--What tires to get??
06-18-2015 | 08:25 AM
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How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
What did/didn't you like about the current tires?
What part of the country are you in? Do you use dedicated snow tires in the winter?
Are you looking for comfort, sport, longevity, price or what?
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06-18-2015 | 05:15 PM
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We have the Continental PureContact on my wife's Lexus ES350 and the jury is still out on these. I think they are a little noisy, but we are getting good MPG out of them. Roughly 10K on them and they are wearing very well.
06-18-2015 | 07:09 PM
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Weird that I didn't think they were noisy. They are a little wavy when brand new, though. Continental seems to like using a very flexible sidewall. I'm surprised that they are a LRR tire with that agressive tread pattern.
I can't think of too many other LRR tires that actually have decent traction in snow. The Purecontacts have that as a pretty distinct advantage.
I can't think of too many other LRR tires that actually have decent traction in snow. The Purecontacts have that as a pretty distinct advantage.
06-18-2015 | 07:48 PM
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Without knowing where you live, how you drive etc, it is hard to give you advice.
How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
What did/didn't you like about the current tires?
What part of the country are you in? Do you use dedicated snow tires in the winter?
Are you looking for comfort, sport, longevity, price or what?
How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
What did/didn't you like about the current tires?
What part of the country are you in? Do you use dedicated snow tires in the winter?
Are you looking for comfort, sport, longevity, price or what?
i doubt i'll be in snow with it, i don't mind the tires that are on the car but wanted to know if there's anything better.
I live in southern California so it's always warm....
I was thinking about the same set again even though it got decent reviews or these:
Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
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06-19-2015 | 06:30 AM
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not sure on the % of thread left but when i bought the car cpo 3 years ago they were already on the car.
i doubt i'll be in snow with it, i don't mind the tires that are on the car but wanted to know if there's anything better.
I live in southern California so it's always warm....
I was thinking about the same set again even though it got decent reviews or these:
Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
i doubt i'll be in snow with it, i don't mind the tires that are on the car but wanted to know if there's anything better.
I live in southern California so it's always warm....
I was thinking about the same set again even though it got decent reviews or these:
Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
Question: How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
Answer: not sure on the % of thread left but when i bought the car cpo 3 years ago they were already on the car.
From this we learn that miles = time
From your responses I'd opine that most any tire will work well for you - or, as iCrap said, no tire at all. That'll add a sparkly effect when driving at night.
06-19-2015 | 01:38 PM
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Gotta love the reading skills.
Question: How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
Answer: not sure on the % of thread left but when i bought the car cpo 3 years ago they were already on the car.
From this we learn that miles = time
From your responses I'd opine that most any tire will work well for you - or, as iCrap said, no tire at all. That'll add a sparkly effect when driving at night.
Question: How many miles on the current tires? Are they evenly worn? How much useable tread is left?
Answer: not sure on the % of thread left but when i bought the car cpo 3 years ago they were already on the car.
From this we learn that miles = time
From your responses I'd opine that most any tire will work well for you - or, as iCrap said, no tire at all. That'll add a sparkly effect when driving at night.
06-20-2015 | 07:43 PM
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How many miles on the car now?
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06-21-2015 | 09:25 AM
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To the OP,
There are wear bars on tires that will warn you when the tread depth is low. Typically, you want no less the 4/32 of inch for snow... which I see is not an issue for you. 2/32 of an inch is the minimum required to pass NYS inspection.
Google "tire penny test" to see how to use a penny to estimate tread depth. Or there must be an article on TireRack about it.
I lean toward Michelins -- they have LRR and some are GreeenX (environmentally less damaging). Start your search with the Michelins MXV4 or its successor A/S Premiere. They have la high tread life rating.
But as many have pointed out, we need to know more in order to offer helpful advice. If you drive very little, a high tread wear rating would be a waste of money as rubber tends to become brittle after 6-8 years.
There are wear bars on tires that will warn you when the tread depth is low. Typically, you want no less the 4/32 of inch for snow... which I see is not an issue for you. 2/32 of an inch is the minimum required to pass NYS inspection.
