epical

hey everyone ... new to the forum. I have been getting some terrible break squealing when I am pressing the brake pedal down about 1/3 of the way. Any quick solution for this problem? I don't really notice it with the windows up cuz the noise isolation is pretty good on the tsx. Thanks for ur help.

p.s. i have a 2nd gen tsx with 24k km.

LBTSX09

i have the same problem and i recently went to the dealership for a service run and i asked them to check my breaks. The guy said that many of the Tsx's have this problem and that Acura is making a solution for the breaks. hope this helps.

ldjwg

Acura is trying to say this is normal as of now. According to my dealer they are investigating the problem, because Honda Accord is having the same or worst issue. Acura does not want to replace the brakes and also watch out for your rear pads, you wont get more than 12k off them. Another normal characteristic of the TSX according to Acura

Arcticcl9

I have the same problem with noisy brakes. I'm still hesitant to bring my squeaky brakes to the dealer to "fix" unless they replace the parts. Resurfacing the rotors, IMHO, isn't a fix and only decreases the life of the rotors and/or cause warping in the future.

Also, yes, I am not happy that they still make the rear brake pads out of thin cardboard..this was the same problem with the first gen TSX.

JOBNUMBER

I had this issue on my RSX, my EVO and now my TSX. I've kinda just gotten used to it.

I've noticed that if I start out my drive with a slow roll into a quick hard brake before getting anywhere, the squealing isn't as bad the rest of the drive.

HeavyDuty

You mean the pad backing is made from masonite or something like it? Seriously?

lilct24

any updates on this issue? i've brought my car into the dealership twice for squeaky brakes, and same results everytime... "the tech couldn't find anything wrong with your brakes."

Arcticcl9

No updates from me, unless there is a TSB or some sort to replace the rotors or other brake parts outright that others would know about. Turning the rotors might be a fix, but it also reduces the life of that component, so I don't bother taking it to the dealer for this issue.

I justify the noise this way, since sound is a type of energy, i think that I'm getting less kinetic energy converted to heat energy. If there was no sound, all the kinetic energy will be converted to heat energy.

patcracks

yea my breaks have been squealing for a few weeks....I had no pads left on my rear they cut into my rotors so I had to get new rotors..cost 340 for new rear pads + rotors..they said my front pads had plenty of beef...strange. My car has 21k miles.

mcabutti

My solution was to contact the Tirerack (tirerack.com) and buy an aftermarket set of pads that they recommended. I think I spent about $60.00. No more squeak!

Arcticcl9

What brand/type were the brake pads you got? What are you thoughts on your new brakes, in terms on braking feel and braking power?

mcabutti

I believe the ones that I have are Akebono Pro ACT. $51.00 for the front brake pads. However, you might want to contact the Tirerack at 1-888-541-1777 for their brake recommendations as well. They are a GREAT company with many knowledgeable reps. This was the best $51.00 I have spent on my TSX.

TSX1138

Same problem here after 20k miles. I took the car in and they replaced the pads and turned the rotors and told me they were working on an S/B for the brakes. They did not charge me labor because the wear was excessive and charged me only for the pads ($71). I still hear soem slight squeaking in the morning before they warm up though. Waiting on the the S/B as the initial nosie was bloody loud.

I would go back and request my money back. They should not have charged you. If they give you any lip I'd call the BBB and the State Attorney Generals office. My dealer here did not charge me. Your car is under warranty.

patcracks

I brought my car too my local mechanic not even my dealer....im an idiot...

TheGoodGuy

humm.. i wonder if acura will refund me on changing my brakes at 13K. I have 30K now on the car.

Rhetoric01

At 3500 miles I started experiencing the brake squealing problem. I reported it to the Acura dealership and they told me it was part of the new car breaking process. The squealing continued and they gave me the same answer at 8000 miles. I was so disapointed at the Acura dealership I ended up going to a different dealership. They resurfaced the rotor and installed new pads, which resolved the problem!

tsxuser

mine is 6800miles. my front brake begin to squeal around few weeks ago. I took it to dealer last week. they replaced my two front brake pad with on question asked. I ask them do not resurface my rotors becaue it was changed it due to virbration in around 2000 miles. (replaced under wananty). i tested drive two days now. no more squeal so far.

