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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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weird alignment specs please help

just had the car aligned this past monday Nov 6, 06 at Acura in Woodbine. could someone please check these values??, the weird part is my right front camber (increased) compared to the left. then the toe is -0.15?????. minimum is supposed to be -0.08 and maximum is supposed to be 0.08. The mechanic said that the addition of both equals 0, is he bs-ing me?
Also, i do not have a camber kit.... yet.... should i get one with these values??

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Left front:
caster before 3.3 after 3.3
camber before -1.0 after 0.2
toe before -0.15 after -0.15

Right front:
caster before 2.9 after 2.9
camber before -1.2 after -1.4
toe before 0.15 after 0.15

Left rear
camber before -0.5 after -0.8
toe before -0.55 after 0.15

right rear
camber before -1.7 after -1.6
toe before 0.20 after 0.15

Alignment values
total toe front 0.00 rear 0.30
set back -0.4"
Thrust angle 0.0
Camber difference front 1.6 rear 0.8
caster difference front 0.4 rear ---


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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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What im wondering is how did camber change that big on the front when there is no way to adjust camber on our cars? Are you lowered?

A =15 = a -15 does =0 But the values should be measured at each wheel, not adding the 2 sides together. and the values arent in the specified range.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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I lowered my car about a year ago (H&R sports). I guess the shop where i took to align them did not do a good job because this summer my new toyo poxes were gone (inside). So this time i decided to do it at Acura of Woodbine and get it done right. then i get this.

the only thing done to my car was springs. short after that i was getting that "vibration only at 80 km/h" which still happens. Actually, i was hoping that this new alignment would correct that but it did not.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Well a vibration could be many things. LIke a tire that needs better balancing. Toe will wea out tires far faster than camber and you had alot of toe. That would explain the insides of the tires being worn. I would still have them get teh tiers with in the values on each side instead of total. I wouldnt trust a dealer for that. I would go to a actual tire alignment place.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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And with 1 tire having 1 deg neg camber and the other not having it seems weird, and i would look into a camber kit
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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thanks for the response. I did have the tires balanced when i felt the vibration for the first time. Actually i balance them once, then i balance them as "in-car ballance" but the vibration still was there. the mechanic then said that it has to be the tires, But i had 2 sets (winter and summer). then he said both sets are bad...... wtf.

Now that i remember... i did just replaced the front right upper balljoint a 2 weeks ago since it was very bad before. maybe i should have replaced both of them at the same time???
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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is your front right springs sagging lower that the left side? are the wheel gaps equal from both sides? Maybe you have a defective front right spring.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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i checked the clearance of the gaps on both sides, they appear to be fine.
aaaarrrrrrr!!!! this is so frustrating!!
I am even thinking of putting my old stock springs back in.

ok, please recommend:

1.- after buying my springs to have my car lowered, i had this vibration, sent it to be balanced, aligned and what not, i had to replace the upper ball joint, i know i will have to replace the shocks and most likely i will have to get a camber kit.

a.- Is there anything else that i am missing that i have to look out for / replace?
b.- will putting back stock springs solve all my problems (my mechanics says yes)?

2.- should i get front or back camber kit??? or both???
3.- Please recommended a good alignment place, i live in hamilton, i am willing to go all the way to richmond hill if i have to.

sorry for the long post, i am getting frustrated and a bit anoyed over this vibration. the wife says she kind of likes it though

thanks
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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You shouldnt have a vibration just because your on lowered springs. There is somethng wrong.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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i was hopping that putting a camber on and re-aligning all my troubles would go away. Is this not the case? i mean, would you say that this alignment set up i have before and right now is not the vibration problem? dammmm

I was thinking that because my car was not aligned properly, the inside steel threads (not sure the technical term) shifted, then creating a defective tire. This may be showing as a vibration........ man... i am thinking too much.... my head hurts

Another weird thing is that it only happens when i press on the gas. If i am coasting at 80 km/h there is no vibration BUT as soon as i put my foot on the gas at this speed, then it vibrates.
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