kitt1126

got the wagon 2 weeks ago, I like everything on the car except when driving on highway, say around 60 and up, it has this vibration feel on the steering that makes me think something wrong with the suspension. This is bothering me a lot, do you guys have the same experience? Please post your thoughts or suggestions.

scheißterhöffer

I don't have this problem. Certainly it's a warranty issue. Take it in.

MrOtocinclus

I agree. It shouldn't be doing this after 2 weeks. Perhaps the dealer forgot to balance the wheels and/or do a proper alignment.

robpp

iTrader: (2)

i had my wagon on the toll road the other day. speed limit is 75 so traffic goes about 80. I had a buzzing/vibration hit at 80. I am going to have my guy check the Balance on the wheels.....







But what about the road noise/ any solutions for that?????

kitt1126

car has 400 miles now, done alignment at the dealer 2 days ago due to steering not straight and would slightly pull to the left, steering feels a bit better but viration stays when on higher speed. anyone else?

kitt1126

I don't think the road noise would go away, that's just how they make their cars, my Audi A3 never did this...

ceb

Wheel balancing issue. The 60mph shudder is usually the front wheels while a 40 and 80mph vibration is the rears.

Have the tires road force balanced. I'm without vibration an every legal'ish speed.

ceb

Alignment won't fix a wheel balance proble. Ask them to road force balance it.

kitt1126

I'll have them do that and hope that is the case, thank you.

ceb

If that doesn't fix it then there is something bent or severely out of whack - why was your steering wheel off center - was it from new or did you hit a pothole.

Oh, for those unfamiliar with road force balancing.

kitt1126

pick this car up new with 10 miles, no potholes. that's why it's bothering me.

m13

3K miles on my wagon, have cruised numerous times between 70-85mph and never had your issue.

Ken1997TL

Over 7500 miles on the wagon, smooth as my previous RL.

Definitely have it taken in, under warranty. Don't pay a dime. It should drive smoothly!

kitt1126

scheduled for next Tuesday, will update result.

kitt1126

Well dealer has adjust the alignment again, did with the road force balancing and found nothing wrong with tires, hit traffic going home today so didn't get a chance to really get pass 65 long enough, will know in the morning. What if still exist, what can I do next?

MoaarLow

Take it back in. There really isnt anything else you can do. The car shouldnt do it regardless what speeds its at. So if they cant fix it tell them to keep their car.
They have to make sure its fixed.

kitt1126

ok, I have drove my co-worker's new 2012 TSX sedan today and feel the same vibration I'm having, except it's slightly less and steering not as stiff as mine. and he drove mine said nothing wrong, it's just how a TSX drives. I guess I have to adjust from German to a Jap made cars. now it makes wonder maybe it's the new EPS system. case closed.

ceb

That's odd, because every modern German car I've owned (Audi, VW, BMW) all were very picky about wheel balance. The A6/S6 was so picky that many owners had issues with balancing ANY aftermarket wheels.

robpp

iTrader: (2)

I had mine on toll road today.

Anything from 80 on vibrates so much the dash buzzes and I can see the hood shaking.

I will wait till I get a few more miles then bring it in.

kitt1126

at year 2000, i have my GTI VR6 with no issue when new, in 2006 A3 2.0T with no issue, only this tsx wagon does it. I really don't think any new cars should have this vibration.

kitt1126

for me, the vibration do exist and i even feel vibration around the pedals too, could it be any defective suspension components in our batch?

maybe i should try put on N when on highway see if vibration still exist.

Puppetmaster

And that should be the case. There must be something wrong with your car. It has nothing to do with German vs Japanese cars. I've driven and owned both and there should absolutely no high speed vibrations unless something is faulty. I've done tons of highway cruising and passing in my wagon, which is almost a year old and with just under 10k miles, and have never felt anything like you are describing.

ceb

That's not good. With bad roads it is sometimes difficult to determine what is road and what is vibration, but it never should be that bad.

After I hit 2k miles last week I had the opportunity to drive my car on a privately owned 5 mile road and only had the faintest of vibrations (that felt more like an up/down vibration) at 90mph that could well have been because I have winter tires on the car.

