Hey I'm new on these thing.
I'm thinking get cold air intake.
What is the different between cold air intake and short ram air?
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...641+115+400407
They're looks the same on the pic
Is it the filter for cold air intake goes behind the bumper, and the filter for short ram air goes under the hood?
Which one better?
I know the guys selling the cold air (AEM part #22-416).
But isn't that the short ram air (AEM part #22-416)?
Will it fit for the 03 tl-p?
Say on the description "AEM Cold Air Intake system for Honda Accord V6 1998 - 2002, Acura CL 2001 - 2003 and Acura TL 2000 - 2002"

 

Welcome to the community bro...

Short ram intake replaces your restrictive stock intake with a short pipe and cone filter that extends out into your engine bay. The cone filter sits in a pool of hot air, thus limiting the potential of gains from the intake. A Cold air intake (often called long ram) is a longer pipe that extends your air filter to the lower portion of your radiator support/front inner fender. The relocation allows the cone filter to capture cold, more dense air as your car travels down the road. Because cooler air has more density for a given volume, cold air intakes generally work by introducing cooler air from outside the hot engine bay. Thus, a cold air intake is superior to a short ram due to the fact that is picks up colder air.

As to purchase...forget summit racing and pick up an AEM long ram like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-A...spagenameZWDVW from a vendor on eBay for under $230. This mod should net around 6-8 HP to the wheels.

 

I would suggest getting the CAI also due to the benificial side of it, however, it has been discussed numerous times in the forum CAI vs SRI & quite simply boils down to what you plan to do to your car. Personally, I'll be purchasing headers soon & the CAI afterwards or viceversa whichever I decide I'll do first. GL on what you will decide to do though... Oh, & if you'd like, check out the BM for parts that others have for sale & if you can't find what you like, you can always check out our vendors on the other side of the BM. I'm sure they'd appreciate the business & the support....

 

Major drawback to cold air intake is that it greatly increases the likelihood of water damage to your engine if you ever drive through deep water. AEM and K&M have engineered bypass valves which activate when the sense a change in air pressure inside the intake pipe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-2...QQcmdZViewItem
This is basically a rubber plunger that stops the water from entering the pipe and into the engine. Highly recommended if you live in a climate prone to heavy rain or flash floods.

 

You have to drive through a hell of a lot of water to hydrolock an engine. Its unlikely, but I suppose if you aim for that 8 inch deep puddle, it might happen. Go with the cold air, the short ram is a waste of money.

 

AEM V2 and don't look back. You'll love it everytime you get on the throttle especially above 4krpm.... hehe
(Don't drive through a lake or do burnouts in a puddle and you'll be fine)

 

The fenderwells are solid, so technically you could do that and it wouldnt get water anywhere near the filter. Hes right about the lake tho, bad idea lol.

 

What is the different between the AEM V2 and the regular cold air intake?
ALso my wife cars is 03 tl-p.
Can I get the CAI for the type-s?
Is there any different between the type-s and tl-p?

 

i believe the intake manifold is a bit different on the tl-p, but not to the point of making a difference in fit. AEM V2 features a unilateral width intake pipe. Intake starts wide than gets narrower towards the throttle body, like this:




Apparently the size change forces more air into the intake manifold. AEM regular is a single width pipe like this:

 

Thank-s guys for the help...

 

like others have already said, go with a cai. please don't waste your time and money on a short ram. i don't get why people get them in the first place. if you have a tl-p, i woud get the v2. you will not be disappointed. that's just my advice.

 

How much louder is the CAE than the stock intake?

 

Other than a little hissing, you don't even hear it unless you are on the gas kinda hard. It growls considerably louder than stock when you get on it.

 

I just got an 03 TL Type S a month ago and it was recommended to me to do the CAI first. This thread just helped me decide to do it. I appreciate the input. What is a recommended Brand besides AEM? I have seen INJEN out there are there any others that anyone would recommend?

 

I just read that the AEM V2 does not fit on the Type S. The link below is where I got the info from.




http://www.performancecenter.com/pro...A/2003/TL/3.2L

 

Injen all the way

 

you are absolutely right about that. the aem V2 will not fit the type s b/c the throttle body is a different size.

many people have gone with the aem or injen, and both companies make great products. i can't speak for injen, but i've been running an aem with dryflow and i love it. it's one mod that everyone should have and it's easy to do yourself.

 

Injen FTW

 

what's the difference between a cheap cai/shortram from one with a brand name? Honestly I don't see the difference, except the sticker and ridiculous price.

 

honestly, you can get whatever you want (i.e. generic brand intake). some people will say that there is absolutely no difference. i beg to difffer on the other hand. when you buy an aem or injen, it's guaranteed to fit and line up. the quality of the parts are also better.

i'm not a big fan of buying generic knock-offs b/c in the end, you'll have to invest in a better one.

 

Well said. The finish is a lot better too.

 

^I'm not trying to argue with both of you guys, but what are some of things that are better. Obviously the quality of the materials is better.. would it be something like the heat transfering through the intake pipe? Better filter? And like you said, better fitment?

