junteschan

I just happen to notice Chatsworth Transmission advertized on this forum...anyone here had their transmission repaired/rebuilt/replaced by them ? Better yet is there maybe a special rate for a rebuild when our transmission starts slipping on D5?
This should prove to be good news fot the membership thanks to our forum owners/moderators....

01tl4tl

why dont you call them and say you saw their ad on acurazine.com
ask what the special ziner rate for a standard TL overhaul is
1600-2500 range is average

the D5 light may flash as a warning of trans death,, but the real problem is 2nd and 3rd gear clutches wear out,, and slip just like a manual trans clutch would

friesm2000

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actually i pulled mine down after doing the 6-speed swap, and fifth gear is actually basically worn down (no friction material left in spots), and when i pulled the valve body apart, i actually had burnt fluid marks right around the lock-up cluch solenoid too (after i wiped down the metals plates with a rag to get the majority of the shit off, there are a couple of dark blown spots right around the solenoid), also the metal clutch plates have a blue hue to them too, from being overheated


so it slipping in fifth gear is totally plausible

and also 1st gear happens to be siezed too

01tl4tl

thats correct- the drive gears share shafts, the clutch disc packs run 2 gears each,
so 5th failing could happen BUT
the D5 light does not mean its a 5th gear problem,,just trans problem...
which will be many many parts due to excess heat,,,some overzealous driving and lack of fluid changes may cause some trans to be worse than others

01tl4tl

burnt the metal disc between the friction disc!!--someone had fun~

friesm2000

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i bought the car with knowing the tranny was going to need replacing, but yeah 2nd and 3rd gear clutch pack look perfectly fine , maybe a little worn for 120k, but they still had plenty of clutch left though


and as far as burnt, i only discolored them.... , but yeah when you start getting metal on metal from the clutch material being fully worn away, not good (remember it had puked itself twice, both times on longer trips on the highway where it would sit in fifth gear for like an hour or longer

and as far as having a little bit of fun, i was averaging only like 16 mpg, before the swap
and now after the swap, i am still only averaging like 16 mpg, ALONG with 2 quarts of oil every couple of weeks too

and on that first gear, i even discolored the drum itself

junteschan

01tl4tl & friesm2000,
Thank you to your replies. I will and Ill let you guys know.

01tl4tl

thanks for the research j--are you a retired tech or whats your story?
you like the techroline-personal use? results?

fries- is that engine oil you are burning? or is it going past the rear main seal you didnt replace with the trans swap<g>
whats the compression?

have you tried seafoam in oil and gas to free sticky rings?

friesm2000

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i'm burning the shit, i have absolutely NO drips on the ground especially not 4 quarts worth in like a month and a half


then compression wise, i am running roughly a 15.3 at the track with shitty launches
then a 14.6 with only a 60 shot, just gotta see what this 100 shot will do tomorrow

01tl4tl

you are boosted? or nox?
and running stock rings?

do we need a diagram to see where the oil is going!?!

friesm2000

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ing, and even before i hooked up the spray, i had higher oil consumption with the 6-speed in, mainly due to how it has changed my driving

kingstonn

does it mean anything if d5 light comes on when u start the car. No blinking. goes away after a couple seconds.

friesm2000

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iirc lol, it is a normal bulb check (like how the other lights come on also, then turn off after a few seconds)

junteschan

I just dropped by Chatsworth Transmission today 10-13-10 and met with the manager Al. For a 2k TL he quoted $1095 for parts & labor for a tranny rebuild.
It includes a torque converter,a master rebuild kit,solenoids and some other parts he did not mention. Its got a 1 yr warranty and takes about 4 days for the rebuild.
He agreed that the price is good up to dec 31,2011.
So far he's got the lowest quote.
I likewise take this opportunity to consult with our tranny gurus of what other questions should I be asking if any more?
Thanks.

friesm2000

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does that include removal and installation from the car???; cause i think that is probably not including that, just seems to good to be true (especially for that price)

01tl4tl

thats a good price on just the trans rebuild
Ask if besides new clutches, it gets all new metal disc between each friction disc
ask fries about those being burnt~

hey fries--wanna copy the list of worn parts from yours--make a good thing to run by this rebuilder,

if a seperate shop does the trans remove and install, thats usually 4 to 6 hours labor charge

