View Poll Results: What Carbon fiber parts are you interested in?
Carbon Fiber hood
9
23.68%
Carbon Fiber Trunk
0
0%
Carbon Fiber hood and trunk
13
34.21%
Nah, not for me
16
42.11%
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Carbon fiber hood and trunk
10-05-2009, 06:41 PM
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Carbon fiber hood and trunk
Hey I got in touch with well I can't even find the email now but they're my friend on facebook. Its a company who makes custom Carbon fiber hoods and trunks and other minor alterations.
Well they offered to design a Carbon fiber hood and or trunk if we had enough pre orders.
Who all is interested in this?
Well they offered to design a Carbon fiber hood and or trunk if we had enough pre orders.
Who all is interested in this?
10-05-2009, 08:34 PM
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they'd need to become a vendor first, have them contact me if this is to go forward. 
10-06-2009, 11:33 AM
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I would be down for a CF hood in the future 
would it be OEM style or could he add like hood vents and stuff to it
would it be OEM style or could he add like hood vents and stuff to it
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10-08-2009, 10:29 PM
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10-08-2009, 10:35 PM
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You guys are lame if you want to cheapen the TSX with this crap. It's not even a performance car. If you want attention, have someone airbrush a giant vagina on the hood. I bet everyone will look then.
10-08-2009, 11:31 PM
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10-08-2009, 11:37 PM
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but putting a honda emblem, blackening out chrome, and putting 18 inch lighter performance wheels of random colors, and big flashy brake kits, and intakes and super chargers are acceptable ways to increase the value look of the vehicle?
10-08-2009, 11:44 PM
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Are you sure you wont consider the vagina? I know a guy...
10-09-2009, 08:09 AM
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your so gay. its not about cheapening the look of the car. Im sure most of us would paint it, I know that I would. The purpose of cf parts is for weight reduction. A lot of us plan on boosting the cars, and the added weight reduction would make the car ride even better.
so for us this is a great way to lighten up the car, but for you a giant penis on your hood would be great to pick up guys as you stroll throught he city
so for us this is a great way to lighten up the car, but for you a giant penis on your hood would be great to pick up guys as you stroll throught he city
10-09-2009, 08:31 AM
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Some of it you can work around by adjusting the body panels, the latch and even manipulate the hinges and header panel/radiator support but it takes time and a fair degree of skill. People don't know that and don't want to pay you 2-3 man/hours to make it look correct.
Life DiesYou guys are lame if you want to cheapen the TSX with this crap. It's not even a performance car. If you want attention, have someone airbrush a giant vagina on the hood. I bet everyone will look then.
No, it's not a stop light bruiser, but that's not the only measure of a car's performance.
As far as the CF stuff, it's a style, Life Dies, you can opt out and are free to state your opinion, but for the most part we're self monitoring here and being a troll isn't tolerated by any of us each and to the other. That was unnecessary, don't be a dick and don't lump everyone in the same category.
10-09-2009, 02:34 PM
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Lighten the vehicle? So if the vehicle weights 3500 pounds and you save 15, that means you have reduced the weight of the vehicle .004 percent. If you guys wanted to race, why not buy a fast car? I understand the whole concept of modifying, trust me. But trying to make the TSX a racey car is like taking a fat girl to Victoria's Secret. You might find a nice outfit for her but she's still fat.
10-09-2009, 03:45 PM
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Lighten the vehicle? So if the vehicle weights 3500 pounds and you save 15, that means you have reduced the weight of the vehicle .004 percent. If you guys wanted to race, why not buy a fast car? I understand the whole concept of modifying, trust me. But trying to make the TSX a racey car is like taking a fat girl to Victoria's Secret. You might find a nice outfit for her but she's still fat.
In your other thread, you're talking about upgrading the sound system in the TSX. A purist might argue that you're putting a booming system into a wimpy Japanese car and ask you why you're wasting your time with that, and I'm sure it wouldn't make you feel good.
We're all enthusiasts here and we're all enthusiastic about different things, no need to rain on other people's parades.
Disclaimer: I don't think the TSX is a wimpy Japanese car but I might understand if an American muscle lover said so.
10-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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Just wanted to know what you think a performance car is? I don' think anyone here thinks that there TSX is a sports car but I thought that most of the magazine's had the the TSX as a sports sedan. BTW my 2009 TSX now has over 300hp. I think that most people here would think that is a would make it a performance car.