Robster65

Got my rear brake pads replaced yesterday at 16k miles - complimentary (this time) by the dealer. Dealer says that's normal for TSX rear brakes. Anyone know better after-market rear brakes for the TSX?

daleyboy

2009 tsx, 13k miles. The rear brakes started squealing at the beginning of Jan, right after state inspection which I had done at the dealer. I just had the chance today to bring it in for the brake noise. $235 later, and I have new brake pads in the rear. I don't know about everyone else here, but i have owned many cars in my time, many which were new, and I have NEVER gone through REAR(?) brakes so fast. I'm pissed. My lease is for 3 years, thats means I will likely need to replace the twice more, and likely the fronts too at some point. This is abnormal,and expensive. Tomorrow I am calling Acura client services at 1800-382-2238, and if I don't get satisfaction, I will file with Better Business Bureau and Ripoff.com. I like my Acura, this is actually my second one (the RSX before this I owned) and I planned on buying this one out at the end of the lease or lease another. I really like the Acura brand, but this may be a deal breaker.
SHAME ON YOU ACURA! THESE CARS SHOULD BE RE-CALLED FOR CRAPPY BRAKES!

HeavyDuty

That's a lot of money just for the rears to be replaced at the dealer.

Yesterday I ordered new front & rear rotors, front and rear pads with shipping to Florida was only $402 from Tim Poliniak at Ray Laks Acura in NY. Great guy and a sponsor here, I've been working with him and recommending him to others since the late 90's.

I'm not happy about having them replaced & rotors turned at 9,000 miles either, but the dealer paid for it the first time and I managed to get 20k out of the 2nd set.

So, unless one is ready to bone up for the Rotora's like on DerwoodEE's car, one has to accept Honda's don't have the best brakes & deal with that shortcoming however one sees fit.

Learn how to do your own brakes, it's really not that hard.

5thTo2nd

Honda just issued a TSB to address the brake pad issue (premature brake wear) on 08-09 Accords but I don't think there's anything for TSX's or TL's at this point. Apparently they've reformulated the brake compound for longer wear and the new pads have a distinct part # to differentiate from the old ones.

Maybe if enough people cry about it there will be something out for the TSX, similar to the pinging issue.

nine11c2

My dealer wanted 350 for the pads..

HeavyDuty

That is unacceptable, my friend. Call Tim Poliniak at the numbers listed below.

No, I don't work for them but I've purchased everything from A Spec body parts & wheels to J35 long blocks from him in the past.

When it comes to most businesses you have a choice of Price, Quality or Service. Pick two. Tim is one of those rare cases where you get all three.

(A premier Acurazine sponsor.)

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http://www.hondacuraworld.com
Phone number: -888-RAY-LAKS
100 Orchard Park Rd.
West Seneca, NY 14224

HeavyDuty

Edit: J35 *SHORT* blocks, not long blocks.

lilct24

So I dropped my car off this morning for the front brakes problem (metal scraping) and the advisor told me about the TSB on the front pads, and that this would be covered under warrenty.

Then he advised me that my rear brake pads are 90% shot. That being said, I thought to myself, just get it done... they are charging me $360 for the rear pads, resurface the rotors...

anything i can say to help bring down the price??

my car only has 25k miles

lightjak_tsx

my car has 22k miles.. i just had a service at the dealer i told them about my squeaking breaks... the technician told me.. it is still good
6mm on the front and 4mm on the back...oh, my can someone please explain to me in laymans term..

espdollar

Went in today to get my tires rotated and i asked them to check the brakes .They said that service bulletin 09-054 covered having my front rotors resurfaced and he was nice enough to cover my brake pads aswell. He checked the rear pads and said that they have a good amount of life left and are fine.

i just left paying for the rotation.

mybada

I had to replace rear brakes at 18k. I've never seen any FWD car that has rear brakes wearing down faster than the front ones. Even my EVO Brembo brakes last me more than 20k. I ended up paying $235 at the dealership just for rear brakes done.