Ask the dealer to put the wheels on a road force machine without first removing any of the weights. That'll tell you if the wheel/tire combo currently has an issue. Thereafter they can yank the weights and do a road force balance.

I know that my car had a balancing issue initially but the tires came off within 50 miles for (un-needed) winter tires.

MrOtocinclus

kitt1126, may I ask what car you were driving before the TSX?

robpp

iTrader: (2)

Thanks. I understand road force. Had my jeep done. Only one wheel needed to have tire rotated the rest done with weight.


I highly doubt the local Acura dealer has a road force machine or is that standard for Acura????


I am going to have to eat a road force of about a hundo if I want it done.

MrOtocinclus

Damn, I really wish we could edit messages. kitt, please disregard the question, I see you already answered it above.

kitt1126

that's what they did on my tires found nothing wrong with the balance, as that's what I was told by the service advisor.

kitt1126

is your wagon 2011?

MoaarLow

Take it in now, what are you waiting for? Till a wheel falls off?
Something is clearly wrong. If theres any vibration you should feel is the leastbit, if your dash is rattling sometings wrong. It needs a trip to the Dealer

ceb

Mile High Honda has one so I suspect that Acura has one too.

robpp

iTrader: (2)

wow.


Thanks Ceb.

I am going to get to 1k miles and bring it in for a check. It done it every day when I get over 80.

benben01

Well if the wheels are balanced, then starting looking at the tires as the next culprit. I would do a front to rear tire rotation to see if that would eliminate the vibration. Anither possibility, although remote is bad or lose motor/transmission mounts. If that is the case, when you start your car, you should hear a clatter momentarily. If all checks out, I would wager the CV axels as being out of balance (slightly bent or damaged).

robpp

iTrader: (2)

ok. we'll see what the dealer finds.

maybe it fell off the boat or something LOL

benben01

yeah.. and landed on your dealer lot LOL

ceb

Yes and in your neck of the woods 80 is semi-legal so the dealership should address it. The problem with most states is that the dealerships aren't supposed to address issues at speeds bordering reckless driving.

Before anyone jumps all over me, VA's speed laws consider 20 over, or anything over 80 to be reckless driving. In VA, reckless driving can (and often does) involve getting cuffed and stuffed and spending a night with Bubba - along with getting your car impounded.

Accordingly, no Northern VA dealer is going to address a "it does it when I hit 80" problem.

Oh, and if you everget a reckless driving ticket in NoVA, don't drive to your mandatory court appearance. I know of two cases where the offender was sentenced to 30 days in jail and immediately dragged away. I doubt that he fed the meter with enough coins.

ceb

Right. There's an easy test for this too. Just rotate the wheels front to back. If the vibration changes or goes away then it is the wheel or tire. If the same vibration remains then it is a drivetrain or suspension issue.

Wheel balancing issues generally occur at multiple speeds. A vibration at 80 should also be felt at 40, then go away, to return at 80 and so forth.

In general, a vibration you feel as a side to side movement in the steering wheel is the front tires/wheels, while a vibration you feel in the seat of your pants but less so in the steering is a problem with rear balance.

kitt1126

sent an email to the sales, he has made me an appointment again to go in early Monday monrning, this time will have the service manager to test drive with me, wish me luck. hope the manager can solve the issue.

mapleloaf

In regards to your concern about road noise, i have a 2012 Tech sedan that is a very quiet car. I live in a colder climate and I always undercoated my cars. In addition to the protection that offers, it also further dampens road noise. On a decent to good road, the car is very quiet. I have driven an Audi 5 and did not notice any difference in road noise. BTW, never had anything remotely like your vibration issue and have owned a 2009, 2010, and now 2012 TSX. Sounds very much like a defect related to your car, or perhaps the wagon.

ceb

Aftermarket undercoating is a bad idea. Not only does it void the factory rust warranty but it may also accelerate the formation of rust.

WheelMcCoy

Late to this thread, but I have 4000+ miles on my wagon. No noticeable vibrations. The wagon is so quiet and smooth, I have gone to 80 mph with realizing it, and had to back off.

kitt1126, unless you are extraordinarily sensitive, something is amiss with your vehicle. Hope it all works out for you.