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ok,i must of been daydreaming when i read that part.It does say i can use the trans just doesnt tell me what to do with the coolant lines that used to run to the warmer,but ill ask the guy that done this swap already.Thank you
ok,i must of been daydreaming when i read that part.It does say i can use the trans just doesnt tell me what to do with the coolant lines that used to run to the warmer,but ill ask the guy that done this swap already.Thank you
If you can connect the coolant lines then I would go for it. Thats just for cooling and warming the trans fluid. Assuming everything else is the same.
I didnt find any holes in mine that werent already tapped so i believe i got lucky on that one.In going today to get some trans fluid from honda to put in my torque converter and the reducing coupler for those hoses so hopefully ill have the ody trans in this evening.Ill keep you guys up to date on my progress.
Got the ody trans in and everything put back together.I put a total of 7 quarts of dw-1 in the trans,thats including the 1 I put in the torque converter before installing.I reused all solenoids and sensors from the tl trans except one sensor on the very front bottom of the trans that got broke when i was removing the tl trans.After the car reaches operating temp the dipstick shows im in the middle of the two dots.The lines running to the aftermarket trans cooler are both still cold as though they dont have fluid flowing.I put it in gear and get no reaction from the car at all.Does anyone know anything i should check before i just go ahead and pull this trans back out?It acts like its not even trying to move almost like i didnt even shift it into gear or reverse.I checked all solenoid screens and valves that were in the old trans and everything was spotless and fluid smelled good so I was leaning toward it being a good trans. ????????
Used tl range switch.I hooked up shift cable.If it was out of adjustment wouldnt it kick into gear somewhere in the range of shifting the shifter or is there some sensor that keeps it from doing so?Axles are connected.Im leaning toward no atf flow so im gonna pull one of the lines off the aftermarket cooler and see if i have flow.
Make sure the cable is not broken some how. Get visual confirmation that the shift lever is physically moving the shift arm at the trans under the hood.
I would run the car to lubricate the trans just incase it's bone dry. It might take a while to saturate everything again.
Im thinking im actually still low on fluid cause i drained as much fluid out of the torque converter as would come out by turning upside down for a day and ive only put 7 quarts back in.Opinions?They hold 9 or so dont they?Ill go check fuses now.
Been running for about 15 minutes and the level hasnt dropped but its still cold as is the lines going to and from the cooler.Will one quart cause it not to move at all?
It was running about 30 minutes and everythings still cold.Ive shifted through the gears and gave it gas.The dipstick still shows just above the first dot.I will put another quart or a little less in tomorrow and im gonna check the line going to the filter and see if the filter has had any fluid flow through it either.
The trans was empty and i drained everything i could get out of the torque converter by turning it upside down for a whole day and then put 1 quart in tq before reinstalling it and put 6 more quarts in trans after installing it in the car.
The torque converter dropped all the way in and im not sure if the pump is damaged or not.Is there some way to test the pump without pulling the trans back out?
Here's the procedure for doing pressure tests on the AT transmission. Keep in mind these instructions are for the 5-speed AT that come with the TL. I'm not sure how different these instructions may be for the '04 Ody trans.
BTW - since you got your Ody trans for so cheap you might consider starting from a clean slate and buy new shift solenoids and pressure switches.
EDIT: You mentioned you broke a sensor on the Ody trans and replaced it with your TL sensor. Which sensor was that?
I broke the one on the tl trans and had to use the ody switch.I kept all switches and solenoids fromt the tl trans cause that trans worked just had 3rd gear going out.
Its definetly a pumping problem.Checked the fluid after the car has set all night and the fluid is the same level whether the cars running,cold,warm or hasnt ran for hours.Looks like its coming back out to figure out if its the tq or pump or something clogged.
Full disclosure I'm quite inexperienced with Transmissions. But it sounds like you could have a problem with the regulator valve. Or your ATF strainer could be clogged - but if so, then you would have more serious problems.
Here is the complete list of possible causes for your car not going into gear:
* Low ATF
* Shift cable broken or out of adjustment
* Shift cable worn
* ATF pump worn or binding (your trans would probably be making noise or whining)
* Regulator valve stuck or spring worn
* ATF strainer clogged (like I said, if this is the case something broke inside and just get a new trans)
* Mainshaft worn or damaged
* Final gears worn or damaged
* Transmission to engine assembly error (if torque converter is improperly aligned you'll get a ticking noise at high rpm or high pitched squeak)
* Axle disengaged
My opinion at this point: I would get the tools together to do the pressure test that I shared above. If you get 0psi at all ports then I would dump this transmission and start again with a different one. If you've only paid $120 so far you're lightyears ahead of most other people who've gone down the AV6 route so keep your chin up.
Does anyone know how hard it is and what kind of specialty tools are needed to take these transmissions apart?I can buy an accord trans with a broken case but good internals and converter for $150 and get a case for $75.Is this something that can be done by the average mechanic?
Looks can be deceiving. Hiram is a master trans builder. Thats all he does all day long.
This will be your first time. There's a big difference. between watching someone doing it vs doing it yourself. Keep in mine that video was edited. So the time is unrealistic.
The only bad thing for someone trying something for the first time is if something is not right they will probably not be able to recognise it due to the lack of experience. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck on this endeavor. :ni nja:
Kudos to you tatertot for your courage and willingness to tackle this, best of luck to you and keep us updated on your progress. Hope you get a chance to finally enjoy your TL.
I rebuilt an auto trans in auto tech class but it was a rear wheel drive th350.Does anyone know perhaps if the 2000 tl trans dipstick and the 2004 ody are identical?Wandering if maybe the tube is shorter on one and my dipstick is reading wrong.
10-22-2015, 05:22 PM
I've only heard of the AV6
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