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Old 03-13-2011, 10:19 PM
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Replacing stock Headlights with HID's

Hey guys i'm new here, i was just wondering how to replace the stock headlights with hids. I just got 10k hid fog lights and want to also get 10k for my headlights. Is this really difficult to do? and can anyone post pics or give instructions of how to do it because it looks really tight to get to.
Old 03-13-2011, 10:26 PM
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first off, 10k is very high, does ny even allow that? i know in jersey i'd get pulled over in a sec for em.

anyway the tsx has HID's stock as low beams, so its just a matter of replacing the bulbs, which is easy i believe.

the foglights most people like from ddmtuning, im ordering mine within the coming days.

im also ordering 6k replacement bulbs from ddmtuning as they are $15 a pair of just bulbs
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Originally Posted by Clutch93
Hey guys i'm new here, i was just wondering how to replace the stock headlights with hids. I just got 10k hid fog lights and want to also get 10k for my headlights. Is this really difficult to do? and can anyone post pics or give instructions of how to do it because it looks really tight to get to.
you can but zenon bbulbs for the headlights, 100 for the pair, looks sick, like 6000k hid's and get the fogs hid, 600k to match the top.
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Your car already has HIDs from the factory.
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Your car already has HIDs from the factory.
I know that haha sorry if i wasn't clear i meant replacing the stock hids with the aftermarket ones. How do i get to them? and pyrodave i don't believe it is legal but hey we'll see in time i'll let you know if i get pulled over
Old 03-13-2011, 11:25 PM
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hahaha alrighty clutch. honestly i see so many idiots with purple lights in the city that i don't doubt that you'd be fine lmao. i wanna get ny plates just so i could put tints with no problem. jersey doesn't let you have any tint in the front.

and why pay 100 for a pair of bulbs? are they somehow better than the 15 dollar pair on ddmtuning?
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the higher you go on the Kelvin scale, the less visibility you have.
Have fun in the rain at night
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Originally Posted by PyroDave
and why pay 100 for a pair of bulbs? are they somehow better than the 15 dollar pair on ddmtuning?
Or the zero dollar pair already installed?

Disagree with putting in higher Kelvin aftermarket bulbs. They're illegal for a reason, you don't get as much visibility, and it doesn't even look good
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Opinions are one thing, helping is another. If he wants to install 10000k, let him. But what these guys are saying is true, the higher you go, the less visabilty you have.
I know some people with 10k and even one guy with 12k, two out of 5 of them have been defected and had to change the bulbs (I live in Australia, don't know about your country but it's illegal here).
Personally, 8000k is the most I'd go and even then, that's high. Sorry I can't help answer your question as I haven't done it myself though I will sometime next month.
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its not difficult to do, check owners manual and you'll see its pretty easy.

try to do 6000k or under though...cuz any more is
but if you insist, let us know how it goes and some pics would be nice
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ok thanks guys and here's some pics of the 10k fog lights, they're not purple they're like a light blue mine are from vvme
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Those look like 8000k o-o

10000k usually look purple
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they look cool, but probably too cool for me haha
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okay i have 2 quick questions, if i change my low beams do i need to change the ballasts too or just the bulb? and if i want to change my drl's will i lose my high beams?
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just bulb is fine

drl u will not lose high beam, if you do led drl the high beam might not be as bright
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If you do LED DRLs, your foglights will offend more people then your high beams.

Personal experience.
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can you give me any recommendations on drl's? i'm looking for a whitish color but i don't want too much of a hassle involving resistors for the led's and all of that. Could you guys post pics if you have any of yours?
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u will never get a true white with halogen. i have the nokya artic white, they are yellow in the day time. just less yellow compared to stock.
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The LED decoders aren't that big oh a hassle at all. It's as complicated as an extension cord once you realize that there's one extra head.
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Here's an alternative to installing the 10k kelvin bulbs. Just drive to the nearest police station and say "I'm thinking of installing blue headlight bulbs. please just give me a ticket and impound my car now. That'll save me the trouble of installing, then uninstalling those bulbs."
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what the? stupid thread revival?
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it's cuz there was a new user who was spamming all the hid threads promoting a new hid selling site that they probably own. he necroposted in 5 hid threads in less than 5 minutes.
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and then he got permabuttrape banned. he should join Justn's group
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^ LOL!

lol there are so many members that just posted here once or twice then they forever disappeared. there are some pretty legit build too
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I juts brought a TSX and deciding whether or not to upgrade the stock HID. Im planning on changing the stock ballast with a 55w to boost output and change the bulb with a 5k for a pure white look and replace the fogs with 3k HID's( i tried having same color low and fog but never able to get the same color!). I was wondering if anyone know how much of the color, if any, on the cutoff by switching to the 5k? Also does anyone know if the 1G TSX projector color mod still apply to the 2G? Thanks in advance guys.
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Originally Posted by aznpapaya
I juts brought a TSX and deciding whether or not to upgrade the stock HID. Im planning on changing the stock ballast with a 55w to boost output and change the bulb with a 5k for a pure white look and replace the fogs with 3k HID's( i tried having same color low and fog but never able to get the same color!). I was wondering if anyone know how much of the color, if any, on the cutoff by switching to the 5k? Also does anyone know if the 1G TSX projector color mod still apply to the 2G? Thanks in advance guys.
Huh?

