The Integra has always been a dressed up Civic and this time around it's no different so I understand why Acura did what they did, just a bit disappointing. I hope the Integra Type-S doesn't disappoint though.
For me the primary reason would be the versatility of the liftback. I guess the styling is arguably a bit better, too, and the dealer experience and warranty are additional arguments in favor of the Integra. That's a substantial price premium to pay, however. Fans are going to be furious if they don't offer a Type S, Everyone assumes they will, but to my knowledge an Integra Type S still has not been confirmed.
- Acura has made it official that the Integra is their last ICE car.
- It looks like their first EV, an SUV, will be released for the 2024 MY.
- The current market is nuts in every way possible and it doesn't look like that is going to be changing anytime soon.
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07-22-2022, 04:36 PM
#57
I don't think that there will be an Integra Type-S, at least in ICE form. My reasoning:
- Acura has made it official that the Integra is their last ICE car.
- It looks like their first EV, an SUV, will be released for the 2024 MY.
- The current market is nuts in every way possible and it doesn't look like that is going to be changing anytime soon.
- Acura has made it official that the Integra is their last ICE car.
- It looks like their first EV, an SUV, will be released for the 2024 MY.
- The current market is nuts in every way possible and it doesn't look like that is going to be changing anytime soon.
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pilozm (07-24-2022)
08-04-2022, 08:57 PM
#59
Everything Acura posted in their leaked roadmap from two years ago has come true so far.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...1ae4625013.png
But the interesting thing is that the Integra was getting a TypeS and the RDX wasn't on that roadmap. This is primarily why I felt that Acura's plans were for the Lyriq twin to be named a 2024 RDX, but as I mentioned a few weeks ago it seems like the plans have changed. The Sony announcement came out, the ADX was trademarked, and Acura PR told numerous publications that the Autonews article on the Integra being their last ICE car was incorrect and that "Integra will not be the last new ICE vehicle from Acura."
I've been looking really hard to see if the 23 CRV uses the previously-Acura-only RDX platform, but haven't found anyone who confirmed that yet. Since the 23 CRV has a hybrid version, if the platform is shared I could see Acura pivoting from the above plans and launching a Hybrid RDX as a TypeS. (The 0-60 on my MDX Hybrid is rated only 0.2s slower than the current MDX TypeS by car&driver). A hybrid TypeS would earn the RDX both performance sales and fuel-economy sales, just like the MDX Hybrid would have if Acura didn't mis-time the market.
And Acura now has the both the ADX and ZDX badges trademarked, and either one (or both) could be assigned to their 2024 EV.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...1ae4625013.png
But the interesting thing is that the Integra was getting a TypeS and the RDX wasn't on that roadmap. This is primarily why I felt that Acura's plans were for the Lyriq twin to be named a 2024 RDX, but as I mentioned a few weeks ago it seems like the plans have changed. The Sony announcement came out, the ADX was trademarked, and Acura PR told numerous publications that the Autonews article on the Integra being their last ICE car was incorrect and that "Integra will not be the last new ICE vehicle from Acura."
I've been looking really hard to see if the 23 CRV uses the previously-Acura-only RDX platform, but haven't found anyone who confirmed that yet. Since the 23 CRV has a hybrid version, if the platform is shared I could see Acura pivoting from the above plans and launching a Hybrid RDX as a TypeS. (The 0-60 on my MDX Hybrid is rated only 0.2s slower than the current MDX TypeS by car&driver). A hybrid TypeS would earn the RDX both performance sales and fuel-economy sales, just like the MDX Hybrid would have if Acura didn't mis-time the market.
And Acura now has the both the ADX and ZDX badges trademarked, and either one (or both) could be assigned to their 2024 EV.
Last edited by mvl; 08-04-2022 at 09:01 PM.
09-08-2022, 10:19 PM
#60
Feel like I am going to be beating a dead horse, but I had an interesting encounter today so here are some new Type-S information:
There will be RDX Type-S, but not this generation. I did not follow up asking more questions, but I think it is safe to infer that 4G RDX is still ICE judging by Acura's EV schedule (2024 ZDX, then 2026 in-house platform).
ILX.... I mean Integra Type-S, will not arrive this year but in '23.
There will be RDX Type-S, but not this generation. I did not follow up asking more questions, but I think it is safe to infer that 4G RDX is still ICE judging by Acura's EV schedule (2024 ZDX, then 2026 in-house platform).
ILX.... I mean Integra Type-S, will not arrive this year but in '23.
