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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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Today I got a oil change and the drain plug was drippin a lil oil we put a new washer on it but then notice that the oil drain plug would keep spinning I know this really shouldnt be happening, but I change my oil every month just about i pushed it like 1000 miles over 3000 cause the folks that do my oil change insist that it doesnt need to be changed every 3000 that is just wastein oil and how in there country they dont even change the oil but summer and winter and some shit like that haha im like doode shit will blow up. Im going to check on it now that im at work to see if i see anything dripping from the oil drain plug
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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ok so i looked it up on the fourm seems like theres a bunch of routes to go haha. sorry the cheapest being useing a self tapping over sized drain bolt. or getting the oil drain valve which i think is a good idea since i let my friends shop do the oil changes i should probably do my own too.http://www.qwikvalve.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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depends on thread condition.need to drain oil and inspect
fix NOW or 5 qts can leave in a hurry

shop owes you for putting plug in too tight and damage to oil pan
29 foot pounds is spec torque on bolt

does the valve require stock sized threads?

3000 is old news, oil change reminder on dash (mait req light) is set for 7500 miles
since last reset (with trip buttons)

5000 on junk oil 7500 on decent oil,,more on synth if you want!
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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my car has like 184k but still seems to run like shes young
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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the labor was free.. i usually pay for my oil changes but lately i been bringing in my own oil and only payin 10.00 so whats they saying go?? haha cant complain if it was free labor they pointed out it was leakin slightly before they removed it but ya they are the only ones that do the oil changes they said they gonna have the master mech carlos look at it they real cool. i double checked it when i got to work which is 40 miles away from home and nothing is leaking onto the ground. the drain plug is on tight enough to where i cant turn it with my fingers but if you put a wrench on it it will continue to spin
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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STOP DRIVING THE CAR

finger tight = 5 quarts of engine blood on the ground in seconds when plug vibrates and backs itself out

they overtightened your drain plug
thats how they get messed up,,they didnt say anything last time when it didnt tight correctly,,,maybe the new shop kid did the work,,,,

they owe you a new oil pan- installed
bit of work to do -thats why people try to get away with larger plugs etc

200,000 miles and these engines are like new inside
as long as you change the oil every 7500k miles

run seafoam or bg thru gas to keep systems clean inside
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Stripped oil pan drain plug hole

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ok so i looked it up on the fourm seems like theres a bunch of routes to go haha. sorry the cheapest being useing a self tapping over sized drain bolt. or getting the oil drain valve which i think is a good idea since i let my friends shop do the oil changes i should probably do my own too.http://www.qwikvalve.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

Hey HP X2.3,
I would'nt trust the leaky drain bolt in the pan. Check the pan's drain hole threads condition. It's possible to rethread the hole with an appropriate sized chaser die. If really bad, it may need resized. Be careful of metal filings if done while pan is still on the motor. Pan will require flushing. Get a new sealing washer along with the drain bolt. Start doing your own oil changes !
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Today I got a oil change and the drain plug was drippin a lil oil we put a new washer on it but then notice that the oil drain plug would keep spinning I know this really shouldnt be happening, but I change my oil every month just about i pushed it like 1000 miles over 3000 cause the folks that do my oil change insist that it doesnt need to be changed every 3000 that is just wastein oil and how in there country they dont even change the oil but summer and winter and some shit like that haha im like doode shit will blow up. Im going to check on it now that im at work to see if i see anything dripping from the oil drain plug
first off 3k is a waste. and doode your shit wont blow up. Ive gone as far as 15k on regular oil and 25k on syn. Guess what... Didnt blow up. As for your problem, you like playing Russian roulette? Thats what you are doing. If that comes out while driving by time the oil light comes on it may be too late. Get it FIXED. LIsten to the others and either have it tapped or replaced before it does blow up..
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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ya the new guy i guess my car was the gunnie pig fuk im always up there too. but shit its already be dont i been checking it if its been leaking and doesnt seem to be leaking on the ground. this sucks but i guess the oil pan is probably original and it happens when i dont do my own oil changes. Im going to see if they will fix it tho
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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shit if i got to remove the oil pan im going to install new headers wouldnt that be a good time to swap the headers out??
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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STOP DRIVING THE CAR

finger tight = 5 quarts of engine blood on the ground in seconds when plug vibrates and backs itself out

they overtightened your drain plug
thats how they get messed up,,they didnt say anything last time when it didnt tight correctly,,,maybe the new shop kid did the work,,,,

they owe you a new oil pan- installed
bit of work to do -thats why people try to get away with larger plugs etc

