Squeaky brakes?
Squeaky brakes?
We have had sqeaky brakes since the first week we had it.. Took it to the dealer once around 3k and they said they couldn't find a problem - brake hard once in a while... Uh, sure..
Anyway, 9k now and they are really annoying. Anyone else run into this? I've never had a car sound like this, even after 30k on the pads..
Anyway, 9k now and they are really annoying. Anyone else run into this? I've never had a car sound like this, even after 30k on the pads..
Hondas seem to be known for crappy brakes, so this is nothing new. Check the 1st gen forum and you'll see that. You may want to start with replacing the pads with something aftermarket. I have Hawk Ceramics on my 1G.
You may be right IF I didn't already do that. I told the dealer that I had already tried those techniques but they claimed there was nothing they could do. Well now it is going back a 2nd time and I won't accept anything but new pads or I'll escalate it.
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I believe Honda has changed to a different pad material on the new models. If you do a search on driveaccord you will see a lot of people have been complaining about squeaks which are usually coming from the rear pads. Also the rear pads didn't last as long as I expected either, at 15k miles I had to replace them on my sister's 08 Accord. The factory also isn't putting enough grease on the caliper sliding bolts which caused uneven wear on the pads. I wouldn't be surprised if you have the same problem on the 09 TSX. Hawk hasn't released the pads yet for her car and it has been over a year now so you're going to need to be patient on this one.
The Altima is also plagued by this problem but Nissan is going to bat for the customer and replacing the calipers, rotors and pads, I guess they found the problem, Honda on the other hand has given us the standard BS that this is common. I've owned Hondas for the last 11 years which have been squeak free and yes maybe so because I work on them myself but this will be the last Honda we get if the Hawks don't fix the problem.
The Altima is also plagued by this problem but Nissan is going to bat for the customer and replacing the calipers, rotors and pads, I guess they found the problem, Honda on the other hand has given us the standard BS that this is common. I've owned Hondas for the last 11 years which have been squeak free and yes maybe so because I work on them myself but this will be the last Honda we get if the Hawks don't fix the problem.
I believe Honda has changed to a different pad material on the new models. If you do a search on driveaccord you will see a lot of people have been complaining about squeaks which are usually coming from the rear pads. Also the rear pads didn't last as long as I expected either, at 15k miles I had to replace them on my sister's 08 Accord. The factory also isn't putting enough grease on the caliper sliding bolts which caused uneven wear on the pads. I wouldn't be surprised if you have the same problem on the 09 TSX. Hawk hasn't released the pads yet for her car and it has been over a year now so you're going to need to be patient on this one.
The Altima is also plagued by this problem but Nissan is going to bat for the customer and replacing the calipers, rotors and pads, I guess they found the problem, Honda on the other hand has given us the standard BS that this is common. I've owned Hondas for the last 11 years which have been squeak free and yes maybe so because I work on them myself but this will be the last Honda we get if the Hawks don't fix the problem.
The Altima is also plagued by this problem but Nissan is going to bat for the customer and replacing the calipers, rotors and pads, I guess they found the problem, Honda on the other hand has given us the standard BS that this is common. I've owned Hondas for the last 11 years which have been squeak free and yes maybe so because I work on them myself but this will be the last Honda we get if the Hawks don't fix the problem.
Don't you think your response is a little too much for the problem? I understand if the car had a real problem, but noise from the brake pads shouldn't be a reason you sway away from Honda motors....
I just noticed a slight squeak in my 09 tsx, I only have 1100 miles, but from my experience with Acura with my TL, I am sure eventually they will be a service bulletin, and we will all get updated brake pads.
This is the first year run, I am happy all I have noticed is the brake noise issue.
Don't you think your response is a little too much for the problem? I understand if the car had a real problem, but noise from the brake pads shouldn't be a reason you sway away from Honda motors....
I just noticed a slight squeak in my 09 tsx, I only have 1100 miles, but from my experience with Acura with my TL, I am sure eventually they will be a service bulletin, and we will all get updated brake pads.
This is the first year run, I am happy all I have noticed is the brake noise issue.
I just noticed a slight squeak in my 09 tsx, I only have 1100 miles, but from my experience with Acura with my TL, I am sure eventually they will be a service bulletin, and we will all get updated brake pads.
This is the first year run, I am happy all I have noticed is the brake noise issue.
Now we have to spend double the price of OEM pads to get something that doesn't squeal.
Umm ok.....have you ever seen reliability specs of say a Mercedes or an Audi?
I think that Honda makes one of the most reliable cars period. You have to assume there will be some first model year problems, and the noise level of the brakes is beyond minor. I just don't see it as a big deal at all. Spending 25k on a car doesn't mean anything, 25k these days doesn't even get you much when talking car prices.
