2008 Geneva Motor Show Photos & Coverage - Part 1
Honda has introduced the all-new European-spec 2009 Honda Accord, a car that's wider and lower than its predecessor. How is the Euro Accord relevant to us Americans? It's essentially the same vehicle that carries the Acura {{{TSX}}} badge on our shores.

Power options will vary slightly from our TSX, with three powertrains available: a 148-horsepower, 258 lb-ft i-DTEC diesel motor (which should find its way into the TSX); a 154-horsepower, 2.0-liter four-cylinder motor; and a 197-horsepower, 2.4-liter four-cylinder motor (the TSX's base engine). A six-speed manual is featured as standard on all three engines, with a five-speed paddle-shift automatic available on both gasoline motors. Manual equipped cars also feature a Shift Indicator Light that engages at the optimal shift points for fuel economy.



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SAME EXACT CAR AS YOU HAVE.. SAME ENGINE , SAME EVERYTHING!!
I belive u can actully get some stuff on the euro accord that u can not get on the TSX like front and rear sensors and others.. So I would acctully say the euro accord is more advanced then our TSX..

Did u do any research B4 buying your euro Accord.. I on the other hand knew I was getting a euro accord, and might actully get the euro front grill and transform it to the car it is THE ACCORD!

http://euro.honda.com.au/about-the-c...fications.aspx

 

AND BTW I bought the TSX not cuz it was a ACURA but becuze I like the lookm better on the Euro accord then the us accord (which is bigger) 4 door. I do like the accord coupe but speced out the same as my euro accord (TSX) the lease was the same price.
I am not one of those people that buy a car for "status" I bought it cuz the residual was 65% and for the price it was the best option for me right now.. BTW If i found the euro accord grill and emblems at a reaonable price I am going to buy them so I can drive the car I really bought, which is the EURO ACCORD!

 

It is not the same exact car when A) you can't get THAT car in our country B) the engine power options "vary slightly" as the article clearly states C) the Honda Accord in the states is a totally different car. They are only the same car when they are the same exact car. Very, very close cousins? Sure, but that gets into semantics and we could argue that all day. But calling the TSX an Accord when in the US just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

Its the exact same car..all they did was put a new grill in and slap the ACURA badging on.. Sorry to burst your bubble.. Same engine, same suspention, same EVERYTHING... Go to the link and look for yourself.. Sorry if this bothers you but you ARE driving a Euro ACCORD..

 

LOL it's not bursting my bubble and it doesn't bother me at all, I am just pointing out that your argument makes very little sense because you claimed in your original post that the TSX is not a rung above HERE IN THE U.S. and that I am driving an Accord HERE IN THE U.S. I, my friend, am not. If I were in Europe I would be, but not here in the US because the Honda Accord is a completely different car and the TSX *IS* a step up here in the U.S.

 

...in this case perception differential just may be linked to a whole series of social, cultural and mental variations......

 

I think a more appropriate statement is that the US Accord is not the US Acura TSX. The TSX does provide some upgrades. However, within the context of this discussion (octane ratings appropriate for the TSX engine), the TSX engine is not significantly better in any meaningful measurement when compared to the US Accord. The numbers prove that.

Where the TSX is an upgrade is in interior materials, suspension/handling, standard features, etc.

As I mentioned earlier, there is no reason why any manufacturer needs to tune their engines to require premium fuel. I'm sure they could easily tune the TSX i4 to produce the same output with regular or at max 89 octane rated fuel.

 

I can't believe so many people here Ant to use lower octane gas. The tsx engine is a high compression engine and was designed for 91 octane fuel. This is for a reason. It was already mentioned about early detonation etc. Using lower octane here and there is ok. But i wouldn't ever feel comfortable using the lower octane for long periods of time. Anything to do with possible pinging doesn't seem like a good idea to me. The engineers designed this car engine for 91 octane for a reason.

And the euro accord engine is not the same, its a 2.2 liter i thought.

 

If you read the top post on this page u will see that the euro accord has a 2.0 deseil and the same 2.4 liter that we have in our car not a 2.2. Sorry its the exact same car, exact same engine. What i am thinking is that gas is 2x the price in europe. So what I belive is that the American engine is sligtly tuned to run on super for the extra 4hp. Just like in the Honda genisis if u look at up specs u see that it will run on regular fine but u lose a few hp. So in Europe since gas is more important the 4hp they say regular is fine, in the states everyone wants more hp and gas is not nearly as much so they want to advertise as much hp as possible so they rate the up according to premium gas. The car will run for a long time on regular gas without any advese affects you will just lose a few hp. After doing alot of research on the euro accord and the tsx and how other engines run on certain octanes I came to this conclusion.

 

Guys, thats funny

in EU we have:

2.0 petrol 156 PS/192 Nm
2.4 petrol 201 PS/230 Nm
2.2 diesel 150 PS/350 Nm
2.2 diesel 180 PS/??? Nm (new)

all models except 180 PS diesel can have 6spMT or 5spAT. 180 PS diesel is MT only.

Yes, we have parking sensors, but we cannot have automatic door closing or keyless entry, that I red here on Acurazine forums. Other things can vary I think.

 

There aren't automatic door closers, I think I posted that, sorry. It's that the hinges are kinda tight when it's new and the damn thing wanted to close on me when getting in.

You don't have a remote/key that opens the doors & trunk?

On the gas thing, I want maximum performance out of this car and the highest I can get (within reason) in FLA is 93, yet I know many others across the country can only get 91 or 92.

100 Octane unleaded Sunoco is $7.69/gal the last time I checked, and a would be a waste on this car.

 

Aha. We have central locking/unlocking and of course buttons you mentioned, by "keyless entry" (from the PDF brouchure) I mean that you musn't press any button to get the car unlocked. The car unlocks/locks automaticaly, when you are near the car/go far away. Can your car do this? Maybe it is a difference in the poem "keyless entry", if any car has this feature in EU, it means this function.

 

Got it, no keyless start on my 09. There has been a lot of discussion here about the car needing it for the 'tech' image.

 

Well i still have strong reservations about using anything lower than 91 octane for long periods of time.

Similarly i think the opposite is true using 93 octane. Just as the engine was designed for 91 octane, using 93 probably gives no added power since the engine's compression and tuning is specifically for 91 octane. Perhaps i'll do more research into the issue.

 

in our 3 cross country road trips we found gas stations in a few of the western states that octanes were 85, 87 and 89. You could also buy 100% ethenol.

 

Our car has keyless entry, the new TL & ZDX Tech model has the Keyless Access System:



The Keyless Start System with Smart Entry and pushbutton ignition allows you to walk up to the car, unlock the doors, have the car set your preferences, and start the engine without ever having to take the key out of your pocket.

• The vehicle will sense the key remote but will not unlock the door until you touch the handle.
• You can turn the engine and auxiliary controls on and off at the touch of a button.
• Two backup systems include an ignition insert slot for any transmitter failure and a slide-out key and “valet” mode to keep locked contents secure.