2019 Acura RDX vs. Infiniti QX50

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Old 10-01-2018, 05:33 PM
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I just put a deposit on a Black/Black A-Spec SH-AWD. I was driving an Infiniti QX60 with CVT that got wrecked. The 3-row soccer mom one. I tried very hard to like the QX50 and was interested had no problems with the CVT found it fun to drive.
  • Two screen setup is awful & no CarPlay/Android Auto
  • The backseat is awful and the cargo space.
  • It felt a lot smaller to me.
  • The price it seemed overall more expensive and hard to get what you wanted
Old 10-10-2018, 04:23 PM
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Car & Driver has a report on their $59K QX50 https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ty-maintenance

Months in Fleet: 3 months Current Mileage: 5113 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 21 mpg
Fuel Tank Size 16.0 gal Observed Fuel Range: 330 miles

Better fuel mileage was the only advantage I saw when checking out the Infiniti. I'm very glad we are getting 23.8 mpg in our RDX.
Old 10-10-2018, 04:33 PM
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Sixty thousand for that?

I don’t care how fancy the leather is, that is no sixty thousand dollar car.
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Lol this is the truth. SH-AWD is up there with Quattro and X-Drive. Except it actually works better in icy conditions than either of those systems which tend to send too much power to the rear on icy surfaces causing the car to slide sideways due to open diffs. But the new gen Quattro is basically glorified FWD anyways so SH-AWD is the best system on the market IMO.
Quattro Ultra behaves similar to SH-AWD with more efficiency. Also, let's be careful: there are three versions of Quattro: 1) The Haldex system in the A3 and smaller 2) the Torsen system seem on most of the models) 3) The ultra model that increases efficiency by disconnecting the rears when not in use.

But I have yet to see a review by anyone who can differentiate between 2 and 3.

On topic: I would expect SH-AWD and Quattro to be better than the AWD versions from manufacturers that make RWD cars. There's just no driveability reason to put AWD on a car built for RWD.

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Old 10-11-2018, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Quattro Ultra behaves similar to SH-AWD with more efficiency. Also, let's be careful: there are three versions of Quattro: 1) The Haldex system in the A3 and smaller 2) the Torsen system seem on most of the models) 3) The ultra model that increases efficiency by disconnecting the rears when not in use.

But I have yet to see a review by anyone who can differentiate between 2 and 3.

On topic: I would expect SH-AWD and Quattro to be better than the AWD versions from manufacturers that make RWD cars. There's just no driveability reason to put AWD on a car built for RWD.
You are so correct about differentiating between the 3 quattro systems. For all intents and purposes I was referring to quattro (2) with the torsen system when I was saying it sends too much power to the rear causing the rear to slide out sideways. I was referring to quattro 1 and 3 when calling it glorified FWD. Those 2 systems send all the power to the front until slip is detected which isn't AWD to me.

The only quattro system that truly behaves like SH-AWD are the ones found on S models (SQ5, S7, S5...etc) because they have the sport rear differential which can torque vector. Quattro ultra and the haldex based systems may torque vector using brakes but we know that's nothing like a true torque vectoring system.

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Motor Trend seems less than thrilled with their $60K QX50 https://www.motortrend.com/cars/infi...date-1-review/

In his notes, road test editor Chris Walton wrote said it felt "pretty lazy off the line" even though he "could not detect any variable-ness in the power delivery." He also took issue with the CVT faking shifts in a way that slowed him down. "It should simply peg the redline for max acceleration," he wrote.

And while the QX50 was never meant to be a drag racer, the powertrain also feels poorly suited to daily driving. Specifically, it never quite feels like the transmission and the engine are on the same page. Switching to sport mode helps, but acceleration is still far from linear.

