Acura's Hybrid Era over?
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Acura's Hybrid Era over?
The evidence is mounting that Acura's Hybrid Era is over. The new TLX did not offer a Sport Hybrid and instead made the Type S an ICE. The new MDX did the same. And now Acura has announced the NSX Sport Hybrid will end with the 2022 Model Type S. I think Acura will pivot to EV. What do you think?
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pilozm (08-09-2021)
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I've always heard hybrids and plug-in hybrids are just a place holder until we can go BEV down the road. The lower gas prices, pandemic, cost, Americans don't like/understand hybrids/EVs, and reluctance from the last administration to commit to EVs put most manufactures behind. Honda/Acura is partnering with GM with the Ultium battery pack (same being used in the electric Hummer). They are expecting a 150,000 to 200,000 miles of battery service life, faster charging, and up to 400 mile range with max configuration (double stacked and connected in parallel).
I love my hybrid and was really hoping Acura would up their hybrid game and provide a plug-in MDX option. My biggest issue is living in the southwest with extreme heat, 70-80 mph hwy speeds with 2-4 hrs between major town gas stops, and elevations between 4000-11,000 feet. I can drive to San Antonio from ABQ in around 11 hrs. It would probably take me 14-30 hours in a long range Tesla depending on the type of charger I can find. Not an issue in my hybrid MDX/RLX with A/C on max and ELS/Krell volume on 20.
I love my hybrid and was really hoping Acura would up their hybrid game and provide a plug-in MDX option. My biggest issue is living in the southwest with extreme heat, 70-80 mph hwy speeds with 2-4 hrs between major town gas stops, and elevations between 4000-11,000 feet. I can drive to San Antonio from ABQ in around 11 hrs. It would probably take me 14-30 hours in a long range Tesla depending on the type of charger I can find. Not an issue in my hybrid MDX/RLX with A/C on max and ELS/Krell volume on 20.
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The evidence is mounting that Acura's Hybrid Era is over. The new TLX did not offer a Sport Hybrid and instead made the Type S an ICE. The new MDX did the same. And now Acura has announced the NSX Sport Hybrid will end with the 2022 Model Type S. I think Acura will pivot to EV. What do you think?
Acura is far from an all electric car, so their decision is even harder to comprehend.
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pilozm (08-09-2021)
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Looking at the sales of electric hybrids if Acura stays blind then i'll be trading in my Mdx Hyrbid in the next 2-3 years for a better sporty solution. I travel 60 miles a day and if Acura offers 3rd tier products im out for good.
-Dad
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pilozm (08-09-2021)
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I can see a future of BEVs that might be possible of:
- being able to fast charge at home using plug and/or induction with home solar and home whole house battery storage
- induction charging option along with plug in at home, work, shopping, and travel
- driver-less EVs with a feature you can set to draft behind other EVs vehicles on the hwy (must be computer control, no manual drafting)
- mobile EV recharge drive-less vehicles on the hwy. Computer controlled and you connect and recharge are hwy speeds like the Air force does with tankers and jets
- having a 3rd EV induction lanes on the hwy to recharge at hwy speeds with induction (same as meglev trains only activating the tracks section above the train)
- option to dial in the power or range we want (500 hp for towing or down to 150 hp for range)
- maybe even a change back to the body on frame EV powertrain+battery pack and you can put a sedan, sports car, convertible, truck, or mini van on top. You can rent an EV minivan top for vacation and switch back to your sedan when you get back.
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bmoua15 (08-05-2021)
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I didn't get rid of the MDX, yet. But I did get rid of my hybrid RLX for a Lincoln Aviator Grand Touring. Chose it over the Volvo. It is a PHEV, albeit with limited full electric range. It has every bell, whistle, and safety feature I wanted, with torque for towing, and it flies. My only concern in the purchase was the reliability. Time will answer that question. I will keep my eye out for what Acura does going forward. Was certainly very disappointed they canned the MDX and RLX hybrids. And now the NSX. Again, time will tell.
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The biggest problem with EV is not the vehicles, its the infastructure necessary to charge all these cars. As it stands today our power grid does not have enough capacity so supply power to all the homes, especially in places like CA. How do our "smart" leaders think we will get the power for more EVs?
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The biggest problem with EV is not the vehicles, its the infastructure necessary to charge all these cars. As it stands today our power grid does not have enough capacity so supply power to all the homes, especially in places like CA. How do our "smart" leaders think we will get the power for more EVs?
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Other than charging infrastructure, the EV battery technology needs to become more mature as well.
Hopefully some magic battery compound will be developed that allows a super-fast 15-30 mins charge cycle from empty to full, using just regular (not the scarce Supercharger) charging stations, and this will alleviate the endless demand for more charging stations.
Hopefully some magic battery compound will be developed that allows a super-fast 15-30 mins charge cycle from empty to full, using just regular (not the scarce Supercharger) charging stations, and this will alleviate the endless demand for more charging stations.
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