Has anyone used these H&R spacers? Going to put some 5mm on the back of the 09 TSX and wanted to see what the general consensus is on these.

http://store.allsprings.com/shared/S...rce=googlebase

If not, can you recommend a good 5mm spacer. Thanks for any feedback.

 

Our stock 17" rims and even my 19" Rage wheels has an offset of ET55 which is too tucked in for my taste, which is why I have Ichiba Version II 15mm spacers installed on my car. They are two pieces design with pressed studs so you can bolt-on without any swap studs hassles and they are also hubcentric so it fits perfectly.

That said, H&R spacers are very well made (strong and durable), they are made in Germany and passed the German TUV certification (good for the autobahn) so you can't go wrong there.

BTW, why only 5mm, I think your HFP wheels also have an offset of ET55.

 

Thanks bro for the feedback. I was told 5mm should do the trick, plus I am trying to improve the offset without having to make any major changes to the car. I did notice you said it was easy to install the 15mm... do you have a link to any posts you have done with some before and after pics of the spacers? I guess I can do a search Thanks again for your feedback.

 

Ordered my Ichiba spacers today. Got 5mm for the front and going with 10mm in the back. I will post pics next week once I get them installed.

 

nice scooter, looking forward for the pics

 

Are you running 19 inch HFP wheels? You are going to be running 15mm rear and 5 mm front? Be careful as the fronts spacers are not hubcentric. DO the 5mm spacers use a hub centering piece?

 

Both the 5mm and 10mm spacer sets are hubcentric. Here are the 5mm spacers I got.

http://www.optionsauto.com/prodinfo....r=ICH-AC-50605

 

Those font look hub centric. They don't have a lip for your rim to rest on.

 

Im not an expert, but I believe these are hubcentric mainly because they are only 5mm, so they still use the stock hub, and they are indented around the inner ring. Hopefully I am not too far off base, like I said, I am only going off assumption and the fact that Ichiba lists them as Hubcentric on the product page.

http://www.ichibausa.com/5mmalwhsp.html

 

Scooter, our centre bore is 64.1mm therefore you are correct... Those spacers are hubcentric to our car.

 

Thanks bro for confirming that and also for convincing me to go with a little larger spacer for the back. Cant wait to get them installed.

 

You are welcome scooter, but remember, since you are buying 5 and 10mm spacers, and not the 15/20/25mm ones, they are not the Version II which are easier to install. But the Version I is not exactly rocket science either, just takes a bit more time as you may need to mount the longer studs yourself.

 

so are you saying that the 5mm spacer has a hub built into it for your wheel to fit on? I do not believe they do. I think the 5mm spacer rests on the hub, but does not have a hub built into it for the rim to rest on. I may be wrong, but the one in the pics would cover your hub and give you rim nothing but the lugs to rest on.

 

That may be a generic picture as this one shows a lip:

http://www.revlinecustoms.com/prodde...50605&cat=3246

I think the longer studs will be necessary, and that does entail a fair degree of messing around.

 

^You may be able to get away with the original stud for 5mm spacers, but 10mm ones definitely require removal of the original studs and replace with the longer ones supplied by Ichiba.

That's one of the main reason I went with the 15mm Version II ones, direct bolt-on application. Managed to put one set on in 20 minutes. The Version I ones may require the removal of the rotor in order to punch out the OEM studs and replace them with the longer ones. Like Silver said, it will involve a bit more work.

BTW, Silver, I am happy to report that after 8 months and 10K miles of driving on those 15mm spacers, they handle beautifully and present no problem whatsoever.

 

Are you running them on all 4 corners or just in the rear? What size spacer would you need to run to make the rear appear even with the front. I want to run some 19x8 HFP wheels with 245/40/19s and want it to sit as flush as possible without rubbing, EVER!!!! I know these wheels are 55mm offset and I know the RJ wheels are 32mm and 48mm when they try to make it look even, but to me it looks a little to aggresive in the front to be safe.

 

Yes I am running them on all 4 corners. Just use a tape measure, for the rear I think you can put a 20mm on without any problem. Both the stock 17" and the 19" Rage rims has an offset of ET55, 15mm spacers did the trick for me. In the end, it's up to you how much you want your wheels to stick out.

Here's a quick photo with the 15mm spacers for your reference:

 

So what would you need to make the rear look even with the front 10mm or 15mm more than the front?
What size tires are you on? They look like a pretty low profile. I plan on running 245/40/19 or 235/40/19.

Truth of the matter is I was hoping that 15mm was the magic number because that would mean all I had to do was buy the version 2 Ichiba spacers, bolt them on the rear and be done with it. I have a feeling though that the magic number is 10mm and that means I would have to do a lot more labor to install the new lug nuts since they do not make a bolt on spacer that narrow.

 

Would a 19x8.5 wheel with 45mm of offset and 245/40/19 tires work or would it rub and look too aggressive. I wanna keep it clean.

 

To be honest, from what I hear its not that bad to install the version 1 spacers. Now, that being said I am having a guy here at my work do it because he is a pro at it, but he said it shouldnt be that bad. I will report back once I install them today or tomorrow. He also said I should be fine with the stock studs on the front, but I will also report back on that. I went with 5mm on the front because the rims already sit pretty flush and I dont want them to rub. The back is another story, so I hope that 10mm will do the trick. Pics will be up once installed.

 

your tires look pretty skinny. Those aren't 245s are they. They look like 235/35 not 245/40.

I am trying to figure out if a 19x8.5 wheel with +55mm offset will fit nicely, no problems with rubbing with a 245/40/19 tire.

Please Advise if you know.

 

Can't wait to see the pictures Scooter.