Google "tire penny test" to see how to use a penny to estimate tread depth. Or there must be an article on TireRack about it.
I lean toward Michelins -- they have LRR and some are GreeenX (environmentally less damaging). Start your search with the Michelins MXV4 or its successor A/S Premiere. They have la high tread life rating.
But as many have pointed out, we need to know more in order to offer helpful advice. If you drive very little, a high tread wear rating would be a waste of money as rubber tends to become brittle after 6-8 years.
06-21-2015 | 09:39 AM
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Yes, sigh, I do....
The questions were simple.
In "normal" driving, the Michelin MMX will last about 40k to 60k miles before it is down to 2/32nds of an inch of tread left. If one doesn't have a tire tread gauge, then consider that the top of Lincoln's head is about 2/32nds from the edge of the penny. If you put a penny into the tread (top of the head down) and you can see the top of his head then the tires legally require replacement.
Recent studies have shown that tires really lose their wet grip at 4/32nds so the "new" rules are to replace the tires then.
Again, Uncle Sam comes to the rescue as the top of Washington's head is about 4/32nds from the edge of a quarter.
IIRC, then the Michelins have 11/32nds when new
If the OP wants to know if the tires on the car were the OE, then he can try to figure it out by the TOTAL mileage of the car. If the total mileage is 60k or so then the tires most likely were OE. If his total mileage on the car now is well over 70k, then they probably put a new set on the car right before he bought it.
If he is worried about tire wear then I certainly would recommend that he goes commando - no tires, just wheels.He ought to at least get 5 miles from a set of wheels (or rimz) if driven carefully.
The questions were simple.
In "normal" driving, the Michelin MMX will last about 40k to 60k miles before it is down to 2/32nds of an inch of tread left. If one doesn't have a tire tread gauge, then consider that the top of Lincoln's head is about 2/32nds from the edge of the penny. If you put a penny into the tread (top of the head down) and you can see the top of his head then the tires legally require replacement.
Recent studies have shown that tires really lose their wet grip at 4/32nds so the "new" rules are to replace the tires then.
Again, Uncle Sam comes to the rescue as the top of Washington's head is about 4/32nds from the edge of a quarter.
IIRC, then the Michelins have 11/32nds when new
If the OP wants to know if the tires on the car were the OE, then he can try to figure it out by the TOTAL mileage of the car. If the total mileage is 60k or so then the tires most likely were OE. If his total mileage on the car now is well over 70k, then they probably put a new set on the car right before he bought it.
If he is worried about tire wear then I certainly would recommend that he goes commando - no tires, just wheels.He ought to at least get 5 miles from a set of wheels (or rimz) if driven carefully.
06-21-2015 | 03:49 PM
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To the OP,
There are wear bars on tires that will warn you when the tread depth is low. Typically, you want no less the 4/32 of inch for snow... which I see is not an issue for you. 2/32 of an inch is the minimum required to pass NYS inspection.
Google "tire penny test" to see how to use a penny to estimate tread depth. Or there must be an article on TireRack about it.
I lean toward Michelins -- they have LRR and some are GreeenX (environmentally less damaging). Start your search with the Michelins MXV4 or its successor A/S Premiere. They have la high tread life rating.
But as many have pointed out, we need to know more in order to offer helpful advice. If you drive very little, a high tread wear rating would be a waste of money as rubber tends to become brittle after 6-8 years.
There are wear bars on tires that will warn you when the tread depth is low. Typically, you want no less the 4/32 of inch for snow... which I see is not an issue for you. 2/32 of an inch is the minimum required to pass NYS inspection.
Google "tire penny test" to see how to use a penny to estimate tread depth. Or there must be an article on TireRack about it.
I lean toward Michelins -- they have LRR and some are GreeenX (environmentally less damaging). Start your search with the Michelins MXV4 or its successor A/S Premiere. They have la high tread life rating.
But as many have pointed out, we need to know more in order to offer helpful advice. If you drive very little, a high tread wear rating would be a waste of money as rubber tends to become brittle after 6-8 years.