Manufacturers use 4300k bulbs because that color temperature comes closest to the SAE definition of "white" and produces sufficient light to meet requirements. Going colder (higher number) not only reduces light output but the colder light also produces more glare.

Changing ballasts will very possibly cause wiring issues and you may well end up with melted bits.
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Huh?

Manufacturers use 4300k bulbs because that color temperature comes closest to the SAE definition of "white" and produces sufficient light to meet requirements. Going colder (higher number) not only reduces light output but the colder light also produces more glare.

Changing ballasts will very possibly cause wiring issues and you may well end up with melted bits.
I would have to disagree, it is true that the stock hid's are "white" but they have a hint of yellow. I'm looking for a PURE white output. Im not sure about the wiring issues since i haven't had a chance to check the wiring. but from my research if you're going to go with a 55w ballast you need a good bulb, like phillips, and not those $20 kit bulb. On top of this, I had a 55w ballast before and a pair of phillips bulb and I had no issue whats so ever.

BTW: I'm not talking bout those cheap 55w ballast but good quality ones like the morimoto ones

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OEM bulbs are pretty high quality and expensive bulbs. you'll likely get pulled over for 55W cause its just too damn bright. you'll blind people on the road. i'd consider you worse than a civic ricer. please dont do it
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Originally Posted by PyroDave
OEM bulbs are pretty high quality and expensive bulbs. you'll likely get pulled over for 55W cause its just too damn bright. you'll blind people on the road. i'd consider you worse than a civic ricer. please dont do it


I like your response here. Having ultra-bright lights that dazzle oncoming drivers is pretty close to the acme of rudeness.
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Originally Posted by aznpapaya
I would have to disagree, it is true that the stock hid's are "white" but they have a hint of yellow. I'm looking for a PURE white output. Im not sure about the wiring issues since i haven't had a chance to check the wiring. but from my research if you're going to go with a 55w ballast you need a good bulb, like phillips, and not those $20 kit bulb. On top of this, I had a 55w ballast before and a pair of phillips bulb and I had no issue whats so ever.

BTW: I'm not talking bout those cheap 55w ballast but good quality ones like the morimoto ones
You can certainly disagree all you like and your "yellow" probably is someones "blue" - a reason why SAE has defined the color "white."

The electrical system is designed for a 35w draw. Increasing that draw increases heat. Heat melts plastic bits. In addition, you'll find that the light output does not meet legal specs and you may fail inspection or be ticketed. Since a stop for lights is technically "improper/inoperable equipment," you may find your car being impounded.

While the risk of a ticket with just the 5000k bulb is unlikely, combining that with a 55w ballast certainly raises your chances and will undoubtedly piss off oncoming traffic with the increased glare. You'll also need to factor in the possible damage to your wiring.
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Originally Posted by PyroDave
OEM bulbs are pretty high quality and expensive bulbs. you'll likely get pulled over for 55W cause its just too damn bright. you'll blind people on the road. i'd consider you worse than a civic ricer. please dont do it
Totally agree with you. A set of 35w ballast and bulbs (plus projector lens) should give you more than enough light output for normal driving. You may wanna visit the optometrist if you find that the 35w does not giving you enough light output.

On a separate note, I did change my stock HID bulbs to 5000k (Morimoto) and 5000K HID fog. The color looks slightly more toward pure white than the stock bulbs. Although the fog lights are not quite noticeable (from a driver perspective) because of the same color as the low beam. They look great from an outsider perspective . Go for 3000K fog if you want noticeable light.
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Not to derail the conversation but I wanted to make sure that people understand that they are choosing form over function when they are putting 5000/6000/10000/whatever bulbs in their fog lights.

The purpose of the fog light is to illuminate the area directly in front of and to the side of the car in fog. The bluer the light, the more glare reflected back at the driver. By changing the bulbs, you are effectively removing the use of the foglights for their intended purpose and have relegated them to "look at me, I think I'm so cool" status.
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Originally Posted by ceb
Not to derail the conversation but I wanted to make sure that people understand that they are choosing form over function when they are putting 5000/6000/10000/whatever bulbs in their fog lights.

The purpose of the fog light is to illuminate the area directly in front of and to the side of the car in fog. The bluer the light, the more glare reflected back at the driver. By changing the bulbs, you are effectively removing the use of the foglights for their intended purpose and have relegated them to "look at me, I think I'm so cool" status.
I was greedy....My original intention was to have both "functional" and "I'm so cool" fog lights when I chose to have HID fog lights.....now with the 5000k I only fulfill the "I'm so cool" purpose
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Originally Posted by ceb
Not to derail the conversation but I wanted to make sure that people understand that they are choosing form over function when they are putting 5000/6000/10000/whatever bulbs in their fog lights.

