TSX TECH-problem is the voice coils.

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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TSX TECH-problem is the voice coils.

I sent the service manager of Lynwood Acura a message concerning the problem with the speakers in the TSX Tech.

Here is what he had to say:

What's up Lou! Sorry for the delay with my response but I'm actually still trying to gather more information for you. I've contacted engineering regarding this issue and I'm waiting to get a call back from a manager. There is a service bulletin regarding this issue which has been an on going known problem with your style TSX within Acura division (which means Acura is aware and trying to fix the issue with a permanant fix.) The bulletin says that the cause is damage to the voice coils likely caused during manufacturing.

Here's some insight from my experience. At this point I would guess that engineering is working on a product update for replacing the speakers. That's actually the information that I'm trying to get from an Engineering manager now. However even if a product update is in the works, it will likely not act as a recall when it's released. American Honda will usually only put out recalls for safety items. Otherwise they will launch a product update within the dealers saying that if a customer comes in with this specific problem replace the failed component with this updated part. As of now, there are no updated speakers or parts to fix this problem. It usually takes about 2 to 3 years before updates are released.
I can let you know when that happens and get you taken care of. Until then if one blows, it's the same part number or component thats being used to replace the failed one.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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For those who have replaced the stock speakers with aftermarket, have you still had this problem?

Hopefully corporate comes out with a fix soon, as it seems to be a very common problem.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
For those who have replaced the stock speakers with aftermarket, have you still had this problem?

Hopefully corporate comes out with a fix soon, as it seems to be a very common problem.
I had 3 door speakers replaced. Perhaps I'm jaded at this point, but although the speakers don't sound blown anymore the system just doesn't seem all that great to me.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXfreeko
I had 3 door speakers replaced. Perhaps I'm jaded at this point, but although the speakers don't sound blown anymore the system just doesn't seem all that great to me.
Which speakers did you replace with (brand)?
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Blew out 3 speakers got tired of the dealer so i swaped mine out to 6.5 infinity 6022si
Here are some quick pics the sound is night and day difference.
Door

Close Up

Crappy stocks (tiny magnets)

New Infinity 6.5
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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^^Did you have any problems with the larger magnets?
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Depending on your speaker you will need a ¾ or 1 inch spacer for the new speakers. You have to make sure that the magnet does not hit the window when it is rolled down. I plan to put a DIY together as soon as a get a rain free weekend. I took the door apart and made my spacers already I just have to work on the tweeter mount.

I have had no issues with my 09 ELS speakers blowing and I play it loud all the time. I’m upgrading the speakers for sound improvement.

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rob_acuraoflynnwood
^^Did you have any problems with the larger magnets?
No problem at all as you can see by the pictures I cut out stock brackets from speaker and used those its really easy ill post pics of the brackets once i finish the fronts this weekend
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Jinxed it!
I fried my passenger door speaker today, no matter; the Polks are going in this weekend.

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mercman
Jinxed it!
I fried my passenger door speaker today, no matter; the Polks are going in this weekend.

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Well I'll be the first to welcome you to the club. LOL.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mercman
Jinxed it!
I fried my passenger door speaker today, no matter; the Polks are going in this weekend.

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Nice I was going to get polk's to but got a great deal the infinity's I do have 2 polk 12" in the trunk though I love the sound. good luck
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by civichbdx
Nice I was going to get polk's to but got a great deal the infinity's I do have 2 polk 12" in the trunk though I love the sound. good luck
Are you still running the factory sub?

Did you think about removing the factory sub and porting the 12's through that hole? I am curious how that would sound
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luchin
Well I'll be the first to welcome you to the club. LOL.
Just had my third on replaced today. Have you had them replace all of your yet?
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by civichbdx
No problem at all as you can see by the pictures I cut out stock brackets from speaker and used those its really easy ill post pics of the brackets once i finish the fronts this weekend
i did the same & did you use the the plug as well? but i notice when i had the unit set up on surround sound or els and full blast speakers sound like stock but without that distortion , when i have it set up on stereo the sound is much better.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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i was planning on flipping stock 8" sub but i don't know how to take the rear panel off,, can some one post how to remove
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rob_acuraoflynnwood
Did you think about removing the factory sub and porting the 12's through that hole? I am curious how that would sound
Still rocking the factory sub used PAC hight to low to my amp from stock sub. Its a nice little helper. Ill take her out when she blows. Also have a custom box being made right now that I will be installing next week. Ill post some pics when she ready.

