ABS Modulator
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Coming home from work my, ! VSA and ABS lights came on.
I went to the dealer right away for codes.
Turns out its my Modulator pump and this thing is not cheap.
I've found allot of people having trouble with just sensor's but dosen't look that way for me.
Anyway, I drive an 02-S wondering if finding one on ebay or junkyard and trying it myself is worth it. Anyone try this or had this done?
I went to the dealer right away for codes.
Turns out its my Modulator pump and this thing is not cheap.
I've found allot of people having trouble with just sensor's but dosen't look that way for me.
Anyway, I drive an 02-S wondering if finding one on ebay or junkyard and trying it myself is worth it. Anyone try this or had this done?
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Look for a used one and have a independent mechanic install it
Use this to locate one
http://car-part.com/
Use this to locate one
http://car-part.com/
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Just found one for 85$ with a 6 month warranty 20mins away from where I work. It came off a TL with only 60k on it. Sweet deal I think
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So I'm gonna try to install this myself 1st. If I can't do it I'll pay someone. At least I'm saving on the part, big-time.
Guy at the parts place was surprised it went bad. Which I hope means this rarely happens to our cars.
Thanks for the helpful link fsttyms1.
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most likely your brake fluid was never changed in 6 years
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
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most likely your brake fluid was never changed in 6 years
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
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I've had my brakes serviced as recommended. Including full flushes.etc. I don't think in my case this was the issue. I will check my calipers when I get this done, thanks for the tip. Hopefully those are still ok.
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most likely your brake fluid was never changed in 6 years
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
Moisture gets in the fluid and is pushed into the the abs controller and to the calipers
causing expensive destruction--
I constantly warn people of this issue and what happens
I would check the calipers NOW!!!- do a fluid push and see what comes out the bleeders
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Everyone who has not flushed the brake fluid in more than 12 months--or ever...
do it now- simple DIY- improved pedal feel and brake response-
shops only charge 50-90 for it,, thats worth it too if you are not into working on your car
do it now- simple DIY- improved pedal feel and brake response-
shops only charge 50-90 for it,, thats worth it too if you are not into working on your car
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some of us like to work on our cars
removing 2 front wheels for easier access to the bleeder nipple/screw isnt much effort
Most rims leave plenty of room to work on the rear calipers without removing the tire
A gullible friend can do the pump and hold method, or buy your own vac bleeder tool if you own a few cars or help buddies from acurazine.
45-60 minutes 1st timers diy
removing 2 front wheels for easier access to the bleeder nipple/screw isnt much effort
Most rims leave plenty of room to work on the rear calipers without removing the tire
A gullible friend can do the pump and hold method, or buy your own vac bleeder tool if you own a few cars or help buddies from acurazine.
45-60 minutes 1st timers diy
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Just picked it up. Part looks easy enough to do myself. My only question is, bleed the brakes 1st then install new pump? Or new install new pump then bleed? Hope that's not as dumb as a question I think it is....
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Install new part--then bleed,,assuming you have to open a brake line to install the part,,that allows air in
Order is LF = driver front then clockwise around the car LF RF RR LR
Plan on doing it fully twice to be sure all the air bubbles are out
Per the book-Then go out on a safe road and at 45 mph apply max effort braking to engage the ABS
come to a stop and quickly accellerate to 45 mph and repeat the max effort- abs engaged braking to stop
IF the 2nd time gave a firmer pedal feel, you still had air in the controller, no sweat
rebleed the system and the air will be waiting in a caliper- probably the LF but do a full bleed all around to be sure
Takes 1 qt of dot4 brake fluid to flush normally, plus a bit for the controller
buy 3 to be safe
Order is LF = driver front then clockwise around the car LF RF RR LR
Plan on doing it fully twice to be sure all the air bubbles are out
Per the book-Then go out on a safe road and at 45 mph apply max effort braking to engage the ABS
come to a stop and quickly accellerate to 45 mph and repeat the max effort- abs engaged braking to stop
IF the 2nd time gave a firmer pedal feel, you still had air in the controller, no sweat
rebleed the system and the air will be waiting in a caliper- probably the LF but do a full bleed all around to be sure
Takes 1 qt of dot4 brake fluid to flush normally, plus a bit for the controller
buy 3 to be safe
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Install new part--then bleed,,assuming you have to open a brake line to install the part,,that allows air in
Order is LF = driver front then clockwise around the car LF RF RR LR
Plan on doing it fully twice to be sure all the air bubbles are out
Per the book-Then go out on a safe road and at 45 mph apply max effort braking to engage the ABS
come to a stop and quickly accellerate to 45 mph and repeat the max effort- abs engaged braking to stop
IF the 2nd time gave a firmer pedal feel, you still had air in the controller, no sweat
rebleed the system and the air will be waiting in a caliper- probably the LF but do a full bleed all around to be sure
Takes 1 qt of dot4 brake fluid to flush normally, plus a bit for the controller
buy 3 to be safe
Order is LF = driver front then clockwise around the car LF RF RR LR
Plan on doing it fully twice to be sure all the air bubbles are out
Per the book-Then go out on a safe road and at 45 mph apply max effort braking to engage the ABS
come to a stop and quickly accellerate to 45 mph and repeat the max effort- abs engaged braking to stop
IF the 2nd time gave a firmer pedal feel, you still had air in the controller, no sweat
rebleed the system and the air will be waiting in a caliper- probably the LF but do a full bleed all around to be sure
Takes 1 qt of dot4 brake fluid to flush normally, plus a bit for the controller
buy 3 to be safe
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if doing the manual pedal pump and hold method--place a small piece of 2x4 wood block under the brake pedal arm inside the car- limiting its travel to 3/4 of full to the floor.
Thats the normal operating range and where the seal is used to working in.
Work safe = save money!
Thats the normal operating range and where the seal is used to working in.
Work safe = save money!
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check in the DIY section
flushing the brakes has been described over and over
flushing the brakes has been described over and over
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Well after a long day its all fixed up. Hardest part was getting the brakeline nuts off the old abs system. Those suckers where tough
. Installed the 'new' system, started the car and like magic the warning lights were off.![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Next was bleeding. Wow that part sucks, I never want to do this myself again lol. It all worked out just fine in the end. Pedal feels great and all is well.
I had no camera for pics on the install at my brothers place. But it was pretty simple to do. Remove the old, pop in the new,etc.
Next step is pick something up for my brother for being such a huge help.
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Next was bleeding. Wow that part sucks, I never want to do this myself again lol. It all worked out just fine in the end. Pedal feels great and all is well.
I had no camera for pics on the install at my brothers place. But it was pretty simple to do. Remove the old, pop in the new,etc.
Next step is pick something up for my brother for being such a huge help.
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if you have never done it before it may seem like a lot of work pumping the pedal,,but thats what brothers are for!!
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