10-10-2009, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTED09TSX 
BTW my 2009 TSX now has over 300hp. I think that most people here would think that is a would make it a performance car.
so sick
BTW my 2009 TSX now has over 300hp. I think that most people here would think that is a would make it a performance car.
so sick
10-11-2009, 10:31 AM
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Just wanted to know what you think a performance car is? I don' think anyone here thinks that there TSX is a sports car but I thought that most of the magazine's had the the TSX as a sports sedan. BTW my 2009 TSX now has over 300hp. I think that most people here would think that is a would make it a performance car.
10-13-2009, 12:13 PM
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I assure you, the mold won't be warped. You'd have to put a LOT of Catalyst on there to warp a hood. Besides, if enough people are interested we probably will outsource it to Seibon or ViS.
10-13-2009, 12:24 PM
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LOL. Polyester resin in a cf hood? My sentiments exactly. You guys are world class. $400 bucks gets you a layer of cf in a hood made of resin rich fiber glass with gelcoat to mask the porosity. The same techniques used to make surf boards back in 1960 being put on your 2010 TSX. Legendary.
A real CF hood would set you back some bucks. Let's stop pretending.
A real CF hood would set you back some bucks. Let's stop pretending.
10-13-2009, 04:58 PM
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LOL. Polyester resin in a cf hood? My sentiments exactly. You guys are world class. $400 bucks gets you a layer of cf in a hood made of resin rich fiber glass with gelcoat to mask the porosity. The same techniques used to make surf boards back in 1960 being put on your 2010 TSX. Legendary.
A real CF hood would set you back some bucks. Let's stop pretending.
A real CF hood would set you back some bucks. Let's stop pretending.
Seibon and ViS both spray gel coat, lay a few layers of carbon and then build up with pigmented fiberglass behind that. That is how almost every carbon part out there is made.
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10-13-2009, 05:46 PM
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I should have typed my remarks along my line of thinking, sorry. A stock hood used as a buck would not warp, correct. Almost invariably the variants of the original part created with roven and a layer of CF just under the gel coat would lend itself to scoops and vents and all that stuff. In that natural progression, a metal hood *probably* wouldn't be used as the buck, but rather a part produced would be the foundation, then the scoops, etc added to that, then it would be used as a buck.
The worst parts are the knock-offs using a Mugen, etc as the buck. Sorry for the confusion.
As far as the construction goes, Life Dies, yeah, that's what this stuff is, it's a style and although lighter than stock it's not full CF autoclaved like the real pieces. I.E. How much is the Mugen CF top for an S2000? Is it even vacuumed 100% carbon? I dunno.
The purpose of me bitching about stuff like this is that people buy it not realizing what it really is and how poorly *most* of it fits without a little work to fit it to the car. I don't have an axe to grind with the people who make it, but I'm sure that's how I'm coming across.
I've seen and installed VIS stuff. No thanks. I've seen the Seibon stuff and it's very nice. I've also seen, installed and fitted Fiber Images stuff too and it's the most consistent of the reasonably priced mid-level product (if they're still in business.) All of it needs work to fit, I don't care who makes it.
The worst parts are the knock-offs using a Mugen, etc as the buck. Sorry for the confusion.
As far as the construction goes, Life Dies, yeah, that's what this stuff is, it's a style and although lighter than stock it's not full CF autoclaved like the real pieces. I.E. How much is the Mugen CF top for an S2000? Is it even vacuumed 100% carbon? I dunno.
The purpose of me bitching about stuff like this is that people buy it not realizing what it really is and how poorly *most* of it fits without a little work to fit it to the car. I don't have an axe to grind with the people who make it, but I'm sure that's how I'm coming across.
I've seen and installed VIS stuff. No thanks. I've seen the Seibon stuff and it's very nice. I've also seen, installed and fitted Fiber Images stuff too and it's the most consistent of the reasonably priced mid-level product (if they're still in business.) All of it needs work to fit, I don't care who makes it.
10-13-2009, 05:59 PM
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I owned a composite manufactuing facility a while back. The material technology today is really good. Autoclaving is not required for quality pieces with some of the newer one-sided impregnated stuff. I've seen some really great stuff resently.
But the crap that you can buy for 400 bucks is garbage. You guys want to put on some piece made from a contact lay-up process? That's like having your TSX engineered from some guy with a hammer and an anvil. Such injustice for a well engineered machine.