10-06-2022, 01:01 PM
#61
They already have the tech/model: rlx sport hybrid... Just wrapping that powertrain with RDX suit or MDX suit gets you to 377hp and 30+ mpg...
10-06-2022, 05:42 PM
#63
The RLX didn't get 30+ mpg (EPA 28/29/28), how would a blockier crossover? Besides, they already tried a similar approach with the MDX Sport Hybrid. It was great to drive, but even with less power than the RLX it wasn't terribly efficient (26/27/27). Acura pulled the plug on the MDX hybrid for a reason.
10-18-2022, 02:36 PM
#64
Three Wheelin'
No Type-S news but I didn't expect there to be:
Since the crossover received a refreshening in 2022, this year’s updates are minor but include three years of AcuraLink services at no additional cost. This is a boon for consumers as the Security package provides Automatic Collision Notification, Enhanced Roadside Assistance, and a live agent that can help you in emergencies.
Customers will also get three years of access to the Remote package, which allows owners to remotely start and stop their vehicle as well as remotely lock and unlock doors. The package also includes a find my car feature, a stolen vehicle locator, and vehicle alarm alerts. Parents can also keep tabs on their kids with speed alerts and a geofence alert, which warns owners if their vehicle enters or leaves a specific area.
https://www-carscoops-com.cdn.amppro...nk-services%2F
2023 Acura RDX Gets $750 Price Hike, Three Year Subscription To AcuraLink Services
The RDX is one of Acura’s best-selling vehicles and it’s getting a handful of updates for 2023.Since the crossover received a refreshening in 2022, this year’s updates are minor but include three years of AcuraLink services at no additional cost. This is a boon for consumers as the Security package provides Automatic Collision Notification, Enhanced Roadside Assistance, and a live agent that can help you in emergencies.
Customers will also get three years of access to the Remote package, which allows owners to remotely start and stop their vehicle as well as remotely lock and unlock doors. The package also includes a find my car feature, a stolen vehicle locator, and vehicle alarm alerts. Parents can also keep tabs on their kids with speed alerts and a geofence alert, which warns owners if their vehicle enters or leaves a specific area.
https://www-carscoops-com.cdn.amppro...nk-services%2F
10-18-2022, 02:38 PM
#65
No Type-S news but I didn't expect there to be:
Since the crossover received a refreshening in 2022, this year’s updates are minor but include three years of AcuraLink services at no additional cost. This is a boon for consumers as the Security package provides Automatic Collision Notification, Enhanced Roadside Assistance, and a live agent that can help you in emergencies.
Customers will also get three years of access to the Remote package, which allows owners to remotely start and stop their vehicle as well as remotely lock and unlock doors. The package also includes a find my car feature, a stolen vehicle locator, and vehicle alarm alerts. Parents can also keep tabs on their kids with speed alerts and a geofence alert, which warns owners if their vehicle enters or leaves a specific area.
https://www-carscoops-com.cdn.amppro...nk-services%2F
2023 Acura RDX Gets $750 Price Hike, Three Year Subscription To AcuraLink Services
The RDX is one of Acura’s best-selling vehicles and it’s getting a handful of updates for 2023.Since the crossover received a refreshening in 2022, this year’s updates are minor but include three years of AcuraLink services at no additional cost. This is a boon for consumers as the Security package provides Automatic Collision Notification, Enhanced Roadside Assistance, and a live agent that can help you in emergencies.
Customers will also get three years of access to the Remote package, which allows owners to remotely start and stop their vehicle as well as remotely lock and unlock doors. The package also includes a find my car feature, a stolen vehicle locator, and vehicle alarm alerts. Parents can also keep tabs on their kids with speed alerts and a geofence alert, which warns owners if their vehicle enters or leaves a specific area.
https://www-carscoops-com.cdn.amppro...nk-services%2F
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01-12-2023, 04:54 PM
#67
Alright everyone...I'm hearing rumors of a tease soon and announcement during summer.
Excited to see this RDX Type-S!
Excited to see this RDX Type-S!
01-14-2023, 12:38 PM
#68
01-15-2023, 09:41 AM
#69
If it's for the RDX, it's not going to be for this generation. They already have the ZDX announced and that's not coming until 2024. If there's going to be an RDX Type-S, it's likely for the next gen and coming in 2025 or later when the next generation should be slated to be released.