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lopez205tx
did you use the the plug as well?
I cut the plugs made connection with speaker crimp on terminals. Sounds amazing no matter what setting.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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maybe i just need to flip the plugs out. how did you check to see what side was + and -
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lopez205tx
maybe i just need to flip the plugs out. how did you check to see what side was + and -
It doesn’t matter as long as all speakers are connected the exactly the same way. If you have one speaker connected backwards to another you will have a phase issue.
Normally one wire has a line on it, make that one either positive or negitive, and keep it that way for all speakers.
(There a red and a green in the rear doors make red + and green -) and make both rears exactly the same.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rob_acuraoflynnwood
Just had my third on replaced today. Have you had them replace all of your yet?
I must have misunderstood Burrard Acura when they said they were going to replace all the speakers.

In any case they said they replaced the rear passenger door speaker but on my way to the Ferry I noticed the speaker still sounded like crap. I don't know if they just didn't do it, which I doubt, or if by coincidence it blew again on the way to the Ferry.

I haven't taken it to Honda to have them replace it yet but will probably do it in the next week or so. At the end of the day I will probably just replace the door speakers with aftermarket ones like other people are doing.

I just don't think Acura is taking this seriously. It's ridiculous. This will definitely be the last time I purchase anything from Honda/Acura.

Toyota is having a red tag sale. 0% financing for up to 60 months on select vehicles. A friend of ours is interested in my car so maybe I will unload it and get a new Tacoma.

Who knows. I will most likely transfer everything over the the white car and be done with it all.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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i did do that, i was being lazy on checking polarities on the speaker outputs. ill take a look at the wires one more time. But i definitely sounds really good, i did the same i used
infinity kappa in the front and premier in the back so now i can crank all the bass on and sounds good no more rattling voice coils.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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hey civichbdx have u thought about getting your grill color matched?
I was thinking about doing that to mine, but i want the grill to have a 1.5 in. lip of chrome all around,
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Phase maters,
For the ELS (Tech)
Drivers door the light Green is (+) and Pink (-)
Passenger Door Gray (+) and Red (-)
LR door Yellow (+)
RR door Blue (+)
LR Deck White (+)
RR Deck Green (+)
Sub Gray (+)
Center Brown (+)
Tweeters use the same colors as the door speakers.

Jeff
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Thanks mercman for the wiring diagram.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by civichbdx
Crappy stocks (tiny magnets)
Stock speakers are neodymium so the size of the magnet has little to do with anything.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ctwickman
Stock speakers are neodymium so the size of the magnet has little to do with anything.
Good catch I read that after I posted that actually ripped them off the speaker before I tossed them in the garbage for fun.
here a link garbage http://www.panasonic.com/ELS_Surround/system.asp#
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ctwickman
Stock speakers are neodymium so the size of the magnet has little to do with anything.
Actually it does, using the small powerful magnet reduces the VC size and power handling. In this case the plus turns out to be a minus.

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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Gremlins in our speakers.

My rear passenger speaker has been sounding like crap for the past week. Today I got in the car and it sounds fine.

Now I'm really confused....

Any insight from anyone?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Try it at a low volume setting; if it is blown you will be able to hear it at the lower levels. High volume will mask it.

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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mercman
Try it at a low volume setting; if it is blown you will be able to hear it at the lower levels. High volume will mask it.

Jeff
LOL. Your right it sounds like crap. So can I safely replace the door speakers without doing anything else? You seem to be the audio guru here.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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Yes you can,
I’m replacing the fronts with 61/2 inch components. I have ordered new sail panels (tweeter mounts) so that I can modify them to fit my new tweeters. I need to find a location for the crossovers, if I mount them in the doors it makes it easy to run the wires, but I don’t like to do that. I already made the spacers for the doors and rear deck; just need a nice interruption free day to take the door apart. I will post photos and instructions on how to do this. I had to stop today to fix the latch on the Subaru and then my son had an issue with his car. Good thing I didn’t take my door apart today.

For the rear deck and rear doors go with a 61/2 inch coaxial and for the front components. For the front you can use the factory tweeter if you want and just install the woofer, or install the complete system. Another option if you want to save a few $ is to use a coaxial for the front and disconnect the tweeter (on the coaxial).

The speaker wire adapters are available I just don’t recall the part #. It is the same one used on the 1st gen TSX.

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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This may seem like a noob question but how can you determine which speaker is the culprit? I ask because i just had the driver front side speaker replaced, however i was not sure if that was it, it seemed to go away after a few weeks its back and i'm not sure if its the speaker that got replaced or another speaker?

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by win2k8
This may seem like a noob question but how can you determine which speaker is the culprit? I ask because i just had the driver front side speaker replaced, however i was not sure if that was it, it seemed to go away after a few weeks its back and i'm not sure if its the speaker that got replaced or another speaker?

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Play it low and put your ear up to each speaker. The bad ones will quack like a duck.

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Did you all replace the amp or use the stock amp after you replaced the front door speakers with the Infiniti's?
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Stock amp to the Infiniti's
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