2010 TSX burning oil, dealer says its fine

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Old 08-26-2015 | 04:57 PM
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Well, it again appears mine is burning oil. I had it topped off recently because it was a little low, and it's already near the low end of the acceptable range. So it's going to the dealer next week for analysis, and presumably to start a consumption test. I'll report back with results.
Old 08-27-2015 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by swany0095
I purchased my 09 tsx M/T at 77k mi just after having the oil burning issue fixed under warantee. Before purchasing I asked to make sure that there was a warrantee for the fix and if it would transfer with the title. The waranree was 12k mi and it did transfer! I've put about 5k on it and no change in oil level. Hope it stays that way.
</p><p>@swany0095, was this the maroon TSX that was up on CL about&nbsp;5-6 weeks ago? I remember seeing it posted, noting that the TSB repairs were just done.</p><p>Look up&nbsp;tsx club mn&nbsp;and&nbsp;minnesota acuras&nbsp;on FB. We're a bit more active on the book of faces forum. Look forward to seeing the car!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
Old 08-27-2015 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ulrblitzer
<p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><p>@swany0095, was this the maroon TSX that was up on CL about&nbsp;5-6 weeks ago? I remember seeing it posted, noting that the TSB repairs were just done.</p><p>Look up&nbsp;tsx club mn&nbsp;and&nbsp;minnesota acuras&nbsp;on FB. We're a bit more active on the book of faces forum. Look forward to seeing the car!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
Wagons didn't come in 09 or manual.
Old 08-27-2015 | 04:23 PM
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My 2012 has 50K on it now and I'll add a quart between my 7K OCI. It may have even been closer to 2 quarts at times, maybe due to switching oil brands. It's been that way since it was new, I consider it to be acceptable running 0w-20. I also drive on the freeway a lot and will be going over 80MPH for periods of time (keeping up with traffic, it moves fast in the morning).

Find a forum where some people don't complain about oil consumption with running these thin oils. Just check it every couple of fillups and add as needed, no big deal in grand scheme of things. Some people argue with "but, I've never had a car that burnt any oil at all!" -- okay.. that argument won't get you anything, times have changed. Did your old car make 200HP at the crank and average over 30MPG on the freeway?

I assure you, there is nothing wrong with my oil control rings (it's funny, that comes up on Subaru forums as well) and there are no deposits. It's just a nature of the beast with these engines designed for thin oils.

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Where in blazes are you going 80mph during morning rush in the SF Bay Area? 280S?
Old 08-27-2015 | 04:32 PM
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Old 09-04-2015 | 12:57 PM
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Dealer did oil consumption test on my car, it passed, they said to replace my PCV valve and to continue to monitor the dip and keep on truckin'....... Or v-tec'n
Old 09-04-2015 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tecono1
Where in blazes are you going 80mph during morning rush in the SF Bay Area? 280S?
I would imagine any place he can - quickly followed by going 10-15 mph and then back to 70-80! Oh the joys of a Bay Area commute. I can't say I miss those days.
Old 09-04-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by V-tecAc
Dealer did oil consumption test on my car, it passed, they said to replace my PCV valve and to continue to monitor the dip and keep on truckin'....... Or v-tec'n
How did they do that?
Old 09-08-2015 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by briq456
How did they do that?
I informed them of my 3 quarts of added oil since my last change. They just performed a check, I assume by running my motor and looking at computer readings, exhaust and all that stuff idk, it was like an hour long so not like a long term test. I am going to continue to monitor the oil and record my findings according to millage.
Old 09-08-2015 | 10:10 PM
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I just got a notice from Acura regarding piston rings sticking, resulting in high engine oil consumption on 2009-2011 TSXs. Warranty extended on engine pistons and rings to 8 years or 125,000 miles and instructed to bring it in if I'm experiencing high oil consumption.
Old 09-09-2015 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dark Knight
I just got a notice from Acura regarding piston rings sticking, resulting in high engine oil consumption on 2009-2011 TSXs. Warranty extended on engine pistons and rings to 8 years or 125,000 miles and instructed to bring it in if I'm experiencing high oil consumption.
The reason I ask is that the letter says that they would require two days, made e think they are doing more than just doing the "oil consumption test" which they change the oil, and then you have to go back every 1,000 miles. Perhaps they were doing a compression test instead. I would rather have a definitive answer than relying on driving conditions. Sometimes I am shocked how fast the oil goes down, other times It's hardly noticeable.
Old 09-13-2015 | 11:53 AM
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In the last 850 Miles since I first started my oil consumption test my oil level has decreased a lot... I think it has to do with redlining the car like 5 times a day.
Old 09-17-2015 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by briq456
The reason I ask is that the letter says that they would require two days, made e think they are doing more than just doing the &quot;oil consumption test&quot; which they change the oil, and then you have to go back every 1,000 miles. Perhaps they were doing a compression test instead. I would rather have a definitive answer than relying on driving conditions. Sometimes I am shocked how fast the oil goes down, other times It's hardly noticeable.
</p><p>They have to start your claim, get you entered into the system, and do an oil change. Believe it or not, dealer's don't move too quick, specially when its on work they may not be getting paid for if your car isn't deemed eating excessive oil. You're probably at the end of the list, behind the people who are paying today for their oil change, check engine light, or airing up their tires.</p><p>
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In the last 850 Miles since I first started my oil consumption test my oil level has decreased a lot... I think it has to do with redlining the car like 5 times a day.
</p><p>That's one way to ensure you get new piston and rings put in, but they don't dictate how you should drive, so <img alt="Racing" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/racing.gif" style="height:30px; width:40px" title="Racing" />&nbsp;on.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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Old 09-17-2015 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercedes>BMW
In the last 850 Miles since I first started my oil consumption test my oil level has decreased a lot... I think it has to do with redlining the car like 5 times a day.
You do know that manufacturers read these threads, right?
Old 09-17-2015 | 07:42 PM
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Old 09-18-2015 | 08:21 AM
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You do know that manufacturers read these threads, right?

