Who Has A 2nd Gen TL supercharged
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Who Has A 2nd Gen TL supercharged
Hey Guys,
I'm looking to get some info on how much power our TL will make with a comptech supercharger kit on... I have spent hours searching and i haven't wound much. Mainly looking to see what WHP and TQ we can make with this kit on.
Any info would help thanks guys!
I'm looking to get some info on how much power our TL will make with a comptech supercharger kit on... I have spent hours searching and i haven't wound much. Mainly looking to see what WHP and TQ we can make with this kit on.
Any info would help thanks guys!
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0HP if the transmission fails.
that will be your biggest problem. the 2nd gen TL tranny isnt stout to begin with and FAILS with stock power. Let alone, adding an additional 30-40hp will kill it quickly.
swap a six speed manual tranny in the car and it will automatically make the car faster and more reliable.
that will be your biggest problem. the 2nd gen TL tranny isnt stout to begin with and FAILS with stock power. Let alone, adding an additional 30-40hp will kill it quickly.
swap a six speed manual tranny in the car and it will automatically make the car faster and more reliable.
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i think comptech had dyno numbers on their site for the auto. I just checked their site and it says 40-60whp depending on the application. So it's probably 40 for auto, 60 for 6speed. I'm guessing you gain about 40wtq as well. There are dynos on the CL side (dyno section) you could look up.
You're better off throwing in a J35A3 with an accord trans. and staying N/A.
You're better off throwing in a J35A3 with an accord trans. and staying N/A.
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0HP if the transmission fails.
that will be your biggest problem. the 2nd gen TL tranny isnt stout to begin with and FAILS with stock power. Let alone, adding an additional 30-40hp will kill it quickly.
swap a six speed manual tranny in the car and it will automatically make the car faster and more reliable.
that will be your biggest problem. the 2nd gen TL tranny isnt stout to begin with and FAILS with stock power. Let alone, adding an additional 30-40hp will kill it quickly.
swap a six speed manual tranny in the car and it will automatically make the car faster and more reliable.
😂 Right, if the trans go's then 0 everything... for now the car will stay a auto till I find a 6speed swap..
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i think comptech had dyno numbers on their site for the auto. I just checked their site and it says 40-60whp depending on the application. So it's probably 40 for auto, 60 for 6speed. I'm guessing you gain about 40wtq as well. There are dynos on the CL side (dyno section) you could look up.
You're better off throwing in a J35A3 with an accord trans. and staying N/A.
You're better off throwing in a J35A3 with an accord trans. and staying N/A.
thanks for for the info I just saw the same numbers on the website... not building a race car but I'd like to add a little more power to it. Only reason I'm doing this is because I got a great deal on a complete SC kit. So I couldn't pass this deal.
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I would do a 6MT swap before the SC
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The Comptech SC kit with a custom pulley will make some impressive power. The kits caught a lot of flack for being conservative but in base form it would not void the factory Honda warranty. It was also said that the m-62 was to small for a J35A3 which is not the case at all. It is however, a positive displacement blower so you will not see big boost numbers, but the kit with added supporting mods is more than capable of getting you in the 400 whp range.
As for the trans, pick your poison, (6-speed, AV6, built TL) that is solely up to you. The Auto trans with the right components used can handle the task (change fluid regularly).
As for the trans, pick your poison, (6-speed, AV6, built TL) that is solely up to you. The Auto trans with the right components used can handle the task (change fluid regularly).
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The Comptech SC kit with a custom pulley will make some impressive power. The kits caught a lot of flack for being conservative but in base form it would not void the factory Honda warranty. It was also said that the m-62 was to small for a J35A3 which is not the case at all. It is however, a positive displacement blower so you will not see big boost numbers, but the kit with added supporting mods is more than capable of getting you in the 400 whp range.
As for the trans, pick your poison, (6-speed, AV6, built TL) that is solely up to you. The Auto trans with the right components used can handle the task (change fluid regularly).
