Just curious if this is what happens to anyone else who has a manual. Say your driving in the rain, and you stop at an intersection. You start to go and realize someone is coming rather fast from your right, you step on the gas, the car starts to go, but then, the wheels start to slip, the traction control kicks in, and the system completely shuts down the throttle. It doesn't do like the Auto Versions I've driven where it seems to claw for traction and basically go as fast as it can possibly go given it's situation.

Instead, it literally feels like if you were to, on dry ground, floor it and then completely lift your foot off the pedal. IT's actually scary because the harder you push on the pedal, NOTHING happens, it just continues SLOWLY across the intersection. Is this something that happens to other Manual drivers or is something up with my car?

 

The earlier traction control systems are really intrusive. Thats the same thing that happens in the 04TL 6mt in snow. It cuts ignition to the point of the car stalling. I've had to turn of VSA really quick to prevent that from happening. All you can do it either feather the throttle to prevent VSA from kicking in and allow the car to accelerate or turn VSA off before you think you're going to have a problem.

Thats just my solution though. I've had to stop midway on a hill to turn off the VSA and then slowly feather the throttle to let the car figure it out.

Also with the Torsen you don't get a true LSD so the wheels slip pretty bad, but when you apply steering angle it distributes the power between both the wheels. It takes knowing the system to be able to take advantage of its benefits. So gradually accelerating through a corner would work great on our cars.

 

you just feather the gas pedal and don't dump the clutch to cause excess wheelspin, especially if it is raining.

my 6mt has never cut into my throttle sharply enough to do what you described

 

Mine literally is like you went from full throttle to completely closed. Just seems like a safety concern given that it doesn't recover from this fully closed throttle all the way across the intersection. It's like having no acceleration at all. And it lasts for a while, I've duplicated it with my buddy in the car and he has a 2011 Civic Si and his car doesn't behave that way at all, might be the LSD helping but even still, seems like the TSX is really dangerous.

 

I'm not trying to sound like a dick

but if you are full throttle and breaking traction, traction control is going to respond in kind to reduce the excess wheelspin even if that includes cutting out the throttle for a short time period to allow the regaining of traction, the system isn't bulletproof though. That's just my perspective though on why it'd be doing that to you

or it's just broken? lol

 

The thing is I have had a loaner TSX in auto and 4 cylinder and it doesn't do what my car does at all, the auto basically claws it's way to going faster, the 6-MT just seems to be like OH it's slippery, turn off all power and good luck driver if you are are trying to get out of the way of anything. It's like night and day driving the auto vs the manual.

 

well the automatic transmission has a computer in it too, the traction control system knows this along with the parameters of the transmission and can predict outcomes better as opposed to manual where it all depends on the driver.

 

my start-up process:

1.) press clutch
2.) turn key
3.) press and hold VSA button

It's a lower powered, FWD sedan and I only use nice season-specific tires. I can imagine very few scenarios where I would want the VSA on as I have also experienced the sharp throttle cut-off, especially when accelerating out of a turn or on uneven surfaces (dry roads in both cases) where loss of control is a nonfactor.

 

I can 2nd that it feels dangerous. I've had a few times where I tried to pull out quick, there was a little wheel spin and it just bogged down the whole engine, now I'm crawling with cars coming at me fast.

I've learned to just turn the VSA off

 

Happens to me all the time. I hate how the throttle will completely cut off. Its the worst feeling especially when your trying to avoid getting hit

 

Exactly it can't be right that that's the way it responds. The autos do everything they can to keep going faster. The manual trans seems to want to kill us.