lol then Honda shouldn't have made the TSX a high revving 11 compression K series to put in the car lmao...
Old 09-18-2015 | 01:11 PM
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Check out if this one has a TSB. They have been sending out TSBs for exactly this problem.. though more on MTs than on ATs.

Good Luck.


Originally Posted by Jeanius
I have 2010 TSX with 93k miles, with 30% oil life left my check oil level light came on during sharp turns and downhill driving, checked the dipstick and it was barely registering.

Since my last oil change was at the dealer I called and explained the problem, went in for another oil change, it was found to be 2qt low, and instructed to come back in 1k for a consumption test.

Fast forward to 1k miles and the dealer says they are unable to replicate the problem and its fine. They said it was probably because my last oil change was 9k miles ago, when we asked why the maintenace minder would not request service we were hit with "i dont know, keep an eye on it".

When i bought the car i bought a 100k bumper to bumper warranty, im worried the warranty will expire and ill be stuck with a oil burning car on its way out or a hefty bill for repairs.

Looking for some advice on how to proceed, thanks!
Old 09-18-2015 | 02:10 PM
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Whats the 2nd TSB ? does it have to do with ECM? Not sure what that one is... just got a letter about oil consumption though.

Originally Posted by briq456
it's just that I don't drive this car the way I drove the ITR. And not getting even one ticket with this car, compared to numerous tickets in the ITR will attest to that. And the change interval was 7,500. And it used literarily no discernible oil between changes. It was at the top line when freshly changed, and it was dark but still at the top line as well. I hit VTEC more times than I care to admit given how that car sounded, I rarely do that with the TSX.

My 93 Accord with 3 times the miles of my TSX burned less oil. Thin or not, it's not normal to have to add two to three quarts of oil between oil changes. If the car is designed to run on thin oil, then the tolerances are supposed to prevent burning right? And had Acura not told me that there were not one but two different issues, one being a recall to reprogram the ECM, I would just say OK maybe it's because of the thin oil, but in the first 20-30K of this car it did NOT burn oil but now does. Something is obviously wrong if it started out fine and now burns oil.

And I don't want to sell it, nor live with it, nor fix it, Acura, out of its own admission via two separate TSB's says there's an issue, therefore they should fix it.
Old 09-18-2015 | 02:23 PM
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Its common for the oil consumption to start after 70k....
might also have build up on valves etc.

Originally Posted by kixo
Well, I got my warranty extension notice today from Acura:

Sticking Piston Rings Resulting in High Engine Oil Consumption for 2009-2011 TSX.
Reference Service Bulletin #13-006

The transferable warranty for engine pistons and piston rings is extended to 8 years/125k miles, whichever comes first.

It also says if you are "experiencing high oil consumption" to leave your vehicle at an Acura dealer for two days for an inspection.

I have a couple of questions:

- Did Acura change the design of these parts for the 2012-2014 model years?

- Does this apply for both AT and MT (I have an MT)?

- Is this "warranty extension" a strategy by Acura to preempt a federal recall? Since it's not a safety issue, I think a full blown recall is unlikely.

I am a little bummed as I made the decision last week to buy out my TSX from lease instead of jumping into a TLX....

I have not experienced any oil consumption issues in 42k.
Old 09-18-2015 | 02:24 PM
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BTW, does anyone know if this oil consumption , OR the EMC or timing mentioned early can cause carbon build up on valves? What parts are cleaned or changed for which the valves need to be removed at a machine shop?? Thanks for your feedback.
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Also for those who get the warranty work done for oil consumption.. Check if your spark plugs and valves have carbon (lots of) buildup.
Old 09-18-2015 | 07:08 PM
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So... i am getting the pistons/rings done as part of the TSB. Timing chain has some issues so thats being done.. there is carbon build on spark plugs and valves. I am told that vaves are also maybe bad/damaged due to poor quality fuel. I have never put poor quality fuel in it. My research says that.... when engine burns oil, that causes these kind of problems with valves and spark plugs. No Mention of anything about fuel. I am concerned that the car has more damage due to this oil consumption. Any thoughts ?? Trying to get a resolution ASAP..
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