As for the trans, pick your poison, (6-speed, AV6, built TL) that is solely up to you. The Auto trans with the right components used can handle the task (change fluid regularly).
I will have to get a custom pulley made since the one that comes with the SC kit is I think only 7-8 psi... I'd like to do 10psi with all my bolts on's and see what numbers I get. For now I will be on my stock auto trans.. long term plan is to get a CL 6 speed trans 👌.
I will need to dyno the car car now with what I have to see the difference since the SC is on the car
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no the stock pulley that comes with the kit is 3.5psi. The high boost pulley (HBP) is about 6psi. Anything more than the regular pulley will require tuning and removal of the comptech ESM. Start with the regular pulley and go from there. I don't think your trans will hold up very long though so have some trans money ready.
One member years ago made 369whp/310wtq on 7-8 psi with a top mount intercooler. I would suggest some cooling - water/meth or intercooler - if going above the regular pulley. My intake temps get pretty high on the regular pulley.
South Florida Pulley will make a custom pulley.
One member years ago made 369whp/310wtq on 7-8 psi with a top mount intercooler. I would suggest some cooling - water/meth or intercooler - if going above the regular pulley. My intake temps get pretty high on the regular pulley.
South Florida Pulley will make a custom pulley.
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no the stock pulley that comes with the kit is 3.5psi. The high boost pulley (HBP) is about 6psi. Anything more than the regular pulley will require tuning and removal of the comptech ESM. Start with the regular pulley and go from there. I don't think your trans will hold up very long though so have some trans money ready.
One member years ago made 369whp/310wtq on 7-8 psi with a top mount intercooler. I would suggest some cooling - water/meth or intercooler - if going above the regular pulley. My intake temps get pretty high on the regular pulley.
South Florida Pulley will make a custom pulley.
One member years ago made 369whp/310wtq on 7-8 psi with a top mount intercooler. I would suggest some cooling - water/meth or intercooler - if going above the regular pulley. My intake temps get pretty high on the regular pulley.
South Florida Pulley will make a custom pulley.
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The ESM will be fine with a HBP but you will have to turn the fuel pressure up. The need for tuning comes when you cool the charge air, the ECU can not compensate because it needs a lot more fuel with the denser air. The high intake temps cause the ECU to pull timing and protect the motor. If you can loose the cat do so and run a 3" exhaust to help keep cylinder temps safe. Removing the fog light or dummy duct will help lower intake air temps also. If you keep an eye on the fuel pressure and AFRs while you get the fuel pressure set you will be fine with the HBP on ESM. Had my pulleys cut by South Florida Pulley, they are awesome!
I don't think you'd have to tune if you put on a front mount air-air intercooler would you? If the engine can compensate for the s/c why can't it handle the same thing but with cooler air?
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I had 2 HBPs cut by South FL Pulley, Boostedorbusted is running one on his 3.5 and I have not put mine on yet. Not sure of his fuel pressure but hes is only using the ESM with no issues.
When you cool the charge air it becomes denser and requires more fuel. This is where the Greddy Blue and some big injectors comes into play. The ESM and FMU is only good below a fuel pressure of 90-100 psi at which point the injectors become failure prone and the chances of running lean are great. For fuel economy these engines are designed to operate with a high intake air temp and with the FMU artificially adding fuel the ECU stays happy.
When you cool the charge air it becomes denser and requires more fuel. This is where the Greddy Blue and some big injectors comes into play. The ESM and FMU is only good below a fuel pressure of 90-100 psi at which point the injectors become failure prone and the chances of running lean are great. For fuel economy these engines are designed to operate with a high intake air temp and with the FMU artificially adding fuel the ECU stays happy.
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Comptech Supercharger | eBay
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Here's one, you might be able to fit it to your 2G CL if it is a manual trans:
Comptech Supercharger | eBay
Comptech Supercharger | eBay
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CT-E's standard alt. pulley originally included with the S/C'er kit on the left, high boost alt. pulley supplied separately on the right.
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