I had a 2004 TL 6spd (which came with the very expensive set of Brembo brakes/pads) I remember there was some noise and I got a free set of pads and they cut the rotors.......3 days later I had warped rotors, so I went back in, and they replaced the rotors, pads again...) According to your reasoning I should sway away, because the TL was closer to 37k.
But if you prefer to opt to another car in the future, by all means...I find it hard you will be satisfied with anything else out there.
I think that Honda makes one of the most reliable cars period. You have to assume there will be some first model year problems, and the noise level of the brakes is beyond minor. I just don't see it as a big deal at all. Spending 25k on a car doesn't mean anything, 25k these days doesn't even get you much when talking car prices.
I had a 2004 TL 6spd (which came with the very expensive set of Brembo brakes/pads) I remember there was some noise and I got a free set of pads and they cut the rotors.......3 days later I had warped rotors, so I went back in, and they replaced the rotors, pads again...) According to your reasoning I should sway away, because the TL was closer to 37k.
But if you prefer to opt to another car in the future, by all means...I find it hard you will be satisfied with anything else out there.
Then maybe you need to try different pads. It is hard to say what to try. Maybe toss on some Hawk HPS instead?
How is the braking performance?
Marcus
I'm almost certain this is an Acura/Honda issue.
Just like the now long list of other things wrong with the 09 TSX.
This post:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...08&postcount=8
seems to shed the best light or have the best guess.
I would bring this information to the dealer.
I would ask:
for more grease on the caliper sliding bolts (is that the pistons you're talking about?)
possibly a pad change.
but I doubt the pad change will help, they'll just put the same pads back on.
and I haven't heard much at all from the 1st gen peeps about squeaky brakes in
comparison at all.
it shouldn't matter if you brake late and hard or earlier and softer.
the brakes should not be squeaking, period.
my brakes have yet to squeak, and if they did, to the dealer the car would go.
and they would fix it so it doesn't squeak.
I paid $32k for my car, but that matters not one bit. I wouldn't drive any new
car with squeaking brakes on it, be it an Acura or anything else.
not acceptable.
just because Honda makes nice motors (or they used to, cough, cough the 09 TSX
engine pinging issue) doesn't mean they can treat their buyers like crap and refuse
to offer them a car with properly functioning brakes. They need to fix the problem.
Just like the now long list of other things wrong with the 09 TSX.
This post:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...08&postcount=8
seems to shed the best light or have the best guess.
I would bring this information to the dealer.
I would ask:
for more grease on the caliper sliding bolts (is that the pistons you're talking about?)
possibly a pad change.
but I doubt the pad change will help, they'll just put the same pads back on.
and I haven't heard much at all from the 1st gen peeps about squeaky brakes in
comparison at all.
it shouldn't matter if you brake late and hard or earlier and softer.
the brakes should not be squeaking, period.
my brakes have yet to squeak, and if they did, to the dealer the car would go.
and they would fix it so it doesn't squeak.
I paid $32k for my car, but that matters not one bit. I wouldn't drive any new
car with squeaking brakes on it, be it an Acura or anything else.
not acceptable.
just because Honda makes nice motors (or they used to, cough, cough the 09 TSX
engine pinging issue) doesn't mean they can treat their buyers like crap and refuse
to offer them a car with properly functioning brakes. They need to fix the problem.
Last edited by MMsTSX; Nov 11, 2008 at 01:08 AM.
My brakes have a little shudder after 6k miles. It's mildly annoying and I know it's a wear part so I don't expect them to replace them. Next time I'm in to the dealer, I'll ask if they can offer anything, but I won't bitch if they don't. I'm a little spoiled in that my last few cars had Brembo's, if nothing else on the front only, but my current other car has them front & rear.
I gotta agree with deadlock in that there's not a helluva lot out there that gives as much reliability, efficiency, handling and resale value like a H/A for the money. 25-30k doesn't buy much anymore.
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I had the same issue with squeaky breaks start at about 3000 miles on 09 TSX. I took it back to the dealer for the third time and told them I was enforcing the lemon law. They replaced the brakes and rotars for me and the issue has been resolved for now
I had the same problem with my 05 RSX Type S. The brakes often squeaked very loud when it is cold (ie first thing in morning) and when it warms up, the squeaking disappears. Now I drive an 09 TSX, which has the same issue with only 5K. I think this is an issue with the Honda brake pad material. I had over 70K in my RSX before I had to replace factory brakes, so I think Honda uses this material to make its brakes last longer.
I don't have squeaky brakes, they just feel weak. They seem to lack bite.
I drove a Honda Fit the other day, and the brakes felt the same. It must be the pads Honda are using.
Any replacement pads out yet?
I see Mugen have some, I might have to chase some up.....
I drove a Honda Fit the other day, and the brakes felt the same. It must be the pads Honda are using.
Any replacement pads out yet?
I see Mugen have some, I might have to chase some up.....
Mine sqeak as well. I'm going to go out and try this tomorrow. It worked on my other car which had brakes which sounded 100x's worse.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
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