May as well pay the extra half hour labor and 10 dollar part for a new crankshaft rear main seal
Better safe than be one of the leaks a month after trans job and pay labor to r and r again to get the seal
trans job does not cause that seal to fail--its mileage and heat

01tl4tl

ask about replacement of the external filter

If he has done several of these- where things clog up as disc deteriorate and spread is already known and he replaces whats needed plus anything near end of life

fsttyms1

14.6 on a 60 shot??? Ouch, i bet i could run that launching (with bog) in 3rd last time ran, i ran a 13.8 NA

friesm2000

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remember i am also at altitude (~5800 ft), which adds a second to any time i try to run compared to sea level



and i will admit that it was NOT the best of launches either, still working on getting it better
and Bandimere (the track) is really grippy compared to alot of other tracks, so alot easier to bog it down (and not have any type of wheelspin)


edit:01tl4tl, i will make a list later, but in reality too big of a list, cause of how it only takes one simple failure to screw the tranny up

01tl4tl

how about just the oddball parts-- I see you listed some parts a few post above,,forgot it was in this thread,,, Doh! on me~

you can rent an instructor to help learn to race!!,,,drags probably have school days same as road race tracks

you ever ck the engine compression--see how bad the rings are letting oil and speed past?

friesm2000

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some of it is just pratice though


as far as engine compression, i want a 3.6 stroker motor anyways

fsttyms1

Yea, but a 14.6? I was close to that with the TL-P motor and 5 speed autoslush

What is your compression on all 6?

01tl4tl

total remaining compression--umm about 600 for all 6

practice by yourself vs practice under the watchful eye of a professional racer acting as your instructor --are worlds apart

have you been to a regular road race track day with the TL, or any car- before?
there is an excellent track near your

Most drivers-regardless of age 20 or 55 come away wondering how they survived on the open road this long
There is that much wisdom and technique for smoother=faster imparted on you..
go do it and watch times drop

you are turning the traction control off right noob

friesm2000

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other then the drag strip, about the extent of my "road race" experience has been the local fun center's go karts

My DRIVING is AWESOME, which is why i have survived

and what do you mean by this traction control....
do you happen to mean the VSA, if so YES i turn it off (except for once or twice though )

junteschan

Thanks for the replies 01tl4tl & friesm2000.
I forwarded your questions to al and should anyone wish to contact him for further info, here it is:
Chatsworth Transmission
8840 mason avenue
canoga park
ca 91306
818 882 0242- phone
alnuya@aol.com-email
This is one possible resource where I can go in case my
tranny breaks down.
Right now Im still hanging at 169,000 + miles on my oe tranny and still running good.

friesm2000

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, i got 120k out of mine (with puking itself twice along the way ) then i swapped it as part of my 120k service, it was a preventative maintenance item (but i milked it for almost 27k, and it still had life left in it, but i wanted to spray and be a manual though, so i seized up first gear


but as far as parts for my tranny, minus all the seals and gaskets and filters, it would not need a whole lot, basically other then fifth gear which had worn itself down to nothing, which i think was cause by the lock-up clutch sticking (it has burned fluid on the spacer plates in the valve body) or something and basically overheating the fluid, and taking out fifth, it would just need a thorough cleaning internally

oh and first gear too, along with the clutch drum and all too

01tl4tl

uh-oh J,,not supposed to speak of current miles and how well trans is doing
That can start the azine trans curse death clock

combined with having done ~this research~,,your car may react ~

friesm2000

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junteschan

01TL4TL & Friesm2000,
Removal , rebuild & installation of the auto tranny on the car included on the quote in his shop.
Anyone in this forum who was happy with his auto tranny rebuild in the Los Angeles/San Fernando Valley area.
Lets hear them for the benefit of all. Thanks.

junteschan

xx I have my fingers crossed on both hands.
Lets see what happens

01tl4tl

1100 is an awesome price --if you need it~

dont be surprised if front motor mount is found leaking-(part $120-150)
very common to see when trans goes,,
thats the first time anyone knowledgable looked up at it and saw the oil trail
very easy to replace- 15 minutes when trans is removed for rebuild,,
otherwise pita to do with trans in