HeavyDuty

There must be a helluva lot more than 80% front 20% rear bias on this car. Usually fronts go out twice before needing rears.

Lightjack, the measurement is the thickness of the pad they are giving you. There's a minimum thickness before replacement.

Arcticcl9

I had my technical service done on the squealing brakes today, front pads replaced. Now the brakes are smooth and quiet and brand-new feeling. They didn't check my rear brakes, so I don't think they are shot yet. I only have 10k miles on my car.

lilct24

where did you get it done?

i just got raped at my dealership $360 for the rear brake service. that included new pads and resurfacing the rotors.

mybada

Done at Tustin Acura in Socal.
They charge about $240 include tax per axle. Front brakes are $240 too.
So $480 for all four out the door. Not too bad for dealership price.

daleyboy

Well. I posted last week about my rear brakes.
I have filed complaints with the following, after trying to get satisfaction with the dealer and Acura Headquarters. Both were useless.

Better Business Bureau

New York State Department of Motor Vehicles Bureau of Consumer & Facility Services

NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

Federal Trade Commission; Bureau of consumer Protection

I hope some of you guys do the same or similar. For me, not only is this costly, but now I am concerned that the problem is with the brakes, this is also a safety concern.

lightjak_tsx

thanks heavyduty..

eg5

iTrader: (4)

inner pad tends to wear faster on the rear pads. found out some of the techs conduct a visual inspection of the out side pad, meaning the wheels arent removed to get a correct measurement(this means inspecting the inner and outter pad). lucky if you even get 14k out of them.
as for the front pads there are updated parts and procedures to solve the vibration while braking and noisey brakes

HeavyDuty

Doesn't surprise me a bit that a 'brake inspection' is nothing more than a glance at the outboard pads. After all, they always wear evenly, right?

I'm curious if the updated parts and installation thing or just a revised installation thing (improper caliper pin lube during initial assembly?) or different pad compound, or different caliper pin bushings or or or...

eg5

iTrader: (4)

not all pads wear evenly. sliders sticking, compromised pad compound etc can and will affect pad wear.the new rear pads come with a set of clips. which provide tension to " seperate" the contact surface and the rotor. until of course you depress the brake pedal.

HeavyDuty

I was being facitious about the wear, all that comes into play. I will be looking at my OE replacement pads on Tuesday when doing a f & r rotor & pad replacement.

TSXfreeko

I'm up in Canada and I just received a letter by mail entitled: Customer Satisfaction Campaign: Rear Brakes. It states that "certain driving habits or conditions in Canada" may cause the rear brake pads to wear prematurely, and if so they will be replaced under warranty.

If you paid anything previously for this issue, there is a mechanism in place to get a refund.

I don't know why the issue would be particular to Canada, but you guys down south with problems should probably mention the existence of the letter to your dealers.

HeavyDuty

I set out to replace all 4 pads & rotors this afternoon and didn't see anything different with the fronts, but did notice a revised/updated change/ install bulletin for the rear pads.

BTW the rear pads are the weakest looking material I've ever seen.

Anyway, the rear caliper revision dictates that the caliper pins reverse their position (top pin in bottom bore and vice versa) also, there's a spring clip that is supplied to be installed in the revised pads on the top of the pad backing where there's been a hole drilled to accept the spring clip.

If I remember correctly, the spring clip installs on the front of the caliper after you separate the caliper from the torque mount/caliper mount. This should help prevent drag, heat buildup, subsequent premature wear and warping.

I took pics to provide a step by step for those who may be interested, but ran out of daylight and have to finish the rears in the morning.

Oh, also, no f'ing wonder there's accelerated wear on the front or rear. There was barely enough pin lube on the fronts and rears combined to make a blob about the size of an english pea.