06-21-2015 | 03:51 PM
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Yes, sigh, I do....
The questions were simple.
In "normal" driving, the Michelin MMX will last about 40k to 60k miles before it is down to 2/32nds of an inch of tread left. If one doesn't have a tire tread gauge, then consider that the top of Lincoln's head is about 2/32nds from the edge of the penny. If you put a penny into the tread (top of the head down) and you can see the top of his head then the tires legally require replacement.
Recent studies have shown that tires really lose their wet grip at 4/32nds so the "new" rules are to replace the tires then.
Again, Uncle Sam comes to the rescue as the top of Washington's head is about 4/32nds from the edge of a quarter.
IIRC, then the Michelins have 11/32nds when new
If the OP wants to know if the tires on the car were the OE, then he can try to figure it out by the TOTAL mileage of the car. If the total mileage is 60k or so then the tires most likely were OE. If his total mileage on the car now is well over 70k, then they probably put a new set on the car right before he bought it.
If he is worried about tire wear then I certainly would recommend that he goes commando - no tires, just wheels.He ought to at least get 5 miles from a set of wheels (or rimz) if driven carefully.
The questions were simple.
In "normal" driving, the Michelin MMX will last about 40k to 60k miles before it is down to 2/32nds of an inch of tread left. If one doesn't have a tire tread gauge, then consider that the top of Lincoln's head is about 2/32nds from the edge of the penny. If you put a penny into the tread (top of the head down) and you can see the top of his head then the tires legally require replacement.
Recent studies have shown that tires really lose their wet grip at 4/32nds so the "new" rules are to replace the tires then.
Again, Uncle Sam comes to the rescue as the top of Washington's head is about 4/32nds from the edge of a quarter.
IIRC, then the Michelins have 11/32nds when new
If the OP wants to know if the tires on the car were the OE, then he can try to figure it out by the TOTAL mileage of the car. If the total mileage is 60k or so then the tires most likely were OE. If his total mileage on the car now is well over 70k, then they probably put a new set on the car right before he bought it.
If he is worried about tire wear then I certainly would recommend that he goes commando - no tires, just wheels.He ought to at least get 5 miles from a set of wheels (or rimz) if driven carefully.
i'll try out the penny test..
i have a 1 1/2 year old that sucks out my time /energy... so i get to do things in spurts...
06-22-2015 | 07:27 AM
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I am very happy with the Turanza Serenity Plus. They are not as fuel efficient as the Ecopia EP422 but I think they are the best mix of long tread life, fuel efficient, quiet comfortable ride. I also think they are better then the OEM Michelins.
I live in the city (Houston - Uptown Galleria) and do mostly city driving. I average 25mpg.
Bridgestone does classify them as an ECO-product.
Bridgestone, using the philosophy of continuous improvement, is constantly making our great tires even better, including improving environmental performance. The Eco-Products designation shows this tire has the following characteristics:
• Improved rolling resistance, which helps increase fuel efficiency and reduce vehicle emissions.*
• Reduced tire weight which conserves resources.
• Environmentally conscious materials, such as non-aromatic oil and recycled materials.
I live in the city (Houston - Uptown Galleria) and do mostly city driving. I average 25mpg.
Bridgestone does classify them as an ECO-product.
Bridgestone, using the philosophy of continuous improvement, is constantly making our great tires even better, including improving environmental performance. The Eco-Products designation shows this tire has the following characteristics:
• Improved rolling resistance, which helps increase fuel efficiency and reduce vehicle emissions.*
• Reduced tire weight which conserves resources.
• Environmentally conscious materials, such as non-aromatic oil and recycled materials.
06-22-2015 | 11:35 AM
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I am very happy with the Turanza Serenity Plus. They are not as fuel efficient as the Ecopia EP422 but I think they are the best mix of long tread life, fuel efficient, quiet comfortable ride. I also think they are better then the OEM Michelins.
I live in the city (Houston - Uptown Galleria) and do mostly city driving. I average 25mpg.
