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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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need help with intake

i just bought a cold air intake for my 2003 acura tl type s and installed it. But these past few week it been raining a lot and the street i take to the college and the hospital have been kind of flooding so i took off the cai. i was wondering if a short ram for my acura tl type s is ok because i do not want the cai to suck up water since its near the bottom of the car. thanks ahead for all the help
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Yea its ok,
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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really ? because i was going to sell or return my cai and get a short ram
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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its going to suck up hot air from the engine. it might sound cool, but you'll lose power.
search around this site, and you'll see what most people are doing.

the only time the CAI will suck up water is if you intentionally go into those floods.
if you see high water, simply do not drive into it.

for the water to get sucked up, the filter has to be SUBMERGED in standing water.
I would never drive my car into water that touches my bumpers. take a different route, or wait it out.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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i see well when the hospital call i kind of have to go get there as soon as i can or can i make my own cai and make it shorter
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sylent316
i see well when the hospital call i kind of have to go get there as soon as i can or can i make my own cai and make it shorter
sure.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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you can remove the cai- put the stock air filter box back in
install a K&N filter in the box
Now you have inlets at bottem of airbox that are almost as high as the door handles!
Would you drive thru that deep a puddle and expect the car to not flood?
as long as you keep it reasonable it will be fine

see the amount of drain vents on the lower splash guard- that works to protect the air filter box from flooding
The cubic foot air mass stored in that inner fender area actually works well to provide air on demand, and provides outside air via the front lower grill
99-01 can cut the driver side fake foglight opening to get even more direct air in
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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have you ever heard of prefilters? basically those are covers for the intake filter itself. and they do a pretty darn good job of keeping the intake filter dry. how do i know this? i used to have an injen cai for my 03 tl-s with prefilters, and i still have it with me right now. but i went through many HUGE puddles.. and my whole engine was wet once i raised the hood, but my intake was still dry and i had nothing to worry about. it's a good investment considering it's only $40.

they look like this:


hydroshield brand is specifically made for injen filters


outerwears are made for other brands such as aem.. etc.

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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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I highly doubt that your going to drive through a puddle of water, I take that your stock height also??
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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unless you fully submerge your filter in a "puddle" then thats when you'll have to worry...
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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obviously, you won't be driving into a flooded area if you see one unless you are..............
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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i see buy i kit to lower it soon
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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what?

your going to buy a kit and lower ur car soon?
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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cold air intake short ram

hey i seen on a thread that som guy said that if u put a short ram that it well decrease power and speed is this tru if soo why do so many ppl doo it ?? i was gonna get one for my t.l
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Because people dont care about power and speed? our car isnt meant to race.... only reason why people do it cause short rams have more a roar, and people dont have to worrry about driving through puddles, but cold airs do add gas milage if you dont floor it every time just to hear the sound
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Listen. Unless you fully submerge your filter you wont have a problem with "puddles" or heavy rain. The filter is protected really well from water, especially when moving. If you intend to drive your car into water that is a foot deep you dont deserve to be driving.


I did this (stupid yes but i tend to do stuff like that) with a CAI. My filter was bone dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvqc6wcng_g
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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a short ram gets air from inside the engine compartment = warmed up air
a full cai to the front gets outside air = cooler air than engine area

the resonator box removal you do for cai install, doing just that and leave the stock airbox = gathers cooler air from outside AND stores a large volume of it in the inner fender,
and has the filter up good and high for extra safety

If you accidentally end up in STUCK a puddle 3-4 feet deep- forget the car! swim to save your life!!! the electronics at floor level will be ruined before you can hydrolock the engine
Thats why you carry comprehensive coverage

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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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seriously people... you won't hydrolock

you can see i had NO fender lining or under carriage plastic crap..

and i've driven to these.. "omfg im gonna hydrolock puddles" and it drove fine.



just be smart about it....
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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the plastic lining in my TL, right underneath the intake filter, has somehow been torn off, leaving the filter pretty much open to the environment. one day it rained heavily and there were 4 inch puddles everywhere. i ran into quite a few. when i finally parked, car idled at 1000, huffed and puffed a few times and then all was well. if your lining isnt ripped and you can avoid hitting 20 puddles in a single commute, hydrolocking is seriously not a problem.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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hmm thanks everyone but for right now i will leave the short ram on because its winter and its rains alot because its the rainy season and there are large amount of puddles by the hospital, but during the dry season i will put back on the cold air thanks everyone.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
unless you fully submerge your filter in a "puddle" then thats when you'll have to worry...
2 of my friends (RSX-S and Civic Si ) both hydrolocked by hitting a small puddle about 3" deep. And both had the Injen hydroshield.
So it's more about getting lucky

And this is the reason why I'm gonna get the CT icebox. haha
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by swllen_cu
2 of my friends (RSX-S and Civic Si ) both hydrolocked by hitting a small puddle about 3" deep. And both had the Injen hydroshield.
So it's more about getting lucky

And this is the reason why I'm gonna get the CT icebox. haha
Are they dropped very low?
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Are they dropped very low?
2-2.5".

I mean who on this site isn't dropped at least 2 inches?
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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ok i just reinstall my short ram today and its been making this clicking sound and a like a hissing sound. is that just the intake or something else? while take video later
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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I ate 2 bad puddles the other day during heavy rain, (car's really low too) Car ate some water, but it just burnt off into the exhaust. I made a cool smoke screen too. I felt like James Bond.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by swllen_cu
2 of my friends (RSX-S and Civic Si ) both hydrolocked by hitting a small puddle about 3" deep. And both had the Injen hydroshield.
So it's more about getting lucky

And this is the reason why I'm gonna get the CT icebox. haha
Im going to have to call BS. It would have to suck in water. Hitting a puddle wouldnt do it. Unless they had the filter in a position to be dragging in the water. Look at my video posted above. There is enough plastic protecting the filter it shouldnt get wet. Mine was bone dry.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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fsttyms1 - Did you take that vid in the parking lot of the old Kmart?
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