MrOtocinclus

Quoting myself:

I doubt that people, while on a test drive, would rev a test car up to 7K RPM using the paddle shifters. There was even a thread on Acurazine, an *enthusiast* site where people were asking how to use the paddle shifters.

I am not saying there is no difference between AT and MT with this car. I *am* saying that the difference between MT and AT in S with manual paddle shifts is smaller than the former, and that no one's actually tested the car using S in manual mode.

Craig-D

So you're saying in every professional review of the auto TSX such as Edmund's, they forgot to try the paddle shifters in S mode? I think that's a bit of a reach. You won't even find many reviews of the auto - the manual version is the focus in most car magazines. I don't think anyone has been able to get a stock auto TSX out of the 8 second 0-60 range, while the manual does it in anywhere from 6.8-7.5 seconds depending on what you read. The manual and the auto TSX are a good 1-1.5 seconds apart arriving at 60 mph. That's a big difference.

MrOtocinclus

Well, if the professional reviews don't mention the difference, then I personally would assume that they did "forget". Having owned an AT for nearly 3 years now, I can tell you that the computer shifts to optimize MPG, i.e. much quicker than I would in manual S mode.

Even in MT, there would be a significant difference in 0-60 between someone who shifts at 2K versus someone who shifts at max HP (i.e. 7K RPM on our car).

That's all I'm saying, is to keep that difference in mind.

Edit: corrected my comment on powerband to 7K RPM instead after googling.

Shift_Acura

Like its been said earlier: theres no replacement for displacement. I came from an 04 Maxima SE. It was the worst car we have ever owned (Horrific quality but Im not going to get into that). Trust me, even if you just get the I4 TSX you will feel like you are in a car 10 times more expensive than a 6th gen Maxima.

nj2pa2nc

additional: Since I was not interested in getting a car with automatic I did not test drive them. While getting my tsx serviced I had use of automatic acura (kept them overnight and put about 300 miles on them). If the buyer wants automatic do they test drive manual transmission. I do not think so. If I want to get a new red tsx I would have to get automatic.

NXCBLAZE

Admittedly its not the quickest car in world but then again if your comparing it to V6's that was to be expected. That said though we have an 04 V6 Camry, and an 07 G35x and I will say it feels significantly slower then the G but its actually pretty much on par with the Camry or at least it feels that way.

Craig-D

I can't speak to the '04 Camry, but a '10 Camry V6 will blow an auto I4 TSX's doors off - as will most current V6 family sedans. People keep saying there's no replacement for displacement, but there actually is. It's called turbocharging. Test Drive an Audi A4 2.0T and you'll see what I'm talking about. No V6 family sedans are embarrassing an A4 off the line like they do the TSX.

NXCBLAZE

The '04 Camry was actually pretty slow compared to the new model. The 2010 Audi A4 2.0t gets from 0-60 in 6.4 seconds and a 2010 Camry V6 does it right around 6 seconds so they are actually pretty even. I tried to find some numbers for the TSX V6 but I'm getting some pretty mixed numbers.

-Insideline got 6.4 seconds
-Autoguide got 6.0 seconds
-MotorTrend got 5.9 seconds

So it sounds to me like if you decide on a V6 it really hauls and I mean lets face it even the 4 Cylinder isn't exactly a pooch.

ParaSurfer1979

A lot of those magazines mention the V6 TSX mentions that the heart of what the TSX is all about is nonexistent. If you want this car for its balance of handling then get the 4 cylinder. If you want a car that's 5k more money yet goes faster in straight line, get the V6.

lightjak_tsx

Euronoob

I've been currently driving my mum's 06 V6 Azura Camry for about a year now and I'm planning to get a CU2 (TSX) soon. Would you guys say that the CU2 will be pretty much the same/slower/quicker than the V6 Camry? I'm planning on getting the 6MT 2010 CU2.

Sorry, I'm new and researching.

Edit: The Camry is auto and I do thrash it a lot as my parents didn't let me get my S15 so I'm always in a need for speed.

raviola4

My first car was over 40 years ago (wish i still had). 1969 Mustang Mach 1. Funny, but although it may have been faster off the line than my 2011 4cyl TSX, i must say the TSX probably does a better job of most everything else in the acceleration department. I realize i'm now 62 and things change, but this car is surprising (to me) how peppy it is. No complaints. Our other car is an 07 Lexus ES350 and it's fine as well. Most driving local, stop/go, some highway etc. I'm in no hurry to get from point A to point B being they may be 5-10 miles apart and with traffic. So who needs more power? I know i don't. Gotta laugh at some of these commercials for cars with 350-450 HP. Good luck in appreciating those numbers in traffic. And with gas over $3.00 and perhaps headed higher etc. i'll stick with the TSX-4cy. Auto.

MrOtocinclus

You make an excellent point. The TSX is my first car (I previously drove the family '98 Camry) and with "only" 201 HP I find myself reaching 90 MPH quickly and with little effort when merging onto a freeway.

The problem with that is that the speed limit in most of these parts is 65. I've already gotten my first speeding ticket in this car, and now I'm always looking over my shoulder to see if CHP is watching.

I would feel incredibly restricted in a car with 350-450HP; I'd barely hit the gas pedal and be at 65 already. Heck, I feel a little restricted in the TSX.

raviola4

Maybe we should get a Smart For Two. Achieves 0-60 in a little over 45 mintues.

KillerG

you guys realize our car has fucking vtec right?

NXCBLAZE

V6 or 4 Cylinder its really just personal preference. Either way its a great car I just like the extra kick the V6 has. Obviously its really just all up to what you need out of a car.

ed_423

LOL

gotta love the movie

ed_423

if only the v6 is lighter and handles just as well, i'd then love to have a v6

Chim_Chim

Thanks to everyone who weighed in on the topic. Your input was really helpful.

CC

ParaSurfer1979

And there goes the problem magazines have. The V6 doesn't handle like the 4cyl brother. It's not nearly as light on its feet as it under-steers really bad and braking performance isn't as good as the lighter car either.