200,000 miles and these engines are like new inside
as long as you change the oil every 7500k miles

run seafoam or bg thru gas to keep systems clean inside

well i said when i tried spinning it with my fingers i couldnt do it. but when we put the wrench on it it kept spinning but ya imma bring it in at the stealership for a transmission fluid flush I will get them to do an Oil change and see if they can take at look at it and maybe fix it.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 01:14 AM
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now theres a bad plan!!!!
do you enjoying putting yourself in bad situations?

dealer will insist on new oil pan--liability for new engine if plug comes out- after they were last ones to touch it

now your car is stuck there with a stripped plug and no agreement with first shop
on them paying for repair at dealer

go make that deal before anything else,,like a red light on dash that means goodbye engine

for reference the torque spec is 29 foot pounds for that plug
thats a lot more than a gentle pull with the wrench just past finger tight!!!
more like a good pull and whack with the hammer = 29
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 01:18 AM
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at dealer- trans flush- are you doing a basic 3 qt drain and fill for 100 bucks?
thats a ripoff as they have a minimum labor charge thats more than actual time spent

or hooking up the special acura trans fluid machine
how much is that for a full 7.3 qt exchange?
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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ya me and my friend did the last drain and feel successfully. I will just bring it back in asap to where i got the oil change. they told me to come back either way so I will check up on it
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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Git 'r done !

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ya me and my friend did the last drain and feel successfully. I will just bring it back in asap to where i got the oil change. they told me to come back either way so I will check up on it

So you were an accomplice to successfully jeopardizing your TL's life !


Check back and tell us how the loose drain plug turned out for you.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:22 AM
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The transmission drain and fill was sucessful. The last oil change not as successful but they look

Well I saw online for a Oem pan is 95.00 but Im guessing I have to pay for shipping I will call the dealership tuesday and ask them how much their price is. I also brought it in this morning to the place that does my oil changes they said its good and not leaking or whatever and I dont need to worry about it. and the master mech Carlos which is a real cool OG just told me to bring it next oil change and pretty much same stuff yall told me.. If the pan is stripped the I can go with re threading it and useing a oversize bolt, or the Correct way replaceing the oil pan... I think Im going to replace the pan...seriously considering aftermarket headers I check my oil level the night before too, it was right above the second dot im guessing half a qt over... we did use 5 qts of mobil "super" and its super golden soo i like... lol talk about paranoid about my acura tl thoo... but ya I know what you mean better safe then sorry and no I dont like risking it I dont want to spend alot more money then I already do. the car on the other hand seems like it can go another 15 years its soild and im hoping that they "got" it right when they brought it in for the recall work.. I have put like 46k on it so far in 2 years its been on a few good out of state road trips..
I used this car for my Family and my Job so I have to rely on it and its got to be able to keep up with my driving "style" I do my best to just keep it "spirted" driving. I dont ever want to really sell it cause I know I wont want to take the risk on another 2 gen and this is the chosen one

If I were to spend money It would be on stuff to make the car look real luxurious like suspension and wheels, oem painted lip kits and etc sarona roof spoiler mugen tri wing atpl exhaust call it a day :P

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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:39 AM
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now theres a bad plan!!!!
do you enjoying putting yourself in bad situations?

dealer will insist on new oil pan--liability for new engine if plug comes out- after they were last ones to touch it

now your car is stuck there with a stripped plug and no agreement with first shop
on them paying for repair at dealer

go make that deal before anything else,,like a red light on dash that means goodbye engine

for reference the torque spec is 29 foot pounds for that plug
thats a lot more than a gentle pull with the wrench just past finger tight!!!
more like a good pull and whack with the hammer = 29