So, don't get all ahead of yourself telling anyone you're doing it for the performance.
But the crap that you can buy for 400 bucks is garbage. You guys want to put on some piece made from a contact lay-up process? That's like having your TSX engineered from some guy with a hammer and an anvil. Such injustice for a well engineered machine.
So, don't get all ahead of yourself telling anyone you're doing it for the performance.
10-13-2009, 06:03 PM
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We don't use polyester resin in our one off parts unless the customer specifically asks for fiberglass in it. Generally speaking, we'd spray gel coat and lay 1-2 layers of ~4oz 2x2 and then build on that with ~16oz carbon.
Seibon and ViS both spray gel coat, lay a few layers of carbon and then build up with pigmented fiberglass behind that. That is how almost every carbon part out there is made.
Seibon and ViS both spray gel coat, lay a few layers of carbon and then build up with pigmented fiberglass behind that. That is how almost every carbon part out there is made.
What? Why did you use the word catalyst in the same sentence which described your manufacturing methodology? Do you have a clue what you're talking about? Seriously?
10-13-2009, 07:41 PM
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I owned a composite manufactuing facility a while back. The material technology today is really good. Autoclaving is not required for quality pieces with some of the newer one-sided impregnated stuff. I've seen some really great stuff resently.
But the crap that you can buy for 400 bucks is garbage. You guys want to put on some piece made from a contact lay-up process? That's like having your TSX engineered from some guy with a hammer and an anvil. Such injustice for a well engineered machine.
So, don't get all ahead of yourself telling anyone you're doing it for the performance.
But the crap that you can buy for 400 bucks is garbage. You guys want to put on some piece made from a contact lay-up process? That's like having your TSX engineered from some guy with a hammer and an anvil. Such injustice for a well engineered machine.
So, don't get all ahead of yourself telling anyone you're doing it for the performance.
I'm with ya, I think both of our points are that it's nothing more than a layer of carbon fiber with a chopped glass, roven or whatever substrate and it's not about performance. It's a styling theme and usually a poorly executed one save for the high end ($1500+) pieces this size.
LOL about the hammer & anvil, I usually use;
"Manufacturing tolerances strictly limited to +/- a hammer handle."
If someone just wants the look, so be it, to each their own, but it's way better for that person to know what they're getting into.
Can you imagine a CF deck lid made this way? Seriously? Like anyone would want their trunk to constantly be full of water & smell like a wet dog?
10-13-2009, 07:58 PM
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Just wanted to know what you think a performance car is? I don' think anyone here thinks that there TSX is a sports car but I thought that most of the magazine's had the the TSX as a sports sedan. BTW my 2009 TSX now has over 300hp. I think that most people here would think that is a would make it a performance car.
10-13-2009, 10:53 PM
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How does the impregnated stuff do with contours? I think I handled a sample at SEMA years ago, but wasn't' sure about how it would differ for the fabricator.
I'm with ya, I think both of our points are that it's nothing more than a layer of carbon fiber with a chopped glass, roven or whatever substrate and it's not about performance. It's a styling theme and usually a poorly executed one save for the high end ($1500+) pieces this size.
LOL about the hammer & anvil, I usually use;
"Manufacturing tolerances strictly limited to +/- a hammer handle."
If someone just wants the look, so be it, to each their own, but it's way better for that person to know what they're getting into.
Can you imagine a CF deck lid made this way? Seriously? Like anyone would want their trunk to constantly be full of water & smell like a wet dog?
I'm with ya, I think both of our points are that it's nothing more than a layer of carbon fiber with a chopped glass, roven or whatever substrate and it's not about performance. It's a styling theme and usually a poorly executed one save for the high end ($1500+) pieces this size.
LOL about the hammer & anvil, I usually use;
"Manufacturing tolerances strictly limited to +/- a hammer handle."
If someone just wants the look, so be it, to each their own, but it's way better for that person to know what they're getting into.
Can you imagine a CF deck lid made this way? Seriously? Like anyone would want their trunk to constantly be full of water & smell like a wet dog?
With a twill weave it works just fine particularly when you lay it on a bias. The parts I've seen recently have such low porocity content it's truly amazing. I used to manufacture parts using a pressurized resin infusion process that was proprietary that would turn parts with nearly zero porocity. Truly amazing pieces can be made without an autoclave these days.