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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Cylinder Misfire

I was driving in traffic the other day and all of a sudden I felt a shudder and the car started running very rough. When I press on the gas the shudder gets worse and it seems like one of the cylinders are not firing. If I step on the gas hard the check engine light flashes. I checked the plugs and there are no miscolorations and there is no oil on the plugs. Could it possibly be an ignition coil or an injector? Is there a way to trouble shoot this problem. I dont have a tool to plug into the computer.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Is the Check engine light on at all or does it only flash? If its on you can get the code read and find out what one is the cause of it.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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it may be bad gas. Did you fill up recently before this event?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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The check engine light has stayed on since I have a bad cat, but the car ran fine. Now flashes on moderate acceleration. I didnt fill up around that time, and I have since put more gas in it.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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I dont have a code reader. How can I get the trouble code?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Help anyone??
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Autozone or similar will pull the codes for free.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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That will work. Thanks.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Well driving around with a bad cat isnt good either. It will cause the computer to really try to compensate. Get whats wrong fixed. CEL's arent just dummy lights. They mean something is wrong and needs to be fixed. Prolonged driving with it on can lead to/cause other things to fail. Just because it seems to be driving properly doesnt mean it is

Most auto parts stores read codes for free
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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Point taken. I will check it out on my way home from work. Thanks.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Get the codes read and let us know what they are, we should be able to answer any questions then
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Start with a new cat and some Seafoam
Could be plugged exhaust and that can be REALLY bad thing!!
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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If everything else is OK, and the cat is plugged because the car is only ever driven short trips, then you may be able to unplug it by getting the cat hot enough to burn off the deposits clogging it. Tow a trailer, or load it up with weight, then do freeway speeds up the biggest hill you can find for a while. This will get the exhaust gases hot enough to do the trick. Watch the temp gage while you do this to avoid other problems.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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The trouble codes are all cylinders misfiring except cylinder 1 and the O2 sensor in the cat. The car doesnt really do many short trips...I doubt the cat is plugged but I do have a lot of miles so who knows.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothrideronli
The check engine light has stayed on since I have a bad cat, but the car ran fine. Now flashes on moderate acceleration. I didnt fill up around that time, and I have since put more gas in it.
How do you know it's bad? Do you mean fluffy shat in the gas tank? I know, not funny...
Let's back up...
You said in traffic... So it idles roughly? How does it run at cruise?
If it's only at idle or small throttle openings, a common cause is a stuck EGR valve causing a vacuum leak.
If it's all the time, that points more towards a problem with the ignition system.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Odds are you have just 1 coilpack bad. Buy 1 new one and replace just 1 at a time till that code is gone
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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How do you know it's bad? Do you mean fluffy shat in the gas tank? I know, not funny...
Let's back up...
You said in traffic... So it idles roughly? How does it run at cruise?
If it's only at idle or small throttle openings, a common cause is a stuck EGR valve causing a vacuum leak.
If it's all the time, that points more towards a problem with the ignition system.
I took it to a mechanic who checked the trouble code and he told me the cat was bad. Now after reading the trouble zones at Autozone maybe it was just the O2 sensor in the cat. It runs rough at all times...it just happen to start when I was in traffic. It runs like if you disconnected one of your plug wires. I am thinking it is ignition related as well and the engine misfiring trouble codes seem to point towards that.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Odds are you have just 1 coilpack bad. Buy 1 new one and replace just 1 at a time till that code is gone
I was hoping it would be something like that...but would it cause trouble codes in 4 other cylinders as well?
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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If it's ignition, the misfire means there's more o2 getting to the sensor than it expects, so it would throw that code. Don't replace the o2 sensor unless it still throws the code after you've fixed the miss and the codes have been reset.
Kris is the expert, I'm going with him on the coil pack.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i would do what chris suggested. coil pack.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Thanks guys. I will keep you posted.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothrideronli
I was hoping it would be something like that...but would it cause trouble codes in 4 other cylinders as well?
Yes. For some reason on our cars 1 usually triggers all 6. )2 sensors have been known to trigger it as well
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Ok I am off to buy a coil and swap them one by one. I will let you guys know the results.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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So I go to the dealer to buy a coil and I run into a friend that works there. He has the mechanic look at my car before I buy the coils and the mechanic turns up another trouble code...the EGR and the mechanic thinks that is the source of all of the problems. I am waiting to get a price on repair. What do you guys think?
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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I go to Ebay and buy a coil on a hunch and low and behold it solves the rough running problem. I still need to change my O2 sensor which is on its way but al least its running like a new machine. Thanks for the advice guys.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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The O2 sensor probably doesn't need to be replaced.
The miss was causing it to throw that code.
Reset the codes, the O2 code should go away.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sandynmike
The O2 sensor probably doesn't need to be replaced.
The miss was causing it to throw that code.
Reset the codes, the O2 code should go away.

The O2 sensor actually was bad before the misfire.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothrideronli
I go to Ebay and buy a coil on a hunch and low and behold it solves the rough running problem. I still need to change my O2 sensor which is on its way but al least its running like a new machine. Thanks for the advice guys.
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