lol I wouldnt want to put the dealership thru that headache they are real nice when I come in for anything I need Parts or Service they are A+ with me and I never Service my car there.. once for the air bag recall and everything check out good they replace the thorx bolts or something like that and had inspected the air bag, they help diagnose a bad tension er as well. I can do all the motor work and stuff myself and with the help of friends. I can see why people want to keep there tl's automatic so you dont have to worry about shifting in your luxury car save more gas cause you wont be tempted to down shift and floor it for no reason.. the only reason in not going with a automatic if it breaks is you dont want the same thing occuring twice.. maybe it will last longer and be littler quicker I dont know anyone yet with a 2 gen 6 speed tl so it would be unique.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:43 AM
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at dealer- trans flush- are you doing a basic 3 qt drain and fill for 100 bucks?
thats a ripoff as they have a minimum labor charge thats more than actual time spent

or hooking up the special acura trans fluid machine
how much is that for a full 7.3 qt exchange?
7.3 is probably like 275.00 Im guessing. The drain and fill 1x3 is like 75.00
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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http://www.proimporttuners.com/parts...FQOf7QodaWUArA

would these headers work on a type s

http://www.wickedcarparts.com/2003-a...eaders-1-pair/

or for a couple dollars more I can get the Dc's and I they fit type s for sure

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does anyone know if ct transmission coolers work?
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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did the tech put a torque wrench on the oil drain bolt and say its 29 foot pounds and no leaks?
anything else was total bs to make you go away

Wait till next oil change??,,no--fix it today- a few qts of oil is not worth the risk

Unless you have it in writing they accept liability and told you to drive it like this= instead of fixing it,,
expect the plug to loosen and probably fall out soon
when it happens,,,, they bought you an engine

wanna bet they argue -you caused the damage -at that point,,deny any responsibility as you often do work yourself?
no written record of anything?

Why are you wanting more speed/ power-headers, knowing our trans issue?

fix the oil drain plug first
ask dealer what they would do if it came in with a stripped plug?
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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the TL holds 4.7 qts with a new filter
its 1 qt between the low and full dots

its ok to run .3 qt over full,,but not more than that
a tick over upper dot is fine,,a half inch over is not!!
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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ya im takeing it back in first thing in the morning i think i see a spot on the parking spot right under close to where the drain bolt is. ya i wont feel like risking the chance
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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its ok i hate wasteing oil but if its to save my motor ill do it
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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oil drain plug

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I also brought it in this morning to the place that does my oil changes they said its good and not leaking or whatever and I dont need to worry about it. and the master mech Carlos which is a real cool OG just told me to bring it next oil change and pretty much same stuff yall told me.... lol talk about paranoid about my acura tl thoo... but ya I know what you mean better safe then sorry and no I dont like risking it I dont want to spend alot more money then I already do.... I have put like 46k on it so far in 2 years its been on a few good out of state road trips....I used this car for my Family and my Job so I have to rely on it and its got to be able to keep up with my driving "style" I do my best to just keep it "spirted" driving. I dont ever want to really sell it cause I know I wont want to take the risk on another 2 gen and this is the chosen one, call it a day :P
Sorry about shortening up your original post, but this is the most relevant part and I sense that you now realize the urgency to fix the problem ASAP and not jeopardize your car or family ! Good luck HP X2.3
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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thanks ya i do understand first thing tomorrow its gonna be the first cars in the shop
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 12:48 AM
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I agree with everyone else saying get that shit fixed ASAP!!! And as far as the headers and all that is concerned, dont bother with that for now and get the drain bolt problem fixed first.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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also I been searching craigslist I can call them when they open. Man this aint to bad I have busted oil pans before its just its always labor lol... magic carpet not happy we will fix her tho i really like my car so i do everything she demands n needs. minus cosmetic stuff like paint n etc
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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ok well imma order a new oil pan soon the shop is going to installed the new pan for me. Im probably gonna order it thru honda instead the part number is the exact same. would there any difference in the parts cause ones honda n the other is acura? other then price??
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Just ordered my new oil pan from honda 100.00 shipped should be here shortly. Hopefully they install goes perfectly. I will probably have the master mechanic help me or he will probably be doing the labor. I been thinking of doing a six speed swap but i kinda of just dropped that idea due to the fact that you loose out on the luxury of being able to just chill in the tl.. and I want my wifey to be able to drive the acura in the future if needed. so all I will be doing is Creature comfort mods haha like weather tech accesories and etc maybe a new stereo and tint I think imma give up on the idea of modding the motor and etc. going for ride quality and looks
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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ok so today I went to acura got three qts for 8.13 each amd a 2.00 crush washer which I didnt even replace paid a friend who owns a tire shop 20.00 I tried to break the filler bolt loose but it was on way to tight but ya the fluid was not really pretty kind dark redish color but shifts alot smoother chnaged at 185 k so next sceduled maintance at 215k haha hopefully it make it to 300 would be great
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...or replace oil drain plug with a fumoto drain valve; but you already order oilpan.

