I drive an 01 TL and like a lot of others my transmission went out. I got a rebuild done about 3 months ago (should have done a swap i know) but anyways went to a shop called Skyline Transmission in Comstock Park, MI and got it rebuilt and spent $2860 w/ 3 year warranty.

2 weeks ago on Saturday i got stuck and tried getting it out for about 45 mins. After being unable to get it out i gave up and got it winched out the following morning. Drove the car for about 2 hours and it suddenly started slipping between 2-3 and 4-5. So i drove back to school and used it for another 3 days and dropped it back off at the same shop.

They didn't get back to me with ANY information until the 7th of March (exactly 1 week later) I woke up to a phone call from the owner Pat. He tells me i need to come down to the shop right away to discuss things about the trans, He refused to tell me anything over the phone and said you HAVE to come down i'm not discussing this over the phone.

I get to the shop and he takes me to a different shop where he sent my transmission ("To get a second opinion" they seemed like buddies if you asked me). Apparently the two are telling me i melted my the differential (which is caused by ragging on the car for an excessive amount of time). because of that issue they decided to cut my axle in order to get it off. (Keep in mind they didn't ask before doing any of this) Pat says nothing was wrong with my transmission, and i will be responsible for paying them labor on putting the transmission back together and for the axle and differential.

After dealing with all this i look up the business and these are in the top 3 links when you google them. The guy seems sketchy and was being a complete ass. & refused to give me a loaner car like they advertise on their website. WHAT THE HELL DO I DO?! My car was atleast running before but now it's completely immobilized

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Skylin...omstock-913425

http://www.yelp.com/biz/skyline-tran...-comstock-park

 

Oh and keep in mind only 2000-3000 miles were driven on the rebuilt transmission.

 

Hey Sharma1492, IMO the shop should have contacted you concerning the "melted" differential before deciding to cut off the axle for tranny removal and inspection. If indeed the tranny is not bad, then IMO.....getting stuck may have caused the differential to fail.

Try negotiating the labor costs for replacing the differential only. Work involved with inspecting the tranny should be covered under the warranty. But, the fine print may be gray and fuzzy ?

 

@3.2TLc The differential going out can cause my trans to slip? and on top of that i lost 4-5 and couldn't get into them even while in manual

 

LOL... This screams SUE THEM all over the place, talk to a lawyer don't freaking pay a PENY.. They were the ones that started to cut stuff without your approval so its their problem now.

 

$2860 for the original repair and now to charge you more for:


1. A faulty rebuild
2. A failed repair on the rebuild
3. Doing work that you were not notified of.
4. Trying to charge you for that work.
5. Keeping you without a vehicle or a loaner.


I would recommend calling an Attorney or two. Do not call the repair shop without being represented. Demand all your money back. If you can get additional money for the rest that would be a bonus.

 

I dont see how a diff would cause slip between gears, it has an oil jet on top of it. But yea they are giving you the run around, You should never make mention of the 45 minute trouble you had.

 

How much money is the shop wanting to put everything back together and return the car back to you in guaranteed working order ? You may need some legal representation to assist you in this matter.

 

Where do i even go to find a lawyer that is capable of doing this? like i'm not sure what law firm will.. Any michigan people on here?

 

But the shop left a voicemail while i was working saying that they are waiting on hearing back from parts and will let me know on Monday the 10th with prices

 

Did you tell the shop about the "getting stuck" incident ?
If so, they may use that against you during the process.

 

Your dif would NOT cause the trans to slip between shifts. They are screwing you. Get in contact with a lawyer.

 

Nope i told them i never got stuck. so i wasn't sure what they were talking about. but Thanks guys!

I'm glad to hear my dif wouldn't cause my trans to slip between and slam gears. & some how caused me to lose 4-5. That's a huge weight off my shoulders, but i need to find an attorney asap!

 

So the shop called me today and told me they have the parts waiting on call. and i was going to need an axle, differential, and for putting the transmission back together.

Axle $175
Differential $485

didn't tell me a price for what they would like to charge me for putting the trans back together. i've been looking at lawyers just hard trying to find one for this situation..

 

So is the transmission repaired also or are all these other fixes supposed to do it? Tell them to hold off on the repairs until you are properly represented.


Another thousand bucks with my math is close to 4000.00 dollars total so far.