The purpose of the fog light is to illuminate the area directly in front of and to the side of the car in fog. The bluer the light, the more glare reflected back at the driver. By changing the bulbs, you are effectively removing the use of the foglights for their intended purpose and have relegated them to "look at me, I think I'm so cool" status.
To add onto this, keep in mind the yellow fogs also make it possible to drive in snowy conditions as a sheet of snow with bright headlights can effectively create a white wall. Some places its even best to resort to fogs only in extreme conditions. Of course you should never do this on a busy or unfamiliar road!!

I kept the stock fogs in my TSX, upped the HID to moderately priced 6k but once the weather gets better i'll either be returning them to stock or buying some different bulbs because they seem very dim.

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Totally agree with you. A set of 35w ballast and bulbs (plus projector lens) should give you more than enough light output for normal driving. You may wanna visit the optometrist if you find that the 35w does not giving you enough light output.

On a separate note, I did change my stock HID bulbs to 5000k (Morimoto) and 5000K HID fog. The color looks slightly more toward pure white than the stock bulbs. Although the fog lights are not quite noticeable (from a driver perspective) because of the same color as the low beam. They look great from an outsider perspective . Go for 3000K fog if you want noticeable light.
Forgot to mention I do have an eye condition. My optometrist said that I have serve dry eye, I've tried numerous prescription drops and over the counter stuff but they only help slightly. Because of the dryness my eyesight decreases especially at night, that's why I want the max output to help me see better at night. Also, since I'm upping the kelvin I loose output but then the 55w will increase the output. Therefore I'm only increasing the output by a little, as such, it should not be as big a problem like as said it will be.

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i'd consider you worse than a civic ricer.
I guess I live in a city full of super ricers then, when I had the same set up with the s2k projectors on my Lexus IS350, I got nothing but complements lol

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Originally Posted by aznpapaya
Forgot to mention I do have an eye condition. My optometrist said that I have serve dry eye, I've tried numerous prescription drops and over the counter stuff but they only help slightly. Because of the dryness my eyesight decreases especially at night, that's why I want the max output to help me see better at night. Also, since I'm upping the kelvin I loose output but then the 55w will increase the output. Therefore I'm only increasing the output by a little, as such, it should not be as big a problem like as said it will be.



I guess I live in a city full of super ricers then, when I had the same set up with the s2k projectors on my Lexus IS350, I got nothing but complements lol
Ahhh, to be 25 and selfish and stupid again... Well, maybe not.

I can only hope that you don't drive in my neck of the woods.
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Ahhh, to be 25 and selfish and stupid again... Well, maybe not.

I can only hope that you don't drive in my neck of the woods.
if you're referring to me being "stupid" and "selfish" because I have an real medical condition and I want more light so i can see better when i drive at night, then i got nothing else to say lol, everyone got their opinions.

Like all other 25 year old, I'm going to be immature and refrain from calling you names my good sir

Don't worry you're see me coming for miles with my SUPER BRIGHT 55W LIGHTS WITH SUPER YELLOW FOGS! , and i'll be sure to bring my ricer possy with me.
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Originally Posted by aznpapaya
if you're referring to me being "stupid" and "selfish" because I have an real medical condition and I want more light so i can see better when i drive at night, then i got nothing else to say lol, everyone got their opinions.

Like all other 25 year old, I'm going to be immature and refrain from calling you names my good sir

Don't worry you're see me coming for miles with my SUPER BRIGHT 55W LIGHTS WITH SUPER YELLOW FOGS! , and i'll be sure to bring my ricer possy with me.
If, in fact, your desire was to see better at night, then you would certainly not have the desire to add blue light. Perhaps you should visit an ophthalmologist rather than an optometrist. I'm certain their advice will not be to add more glare but to correct the underlying condition - assuming there is one. Given your following you statement about your "medical condition" it raises the question about your "condition."

Finally:

"Aging is one of the most common causes of dry eye because tear production decreases as we get older. Dry eye affects more women than men because hormonal changes, such as those that occur in pregnancy, menstruation, and menopause, can decrease tear production. Environmental conditions also can play a role. Wind, heat, dust, air conditioning, cigarette smoke, and even hair dryers can make the eyes dry. Some people benefit from avoiding dusty, smoky areas, wearing sunglasses, and using a humidifier to moisten the surrounding air."

Can we then assume that you are an older, pregnant woman?

I find it odd that people always come up with a "medical condition" as a reason for wanting a lighting (or tinting) mod only after their initial reasoning for a foolish mod has been shot down by the rest of the community. Unfortunately, most don't know enough about their "medical condition" and usually the described mod isn't the correct solution for their "condition."

In this case, "more light" is not the correct remedy for someone suffering from dry eye.

With that, I'm out of this thread. I'm tired of people trying to improperly justify their proposed mods. Why not just come out and say "I know this isn't the most intelligent mod to make but my closest friends think it is cool so I want to do it too?"


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