Any time I need to get going quickly, I have to wait while the computers argue over how to respond to the depressed accelerator pedal. Part of the problem may be that sport mode is still too eco-focused, but it goes further than that. With a variable-compression engine paired to a continuously variable transmission, Infiniti may have developed a powertrain that's just too variable.
And although I am mildlydisappointed in my own fuel economy, it is better than this
If I was getting excellent gas mileage, there's a chance the trade-off could be worth it. So far, though, that hasn't been the case. Even though the EPA rated the QX50 at 24/30/26 mpg city/highway/combined, the fuel log shows I've averaged a disappointing 18.7 mpg. My final verdict is still another 10 months away, but at least for now, consider me a CVT skeptic.
. My own average ove ~2300 miles is 22 mpg on regular with all suburban driving and no road trips. (At 3K I plan to switch to premium and see if it is better.)

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Old 10-20-2018, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Motor Trend seems less than thrilled with their $60K QX50 https://www.motortrend.com/cars/infi...date-1-review/



And although I am mildlydisappointed in my own fuel economy, it is better than this . My own average ove ~2300 miles is 22 mpg on regular with all suburban driving and no road trips. (At 3K I plan to switch to premium and see if it is better.)
How sad, they did all that work only to end up with a shitty car with shitty drivability and fuel economy. Should have just kept the 7AT and 3.7l. I especially like how they said it has too much variability, something I've mentioned on here a few times now. Seems like a whole mess of a system really.
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A new review for the QX50

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/11...i-qx50-review/

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Alex wasn't impressed by QX50. He clearly name the RDX is the winner

RDX got an amazing feedback this year. Acura better works on some minor issues and create the same magic with the next generations TLX and MDX.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Alex wasn't impressed by QX50. He clearly name the RDX is the winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxoVD801h7g

RDX got an amazing feedback this year. Acura better works on some minor issues and create the same magic with the next generations TLX and MDX.
Oooohhh was hoping he would do a review so thanks for sharing! I've seen a couple other reviews and the consensus seems to be that it looks nice, has a very good quality interior, drives ok, but has an infotainment setup from the stone age.
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Oooohhh was hoping he would do a review so thanks for sharing! I've seen a couple other reviews and the consensus seems to be that it looks nice, has a very good quality interior, drives ok, but has an infotainment setup from the stone age.
Anytime!

Honestly, I feel like Infiniti tried to hard to make the inside luxurious but it turned out to be a Xmas tree. Way too many colours and different use of material.
Anyway, I will never pay $50K-$60K for a CVT transmission and a brand new engine.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Anytime!

Honestly, I feel like Infiniti tried to hard to make the inside luxurious but it turned out to be a Xmas tree. Way too many colours and different use of material.
Anyway, I will never pay $50K-$60K for a CVT transmission and a brand new engine.
I agree I am not a fan of the multiple colors and materials and textures. It seems incredibly busy. I honestly would never touch one of these either. That new engine is scary and CVT's simply do not last. I've personally had problems with CVT's in the past and so have many friends and family. Will not do that again.
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Redline (Sofyan) ranked the QX50 is one of the worst vehicles of the year.
On that note, RDX was on his hourable mention list

Infiniti tried hard but failed! Their QX30 sunk like titanic. But QX50 will boost their sales number as the old QX50 was almost non existent.
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Infiniti just doesn't do many things well anymore.
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Infiniti is confused... that’s all!
Acura was the same but I think they understood the issue and they are trying to fix it as we see the new RDX is a huge success.

Let’s hope in 2019 we see the new redesigned TLX and MDX.
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Honestly, I'd be glad to drive even Acuras worst creations. The 4G TL and ZDX may look anomalous, but I find they're aging well and they still have a Honda made tranny and J series V6. I don't care, it was never that bad, it just didn't really have the same effect as previous models.


Now Infiniti on the other hand, putting CVTs in multiple models... No, just no....


I do love how they switched the Q50s steering back to HPS, atleast they had the balls to do that.


Hondacura on the other hand can pretty much nail EPS. Look at the S2K!

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