 

Like everyone else, I think you're getting screwed. The differential is part of what they rebuilt, and should be covered by the warranty. Doing any repair without your approval is against the law in Michigan, and the bureau of automotive regulation really frowns on it. Or at least they used to; I haven't heard anything about them in years.(I'm not a crook!) You could try 800 292 4204, but that number is on some really old signage I've got. Or try mich.gov. Good luck!

 

That new diff and axle wont fix the slipping issue they are making a huge mistake only to have you come back and claim something else. Get that lawyer asap.
Unless they forgot something and they are fixing it this time.

 

Besides replacing the axle and differential, is the shop going to put everything back together on their tab by utilizing the previous rebuild warranty ?

Are your out of pocket expenses going to be only just for the new axle and diff parts ?

Get a written estimate fully detailing parts and any extra labor for having your car properly repaired.

 

His email i received that he called telling me to fax back.. No way i am signing anything before speaking to an attorney

Amit Sharma contacted Skyline Transmission regarding warranty transmission

issues with his 2001 Accura TL.

The vehicle was returned Skyline Transmission to be evaluated.

Upon an inspection and testing it was determined that the transmission was not

performing properly.

Additional hoist inspections were conducted and it was discovered that the

passenger side axle was locked into the differential side of the transmission

assembly.

The transmission was removed under warranty and sent out to Cottman

Transmission for review of the damages that occurred.

Cottman Transmission was used as an outside source to provide an opinion as

to the cause of failure.

Cottman Transmission disassembled the assembly and contacted Skyline

Transmission and determined the cause of failure as external conditions because

of order of failure. It was found that the differential and the driver’s side axle

shaft were welded together.

The extreme damage was caused by something other then normal wear and

tear.

Amit Shamara was contacted and was requested to view the damage at Cottman

Transmission with Skyline Transmission in attendance.

The other conditions of the transmission components did not show any sign of

extreme heat.

According to Cottman Transmission the only way that this type of damage could

occur is with improper use such as getting stuck in snow or manually shifting the

transmission assembly.

With the information provided from Cottman transmission and the parts review

with Skyline Transmission with Amit Sharma present Skyline Transmission has

elected to charge Amit Sharma a portion of the additional repair due to improper

use. Amit had representation to ask any and all questions during this review.

The attached parts list represents components that are required to return the

transmission to normal working order and to re-instate the warranty.

The axle shafts will also require replacement not a warrantied component.

The required parts and total costs are as follows.

Differential Assembly (used tested good) 175.00

Main Control P7W Pump and Gears (used test good) 150.00

Gasket and Seal Kit 4th

With Torque Convertor 225.00

ATF 95.00

Parts total for transmission 820.00

gear friction/steels

Drivers and Passenger Axle Shafts 180.00

Intermediate Passenger Shaft not in pricing

Removal and re-installation 0

Transmission rebuilding labor reduced to 375.00

Total for completion without intermediate axle shaft $1375.00

 

In all seriousness dude.. Don't sign, don't agree and specially don't give them the heads up before you Speak to a lawyer and ASAP..


They are screwed the moment they started to fix things on their own basically walking over you and making a scam repair.. Basically the differential is the last part on the transmission to fail is like, almost the last part you can think off it will fail.. There are Sensors, ATF Pump, TQ Converter, CLUTCH PACKS all of them come wayyyyyyyyy first than the Diff its hilarious.. They think they will fix the slippage with that? They are completely wrong.

 

I wonder though, They were able to get the axle out of the diff when it was first rebuilt. Now they claim "welded"

Since I have taken one apart and some others have too, If the diff was really stuck wouldn't you need half of the transmission casing that its stuck to ?
Meaning if they are not selling you the case of the transmission (which is expensive) they successfully were able to remove the stuck axle from the diff therefore salvaging basically everything and maybe the axle.

If in any case the job goes through DEMAND your old parts BACK !!
Thats the proof that they did what they claimed, That is Unless they just take some old parts laying around the shop.

Ask them for pictures of the damage you can use them as evidence.
Thats what I would do, hope it helps.

 

Good or bad let us know what happened with your car.

 

Yeah i'll keep you guys in touch, thanks for all the help everyone! Let me know if you want to add anything

 

During this process, if ya need a rental due to the car being inoperative.....make sure that ya keep all the receipts during the inconvenience.