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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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...or replace oil drain plug with a fumoto drain valve; but you already order oilpan.
I should of went this route to save me alot of money. Its just it takes a little more patients I guess for the oil to finish pouring out. I really should of just did that or the over size filler bolt. But I figure Im going to try to keep this car for as long as possible and when it comes to my acura money is no object
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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either one of those would have resulted in a major problem still existing
now its fixed
stop doing 3k oil changes!!

shouldnt cost you a dime,,give bill to shop that screwed it up!~
they have a fund and insurance for this type event
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either one of those would have resulted in a major problem still existing
now its fixed
stop doing 3k oil changes!!

shouldnt cost you a dime,,give bill to shop that screwed it up!~
they have a fund and insurance for this type event
ya im going to just drive 5000 miles thru each oil change cause the oil still looks like I can go another 1000 miles plus i usually will change it 3000 or a lil more when they use the barrell oil which I dont mind useing but i rather use the mobile 5000 super which im use to. I just did the Atf change so I should be good for at least another year. btw hopefully my brand new oil pan should be in Today, I orders it thru honda instead of acura the part numbers were the same but haha it was like 4.00 less from honda its just on the honda site it said its for a pilot and on the acura site the part number said its for a cl and tl. will it be the exact same?? Ya I will see if they will install the oil pan free of charge.

I went to the auto salvage yard and manage to score me a sunroof visor off a 99 tl the muffler didnt work but the sunroof visor did. I am a dumb ass I let the Shop put on the tl-p muffler and it didnt mount right they pushed forced it up and put the front muffler rubber hanger on it forced the muffler behind the bumper.. I got real sick yesterday i think it cause i let the car idle when warming up and the exhaust fumes couldnt really escape so what I did last night cause I was paranoid of CO poisoning I took it off that front rubber hanger and pulled it down kinda and used two hand towels and rolled it up and space it more downwards to where the tip of the muffler is below the back bumper... til i can order my new muffler or axle backs...

I couldnt not figure if it was just a sudden cold or flu. but yesterday when i got to work i had a migraine and a sore throat and was sick as a dog next day im feeling alot better no headacke but def still got a cough. Im a big baby when it comes to crap whaaeeew whaaweww lol haha I just dont want anyone riding in my car in danger so I just rather be safe then sorry. I had a friend get knocked out by exhaust fumes in his nissan sentra ser turbo knocked him out and he curbed right as he got inside of apt

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 03:09 AM
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HondaProtege, your shit is hilarious. Shop routed your "new" TLP mufflers inside your bumper?
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Yeh man, just keep the windows down and hang your head out for some fresh air....just don't bark at the other cars !
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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lol barkin arf arf arrf maybe the y pipe could be bent is my next guess. it would suck to get new axle back n it still be bent. i might just order some exhaust tips and get them welded with a new y pipe
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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i had to turn my acura into a mugen cause shes so bad.

https://acurazine.com/forums/album.p...0&ref=gnr-next

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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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ya I just think I was paranoid its all good now I just came down with a terrible cold worst for these past 5 years West nile is going around rampant....

Im going to upgrade my exhaust or buy a oem muffler and get 3 a racing tips,

My oil pan just came in from Honda. Bought it from Honda parts unlimited 4.00 cheaper then acura parts site I enter the Part number and google it go it for 89.71 plus 10.00 shipping so rounded out 100 not to bad haha a good pick sense I need it...

Looked at the Oil pan today and what all I will need to take off, up while on the lift saw some oil resedue but didnt see any coming from the Drain bolt its self but maybe it can be leaking as im driving who knows but I know I been keeping an eye on the oil levels and it seems perfect, The owner of the shop told me its going to be 50% of what the master mech quotes me in the morning haha I hope he says 100.00 lol I will throw him a 20 dollar bill if he does a perfect job on the install. I also picked up some hondabond so Im good to go hopefully everything goes perfectly for my acura :P

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