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Old 10-18-2004, 11:38 AM
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Winter tires question

I have a 2002 Tl-s with stock michelins and mags. Do I get 17 winter tires and put them on these mags. Then next year buy new rims for my summer tires? Or do I buy 16 rims and get 16 winter tires?

Also what are good winter tires?? This is my first winter with this car(in Montreal Canada), I could use some advice

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if you can afford a winter tire/rim combo that is the way to go just due to the ease and no hassle of having tires remounted and balanced.

as for winter tires i have had most of them and recomend the dunlop winter sport M3 over the rest. a close 2nd is the mich artic alpin.
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IMO, the Falken Ziex's work great all year around. I had them and no complaints yet.
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Originally Posted by Faizalstar
IMO, the Falken Ziex's work great all year around. I had them and no complaints yet.
yea but they cant compare to a dedicated winter tire, no high performance allseason, or allseason for that matter can
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Depends how much you want to spend.

I would definately downsize for winter. 16 inch wheels and tires are much cheaper than 17's.

But if, say, you wanted 18's for summer then put some 17 inch winters on your Type S wheels and buy some 18's in the spring.

If you're staying in Mtl then H rated snows like Nokian WR or Pilot Alpins are fine.

If you plan to hit tremblant or the eastern townships where roads are not that great then get a true snow tire like Yoko ice guard, toyo Observe G02+ or arctic alpin.
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What is winter? Oh yeah, here in San Diego winter is when it rains

Seriously though, I used to live in NY and I used Nokian tires for winter driving. They are one of the best winter tires out there.
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i have 17" michelin arctic alpins. they are great in the snow, but one of them bubbled like my stock michelins. prob wont buy michelins again
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Originally Posted by Black-n-Tan
i have 17" michelin arctic alpins. they are great in the snow, but one of them bubbled like my stock michelins. prob wont buy michelins again
my alpins were great, but i like the winter sport M3's the best. i will get atleast 2 seasons out of them (which for me is about 50k + miles) the alpins i got about 35-40 out of.
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16 can save u a bit and better traction for winter due to a softer sidewall
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
yea but they cant compare to a dedicated winter tire, no high performance allseason, or allseason for that matter can
How about vredestein,supposedly the best.
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Originally Posted by 1st timer
How about vredestein,supposedly the best.
never heard of them
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The people at places like tirerack.com will ship you Alpins, Blizzaks, etc. already mounted and balanced on 16" steel winter wheels. This is so common you don't have to ummm, "reinvent the wheel".

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Originally Posted by hemants
Depends how much you want to spend.

I would definately downsize for winter.
If you're staying in Mtl then H rated snows like Nokian WR or Pilot Alpins are fine.

If you plan to hit tremblant or the eastern townships where roads are not that great then get a true snow tire like Yoko ice guard, toyo Observe G02+ or arctic alpin.
The thinner the tire - the better it is for winter! Larger wheels in general will use more gas, and winter tires might also increase your fuel economy, so I would go down to 16's if it is possible and stay as thin as you can. Winter tires are also made of a softer rubber and will warm faster as well as wear faster!

I would DEFINITELY get dedicated winter snows! There is no comparison between all-seasons (even if brand new) and winter tires. They help tremendously in traction. I'd be sure to get them regardless, but especially if you are not used to winter driving conditions. However, my personal preference would be the Nokian Hakkapaliita II or older model "Q" tire. I would get those for sure over Nokian's "WR" - which is really an all-season (although would provide a bit better traction than some of the other all-seasons). The two models I mentioned are true snow tires. Nokian's are also sipped all the way through, whereas a lot of the other popular brands are not. Blizzaks and Artic Alpines are supposed to be awesome tires (one in snow and one on ice) but they are not sipped all the way through and will wear faster (won't provide the benefits of a winter tire) as long as Nokian or Gislaved. I have had experience with both Gislaved and two different Nokian winter tires. They are two of the top tires (not necessarily in general popularity since they don't do nearly as much advertising...but those who need 'em --- know 'em!).

I have also heard good things about the Toyo Ice Guard, but again - my first two choices would be Nokian and Gislaved (a Finnish and Swedish company).

http://www.nokiantyre.com/nokian.htm

see my other reply if you want to read some of the same/a bit more in someone else's thread....

http://acura-tl.com/forums/showthrea...068#post986068
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I would also just get a set of steel wheels in 16's for winter... Much cheaper than getting a set of nicer rims if you're only going to use them for winter. They'll be covered in grime most of the time anyway. Use nice wheels for spring/summer when you can really show them off.
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Go buy 4 winter tires for your stock 17" rims and at the same time trade in the $hitty MXM4. When summer comes, buy a new set of 18" rims and real sticky summer tires. That's what I did except that I bought the summer tires first.
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Originally Posted by hemants
Depends how much you want to spend.

I would definately downsize for winter. 16 inch wheels and tires are much cheaper than 17's.

But if, say, you wanted 18's for summer then put some 17 inch winters on your Type S wheels and buy some 18's in the spring.

If you're staying in Mtl then H rated snows like Nokian WR or Pilot Alpins are fine.

If you plan to hit tremblant or the eastern townships where roads are not that great then get a true snow tire like Yoko ice guard, toyo Observe G02+ or arctic alpin.
can u go mount tremblant with the all season tires? possible?
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