01-15-2023, 11:36 AM
#70
Burning Brakes
https://www.reddit.com/r/Acura/comme...g_info_inside/ - Rumour mill here says Acura talked about a "small" CUV coming out and if it's based on the HR-V (right size) then it'd be fairly easy to do a type-S version as it could hold the 2.0T in its various forms (252hp, 272hp, 315hp). Not sure they'd spend the development dollars on that though and it'd be certainly weird if only 2 out of 3 of their SUVs had a Type S version. Seems like the 4G RDX would be a natural to get the Type-S version - I'm guessing the 4G RDX will be an evolution of the 3G RDX but with a double wishbone front suspension and the turbo V6 with maybe a hybrid 4 cylinder as the base powertrain (long shot IMO).
01-15-2023, 02:57 PM
#71
https://www.reddit.com/r/Acura/comme...g_info_inside/ - Rumour mill here says Acura talked about a "small" CUV coming out and if it's based on the HR-V (right size) then it'd be fairly easy to do a type-S version as it could hold the 2.0T in its various forms (252hp, 272hp, 315hp). Not sure they'd spend the development dollars on that though and it'd be certainly weird if only 2 out of 3 of their SUVs had a Type S version. Seems like the 4G RDX would be a natural to get the Type-S version - I'm guessing the 4G RDX will be an evolution of the 3G RDX but with a double wishbone front suspension and the turbo V6 with maybe a hybrid 4 cylinder as the base powertrain (long shot IMO).
Regarding 4G, initially I thought 4G would be 3G EVO, but the moment I saw the new CRV, I realized that 4G is on a new platform. The CRV engine bay is comically large, as if one can fit two 1.5T inside. This only means one thing - the front structure was designed to house a larger engine and the space-eating top mount from the double A suspension.
01-20-2023, 07:13 AM
#72
The Mazda CX70 will be the RDX Type S that Honda will never make. Longitudinal 3.3L i6 Turbo, RWD biased AWD, near 50/50 weight dist. 340hp/369tq.
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supafamous (01-21-2023)
01-20-2023, 06:35 PM
#73
Thanks for sharing, I hope that guy doesn't get into trouble with the way he leaked the info. Now this became public, I really think the RDX-S SpaceBot talked about is ADX-S.
Regarding 4G, initially I thought 4G would be 3G EVO, but the moment I saw the new CRV, I realized that 4G is on a new platform. The CRV engine bay is comically large, as if one can fit two 1.5T inside. This only means one thing - the front structure was designed to house a larger engine and the space-eating top mount from the double A suspension.
Regarding 4G, initially I thought 4G would be 3G EVO, but the moment I saw the new CRV, I realized that 4G is on a new platform. The CRV engine bay is comically large, as if one can fit two 1.5T inside. This only means one thing - the front structure was designed to house a larger engine and the space-eating top mount from the double A suspension.
01-20-2023, 06:42 PM
#74
My RAV4 Prime engine bay was no larger than the 2019 gas burner version. Same for literally every other vehicle that came out as gas burner and then had a legit EV addition.
01-20-2023, 07:42 PM
#75
If the CX90 looks like the CX70 though, it's gonna be a pass for me. I'm personally not a huge fan of the design of the CX70.
01-21-2023, 07:43 AM
#76
The CX70 hasn't been released yet. I'm guessing you mean the CX60 Mazda launched for other markets last year? Yeah, it's a little bland, but it's not "LOOK-AT-ME" bold, either, and that's a good thing. North America's 3-row CX90 will be launched next, followed by the 2-row CX70 sometime after. There are a lot of assumptions about the CX70's styling, but they're just that ... assumptions.
01-21-2023, 07:45 PM
#77
The CX70 hasn't been released yet. I'm guessing you mean the CX60 Mazda launched for other markets last year? Yeah, it's a little bland, but it's not "LOOK-AT-ME" bold, either, and that's a good thing. North America's 3-row CX90 will be launched next, followed by the 2-row CX70 sometime after. There are a lot of assumptions about the CX70's styling, but they're just that ... assumptions.
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01-24-2023, 02:46 PM
#78
CX70 gets the same 340/369 i6, and will be a wider CX60 with some style variation. It's going to be an excellent SQ5 contender, I think, for less, and in a much more reliable platform.
01-25-2023, 11:49 AM
#79
First semi-official confirmation of RDX-S, launching next year! It's only Jan 2023 and I am already looking forward to 2024!
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/25/2...les-online-zdx
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/25/2...les-online-zdx
01-25-2023, 11:53 AM
#80
First semi-official confirmation of RDX-S, launching next year! It's only Jan 2023 and I am already looking forward to 2024!
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/25/2...les-online-zdx
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/25/2...les-online-zdx
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sonyfever (01-25-2023)