The main thing I don't understand is how some intakes are cheaper on newer cars. The 99-03 TL's are old cars. What's up with the price? $250+ for some tubing.. WATT

If quality is told in the price, what's up with XS header vs. Comptech header.. Huge price difference.. yet the XS is a good header and most people have them. I guess I have no choice but to get injen or aem...

 

The main advantages are fit, finish, and quality and thickness of metal.

 

You're still saying quality. please elaborate what is better quality and also how this creates a significant advantage over the "crappier" generic brands.

 

Well, think about it. If the finish isnt as good, it looks like shit. If the fitment is bad, it doesnt fit right, and it could mean rubbing somewhere. (if you are lucky) If the metal is of low quality, it will rub a hole (intake leak) or break the vibramount and create another hole.

Bottom line, you get what you pay for. Dont put cheap shit on an expensive car.

 

Wow....Did you really ask that question ! Thats like saying should i get the hyundai cause its a little bit cheaper. Hellz No ! You pay for what you get ! If the extra few bucks makes a difference, go ahead and buy the cheap shit, but like i said, you will regret it. Maybe modding cars isn't for you buddy ! Maybe stick to stamp collecting. LOL. Very cost efficient !...P.S.... INJEN is way better them AEM. Personally i hate AEM..i use the comptech ice box !!!

 

all knock off brands have taken templates off of the real shit so the fitmet is pretty damn close. where the fitment goes off is due to the people making it and the 50 cents an hour they make. an alum tube is just that no matter who makes it. it doesnt have to withstand high pressure do thickness doesnt come into play. the only thing that really matter like say with an ebay intake is the filter. i would buy and ebay CAI and use a 2.5 inch K&N cone filter. but these guys have a very valid point you get what you pay for. i dont skimp on my car where it counts. you have a luxury car keep it that way.

 

Yeah I'm a dumbass, asking stupid questions. I hope you're getting the 1 hp from the $250 intake numbnuts. It's called the TL doesn't get any significant change. schmuck

 

Seriously this is so stupid. you are paying for a filter and the name. go to a shop or get a piece of piping get a k&n filter and you get the same shit as an AEM or a Injen plus you save money. then again if you are an idiot and believe what adds and people say about what is being better then you deserve to get ripped off.

 

each has their own opinion about things. please don't go around saying this is stupid, etc. i don't mind people expressing their opinions, but i get heated when you're putting others down.

aem, injen, fujita are just some of the most popular intakes on the market. you can go with whatever you want, but ultimately it's what you want. i'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for - bottom line. if a generic intake from ebay only costs $40 and an injen is $200, there is a significan't difference my friend. we can argue over and over about this and go in circles, but that's just my opinion.

 

Unfortunately, there are people who think there's their opinion and all the other opinions which are wrong. They also think by repeatedly posting their opinion it will convince others. When that fails, they revert to tossing around juvenile insults. They are not here to help. That's what the ignore option is for.

 

I was never trying to shit on anyone's $250 "investment".. until azndragon described my question as dumbass.

To LeeDan and MikePA, if you think it's all matter of opinions.. then I'm assuming there is not a HUUUUUGE difference from generic brand and brand name. Honestly though I have nothing against a injen or aem cai.. it's a good buy, you know your going to get quality material. I doubt there is any engineering involved though. Unlike headers and exhaust, which are more complex.

 

Oh really? Huh. I guess I am one big idiot. Thanks for clearing that up. Would you care to explain why then there are complaints for no-name brand users and AEM users for vibramount breakage issues and ZERO complaints from Injen users? You really seem to know whats up sp I though I would ask

 

First of all to StylesInfinite, No one claimed that a cai would give substantial hp gains. We use it to gain a deeper sound and to get better airflow. Not to mention the throttle response is a lot better. I didn't want to start a war by saying it was a dumb ass question, but it was ! You act as if these parts aren't tested and proven. Go see if a piece of crap piping and filter will give you the same results ? In general, doing that would be the same as using the stock box with a kn filter. Which is what i was doing before the ice box. But what do you know, my car feels and breathes likes its stronger ! Also adding the exhaust and headers along with the intake will make a HUGE difference. If you think the 250 wasn't worth it, so be it. But ill still past you and sound better doing it !

 

A-M-E-N

 

That's why I was asking a question in my original post, COT DAMN learn to read. Secondly you're a douche by being such an internet gangster. btw are you really going to past me? serious? go ahead and "past" me. And if you two guys above read my post you guys would have known that I admitted injen and aem are quality companies. And you're a complete idiot for contradicting yourself hahaha read your own post again.

Sound better doing it huh? But seriously I'm glad I'm never going to buy a $250 intake that makes the car sound better.. as you claim. You just proved my point. No performance enhancement... .. Sounds like $250 rice to me.

 

I stand by my claim of:

INJEN FTW!

 

 

 

go buy your ebay intake, and then when its crappily made or it doesnt fit right or both, dont complain on here about it. We'll just say we told you so

Injen FTW