Bridgestone does classify them as an ECO-product.
Bridgestone, using the philosophy of continuous improvement, is constantly making our great tires even better, including improving environmental performance. The Eco-Products designation shows this tire has the following characteristics:
• Improved rolling resistance, which helps increase fuel efficiency and reduce vehicle emissions.*
• Reduced tire weight which conserves resources.
• Environmentally conscious materials, such as non-aromatic oil and recycled materials.
I live in the city (Houston - Uptown Galleria) and do mostly city driving. I average 25mpg.
Bridgestone does classify them as an ECO-product.
Bridgestone, using the philosophy of continuous improvement, is constantly making our great tires even better, including improving environmental performance. The Eco-Products designation shows this tire has the following characteristics:
• Improved rolling resistance, which helps increase fuel efficiency and reduce vehicle emissions.*
• Reduced tire weight which conserves resources.
• Environmentally conscious materials, such as non-aromatic oil and recycled materials.
The OP has at least 40k miles on his current tires. That would lead me to believe that he is a more sedate driver so the OE tires or the Turanza's should suit him well.
06-22-2015 | 07:58 PM
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Do yourself a favour and do not get the MXM4s again. They are terrible tires except for quiet and comfort in absolute ideal conditions. When it gets wet/snowy, the weaknesses of these tires are truly exposed. I'm not sure on the pricing but since they're Michelins I'm going to guess they're not relatively cheap.
Maybe you could list your wants/needs from a tire in a descending order of importance, so that we know exactly what you're looking for? I know you said you found the OEM MXM4s to be decent, but what makes you feel that way? Quietness? Comfort? How they handle? Because depending on what you're considering, there could be other tires out there that you may prefer over those Michelins.
If you don't mind sacrificing some quietness, I've found the Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 to be a great tire. Offers great grip in dry conditions, and handles decently in the rain. Since you won't be seeing snow, you won't have to worry about that. The sidewall is a bit on the softer side.
I'm currently running Michelin Pilot Super Sport and I love them. But these are definitely a lot more expensive as they're a proper street summer tire. They handle great in dry conditions, and unbelievably well in the rain. I chose this tire to suit my needs, which is performance in both dry/wet conditions before noise/comfort.
Good luck OP.
Maybe you could list your wants/needs from a tire in a descending order of importance, so that we know exactly what you're looking for? I know you said you found the OEM MXM4s to be decent, but what makes you feel that way? Quietness? Comfort? How they handle? Because depending on what you're considering, there could be other tires out there that you may prefer over those Michelins.
If you don't mind sacrificing some quietness, I've found the Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 to be a great tire. Offers great grip in dry conditions, and handles decently in the rain. Since you won't be seeing snow, you won't have to worry about that. The sidewall is a bit on the softer side.
I'm currently running Michelin Pilot Super Sport and I love them. But these are definitely a lot more expensive as they're a proper street summer tire. They handle great in dry conditions, and unbelievably well in the rain. I chose this tire to suit my needs, which is performance in both dry/wet conditions before noise/comfort.
Good luck OP.
06-23-2015 | 08:45 PM
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06-24-2015 | 06:58 AM
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I could not agree more. I was blown away by what they cost to replace, for the lack of anything that they do well.
I ended up going with Nitto Motivos, and have been impressed with them. Significant imrovement over the OEM Michelins.
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06-25-2015 | 04:41 PM
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I love my Hancocks I got for $70 
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Instant difference after I mounted them. They do ok in the wet if you drive like a normal person. Outstanding when dry and warmed up :thumbup:
#becauseracecarInstant difference after I mounted them. They do ok in the wet if you drive like a normal person. Outstanding when dry and warmed up :thumbup:
06-25-2015 | 09:30 PM
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The Primacys are grand touring sports tires and put quietness and comfort over sportiness. They are asymmetric tires with big outer shoulder tread blocks so I expect them to do decently in light snow.
I have used both on my TSX Wagon (not at the same time
) and prefer the OEM Pilot HX MXM4 along with another set of winter tires. My wife prefers the Primacy.