Your HFP rims are 19 x 8 ET55, so it sits 6mm further out than stock. Adding a 10mm spacers in the rear will push it out 16mm compare to stock which should look like mine which is 19 x 7.5 ET55 with 15mm spacers.

sincityTSX, as mentioned before, the position on your rim depends on the width and offset of the wheel. So, your example 19 x 8.5 ET55 will result in the rim extended out by 13mm compare to stock. Put a 5mm spacers and it goes out to 18mm so on and so forth. Get yourself a tape measure and ruler to see how far out you want your rim extend out compare to stock.

 

So then 19x8.5 with ET45 would most likely stick out too far because it would be like 23mm further out than stock, not to mention the bigger tires I plan on running as well, DAMN.
Well hurry and put those spacers on the HFP wheels because that is my second option since I know that will work.

 

Im running Toyo Proxes 245/35/19

Spacer's didnt come in today so I will have to do the install tomorrow.

 

^OK Scooter, post pics when they are done.

sincity, you are correct in your assumption, 19 x8.5 ET 45 will extend the wheel 23mm further out than stock.

 

It's important to remember when working out tyre/wheel fitments that the offset of the wheel simply determines where the inside and outside faces of your chosen tyre will sit in relation to the hub mounting face.

The actual width of the rim doesn't matter too much as a 245 tyre will always be 20mm wider than a 225 tyre, regardless of the rim width (assuming they are both fitted to rim widths within the manufacturer's recommendations). A mounted 245 tyre doesn't measure an extra 12mm in width just because the rim width is increased by 1/2". And a 245 tyre will still measure 245, regardless of the rim width (within the limits just mentioned) so there's no need to worry about the actual width of the wheel.

The offset figure should be chosen to position the sidewalls of the tyre and not the wheel itself.

It's wise to decide on a tyre manufacturer and model before trying to see what will fit as the dimensions of the same nominally sized tyre can vary considerably between manufacturers.

 

As usual, Silver you are correct. Tyre size vary between manufacturers even among factories.

 

That's not completely accurate. If your stock tyre is 225 on a 7.5J/ET55 rim, then changing to a 245 tyre on an 8.5J/ET45 rim will move the sidewall out by 20mm.

This is because you are adding a total of 20mm to the tyre width (10mm on the inside & 10mm on the outside), regardless of rim width. The 45 offset will then add a further 10mm to this dimension, thereby positioning your new sidewall 20mm out from your old one.

Adding 5mm spacers to stock 225 tyres & 7.5J/ET55 rims will replicate the 18" factory set-up (235s on 8J/ET55s) as these protrude by an additional 5mm.

 

Glad to hear it

The rears on your car sit really well with that size spacer. I was a bit apprehensive when you went for 15mm front spacers. Being FWD, the rears just trail whilst the fronts are more critical as they do all the work. But it all seems to have worked out and I'm sure you'd have identified any adverse issues after that sort of mileage.

 

Quick question on that Silver. According to the wheel offset calculator, an 8.5J/ET45 rim will extend the position of the outside edge of the wheel by 23mm, in addition to the 10mm increase to 245 from 225 tyre, would the new sidewall be 33mm out from the stock one.

 

Thanks Silver, no adverse effect at all with spacers in the front, and dare I say, it feels a bit more stable as the front track is widen (it may be all in my head though).

 

Yes, but the 8.5 inch wheel is a full inch larger, which is about 12.5mm on the outside and inside. So with having a wider rim it may not affect the tire width that much, but it does affect where the outside of the wheel will sit in the wheel well.

 

No, is the short answer. The calculator is flawed and here's why:

Measure the width of a tyre when it's not mounted on a rim. A 245, for instance, will measure more or less 245mm across the sidewalls. The tyre manufacturer's data will indicate the width of rim used when defining the tyre's mounted width. In the case of a 245 tyre, the mounted width of 245mm will usually be stated as fitted to an 8.5J rim. If you mount this size tyre on any width less than 8.5J, it will still measure 245mm across the sidewalls because that's how the carcass is constructed. If you mount it on a rim width much over 8.5J then it will stretch the sidewalls out, so the mounted width will increase slightly. This is a finite increase as there comes a point where the tyre simply can't stretch any more.

Simply, a 245 tyre mounted on an 8.5J rim will have an overall width of 245mm across the sidewalls. It will also have the same width when mounted to a 7.5J rim, for instance.

If you think of the wheel/tyre package as an entirety, then any change to the wheel offset will simply shift the inner and outer sidewalls in relation to the mounting surface (the hub), regradless of the rim width.

Therefore, the outer sidewall of a 245 tyre on an 8.5J/ET55 rim will protrude by 70mm from the hub (half of 245mm, less 55mm). Mount this tyre on a 7.5J/ET55 rim and it will also protrude by 70mm for the reasons stated, even though the outer edge of the 7.5J rim itself protrudes by 1/2" less than than the 8.5J.

An increase in rim width is not added to an increase in tyre width.

I hope I've been clear as it's not easy to explain. However, once you've grasped the concept it's easy to work out offsets for yourself.

 

No, it doesn't work that way. See above reply to TECH.

 

Sorry Tech, I didn't really answer the question directly. The outer sidewall of a 245 tyre on an 8.5J/ET45 wheel will be 20mm further out when compared to a 225 on a 7.5J/ET55 rim. The red herring here is the change in rim width.

(245mm minus 225mm = 10mm)
(ET55 minus ET45 = 10mm)
(10mm + 10mm = 20mm)

 

you guys are confusing me

 

Silver,

You're HFP wheels with +55 offset and 10mm rear spacers should resemble the flushness of the wheels on my car since mine are +48 with 3mm spacers.

 

Yes, exactly right ... providing the tyre sizes are the same.

 

Ummm.....do you have a pic of your car?

 

These are the best pics showing the offset: