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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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"The Element"

amadeus303 and I would like to propose a new Acurazine Tradition. There is a lot of controversy about ONE element of the TSX design. We all know what it is.

I have suggested and amadeus303 has seconded the motion that just as Voldemort is also known as 'He whose name is not spoken"

We shall never speak of "IT" again.....heretofore it will be only called "The Element" All newbies will be directed to this thread and chastised if they should speak of "It" in forum thread.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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^^^I bask in the irony that our new found handle even recalls the name of a stablemate from its Honda brethren.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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It's not lost on me that The Real Element is similarly an 'acquired taste'
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Nice try Colin, reframing or trying to disassociate a negative mental anchor about the grill does not fix it.

Getting an aftermarket one will or at least having Acura create a better one will rectify the issue.



Appreciate the effort though.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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I may buy a 09 TSX. As mentioned before a test drive will play a large part there.

I have already purchased new wheels that may go on this 09: 08 Accord V6 EX Wheels on 09 TSX???

I am even considering replacing my element with JDM or perhaps whatever Mugen comes up with.

The element, however is starting to grow on me.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Nice try Colin, reframing or trying to disassociate a negative mental anchor about the grill does not fix it.
Well it's not going to change, so we might as well move on so we can discuss other aspects of G2 TSX ownership.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
It's not lost on me that The Real Element is similarly an 'acquired taste'
My wife hates The Real Element, but she kind of likes TSX's element.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by prballard
I have already purchased new wheels that may go on this 09: 08 Accord V6 EX Wheels on 09 TSX???
Cool!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by xenonhid
Nice try Colin, reframing or trying to disassociate a negative mental anchor about the grill does not fix it.

Getting an aftermarket one will or at least having Acura create a better one will rectify the issue.
He said the name not be spoken.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by prballard
He said the name not be spoken.
Its like the S2000 Secret Compartment!
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Cool!
I got a great deal. $568 delivered for all four. A local Honda dealer want $570 a piece after tax. I still have to buy the tires.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by prballard
My wife hates The Real Element, but she kind of likes TSX's element.
I know you're talking about the car, but this really sounds wrong to me! Maybe it's just the way my mind thinks...
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Celtic FC
I know you're talking about the car, but this really sounds wrong to me! Maybe it's just the way my mind thinks...
Hey! Let's not make this something into something its not! At least the title wasn't "where is the wood?"
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by xenonhid
Nice try Colin, reframing or trying to disassociate a negative mental anchor about the grill does not fix it.

Getting an aftermarket one will or at least having Acura create a better one will rectify the issue.



Appreciate the effort though.
lol vouch

and on a side note, colin are u the guy who made a few acura intro videos a while back?
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by anTo
lol vouch

and on a side note, colin are u the guy who made a few acura intro videos a while back?
Yup
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Hey! Let's not make this something into something its not! At least the title wasn't "where is the wood?"
Whoever titled that thread is awesome.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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I'm actually happy to keep coming up with euphemisms. "Peeler," "Chopper," "Cowcatcher" (I know, it's not that bad),...

You have to concede one thing though, the "element" has been a lightning rod, and is unmistakable. I'm sure that's the idea. Instantly recognizable from way behind in your rearview or side mirrors.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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It will be interesting to see what alternatives come out for the element. Maybe Ronjon will make something for us, as he suggested in another thread.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
We shall never speak of "IT" again.....heretofore it will be only called "The Element" All newbies will be directed to this thread and chastised if they should speak of "It" in forum thread.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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In the same vein, could there actually be 2 "Elements" as per our brother, prballard, in post #5?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by amadeus303
In the same vein, could there actually be 2 "Elements" as per our brother, prballard, in post #5?
I stock wheels aren't ugly. They are just kind of plain and generic. They don't fit the true nature of the car.

I wanted something that to me looked more sporty and upscale elegant at the same time. The wheels I purchased may just meet that criteria.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by amadeus303
In the same vein, could there actually be 2 "Elements" as per our brother, prballard, in post #5?
I don't think so, because of all the parts of a car, the wheels are the easiest the change. (half the people would change them no matter what they looked like).

I'm sorry "The Element" is THE ELEMENT. (It's not as if there are two Voldemorts)
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Is the element the Grlllll or headlyghts........??
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTSX
Is the element the Grlllll or headlyghts........??
You are kidding right??? llirg
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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See post #41-46 here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...3&page=2&pp=40
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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OT, but I finally realized why there're the blisters in the headlights. The signals were moved outboard, and the blister is to aim them forward. Kinda ... odd.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by prballard
You are kidding right??? llirg
I understand that this thread is talking about the gr.....ll but I'm not too keen on the headlights either.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTSX
I understand that this thread is talking about the "element" but I'm not too keen on the headlights either.
fixed
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTSX
I understand that this thread is talking about the gr.....ll but I'm not too keen on the headlights either.
I think the headlights look a lot like the first gen. I saw an 09 with it's driving lights on at the dealer last night and it looked great. And I hate driving lights.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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The turn signal/nav lights (sorry, I'm an old aviator type) were moved to the outside of the two headlights. Not a bad thing, I guess. But the loss of a smooth flowing headlight cluster is a drawback of this decision.

I never really looked at the MDX and the new RL and TSX elements. I suspect that the effort here is to make them match up like a matched set of die-cast toy cars. Well, what works on the MDX IMHO (it has several little horizontal slots that make the element look like an integral part of the nose) looks like a transplant to the sedans. (As someone pointed out.) I'm repeating myself, I'm sure....

I've heard "bland styling" several times in reviews of the 1st gen TSX, so....
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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I just saw it today, and really like it.

The old TSX is so much more sporty... and um... sporty.

The new TSX is so much more modern, refined, and luxurious... with a touch of sportiness. A turbo 4 or V6 would help with the sportiness aspect, though; maybe a diesel for added fuel economy?






BTW... the grille looks great.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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I just saw it today, and really like it.

The old TSX is so much more sporty... and um... sporty.

The new TSX is so much more modern, refined, and luxurious... with a touch of sportiness. A turbo 4 or V6 would help with the sportiness aspect, though; maybe a diesel for added fuel economy?



BTW... the grille looks great.
One last thing, the wheels are boring.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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One last thing, the wheels are fugly.

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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I went to see the new TSX today. and "the element" is uh, well horrible. I did find one use for it and that is you can use it as a mirror.



that said, i was also disappointed at the interior. i noticed the door handles are not even chrome plated anymore. they are just gray. i was hoping for at least chrome or even real metal. i mean for god sakes my coworker has an 06 accord and it has REAL METAL accents. and its an accord.

my friend got a e90 325i and it has real metal covered door handles. the e46 had fake metallic plastic. the TSX on the other hand goes from at least nice looking chrome plated door handles, to uh really crappy looking and feeling plastic ones then wastes all the now non existant chrome and puts it on "the element".

perhaps there is a budget of chrome and it could only go to 1 spot.

also even the dealer there said he thought the element looked horrible.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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I drove by my Chapel Hill dealership last night, and they had a '09 TSX in front. The Element shone like a beacon from 500' away or more. No kiddin'. Now, maybe it was catching the light of the setting sun ... maybe I was "looking for it" ... but I instantly saw the '09 TSX and said to my companion, "Ah there it is ... you can see it by the light shining off [the Element]." She saw it too.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Also posted in the "rock magnet" thread....

I kinda wonder (probably in vain), would the 2004-2008 Acura front grill chrome emblem fit in the same place where the H emblem sits on the 2009 Euro Accord's grill?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I feel "IT" has sharp styling and would eventually get more approval. Seeing both Gen1 & Gen2 side by side "The Element" makes the grill on Gen 1 look real dull and boring.... I applaud Acura for taking a BOLD step in deciding to stick with the element despite the response in the initial customer review....



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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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One man's "dull and boring" is another man's (or woman's) "refined and understated."

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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
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Old May 10, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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I hate to say this but I am beginning to like the ELEMENT!! At first, it was enough to break the deal for me but the more I see it, the more I can see its potential. It must have been the same thing that happened to the developing team...after you look at it long enough, it grows on you. I agree with sr4dt, you have to appaud ACURA for sticking to an unpopular design and thinking outside the box...hopefully it will pay off in the long run. The fact that it grew on me doesn't mean it will on others. Now despite what some people have said, I seem to LOVE the new rear design of the car. I have always hated following another TSX and seeing how narrow and tall this car looked....It now has a bit more balanced proportion from the back (width to height)...My two cents ..... (BTW... you need 2 million 2 cents to buy a $40 000 TSX......
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