Hey to all,


Just looking for more power from my 99 tl. The bolt ons are a waste of time. tl-s swap 3.5 odyssey, trannys??, zex where to get for cheap? what is the best bang for buck and what is the most effective power gains.

How do i get more power???

 

Buy A Different Car..

 

i forget who but one guy here with a tl-p has every bolt on and easily pulls on type-s models.

if you want extreme power do a turbo or nitrous. a google search for nitrous should help you find the best prices.

SSTS

 

It's Samkws, but I think this guy wants more than a Type-S because even those stock aren't incredibly quick.

If you really want tons of power, you could do a Type-S motor swap for the 260hp engine, and then put in a 6-speed tranny, and then do all the bolt-on with forced induction. If you have the TIME and MONEY!!!! I would really like to do it, but I won't be able to afford it. Good luck.

PS: I love my bolt on

 

You could get the Turbonator and a chip

 

You get more power by buying modifications for the car. It will be hard to suggest something for you if you don't advise how much power you are looking for and how much you are looking to spend. With these cars you have to pay to play ...otherwise if you wanted a faster car with a wide market as far as parts, you should have picked up an evo or something.

 

Well really i think i'm with a 2-5g bankrole. And supercharging this tranny isn't a great idea, zex is what i'm looking for if anyone has a wet zex kit for sale let me know. What bolt ons are good mods?? what chip where do i get it and will it mess up the rest of the car??? Will headers make a big difference, i already removed the catalitic and both resonators installed 2 high flow turbo mufflers and beefed up the diameter 2' 3/4. I find i've lost power since the instalation of my cai. so if anyone has any suggestions please, let me know

 

headers are good for 20+ HP, crank pulley is good for 10 HP, Intake is good for 10 HP, thermoblock spacers and iridium plugs/grounding kit are good for maybe a few horses, exhaust is good for 5 horses in the high RPM band, lightweight wheels will cut around 2/10 off a 1/4 mile. That's basically it unless you go nitrous.

 

I would much rather have a SC than a nitrous kit. And there is no "chip" for our cars.

 

ok so i'll try the pulleys and i already have the iridium(??) plugs. My rims are from the 2004+ tl. buddy keeps saying supercharger but if you have the 99,00 tl you must know that the tranny can't stand a constant increase of power hell the 4 speed tranny can't even handle the very little stock power the car produces(222hp). I've made up my mind I want the baby bottleits the safest. what about a v-tech controller like apex i or aem's version. I'm really looking foward to everyones responces so please don't heasatate(??) to respond. Also if anyone has a wet zex kit please let my know.

 

for the amount of money it looks like you're willing to drop on this car to make it faster, you'd be better off trading in your TL-P and getting a fast car. These cars are meant to be a quick sedan, not tire smoking, ferrari beating sports car.

you could probably extract 260 crank hp out of your car with headers, intake, pulleys, as mentioned above, but that still leaves you at the point of a type-s stock.

The nitrous kit you want to get will make you fast for a few seconds at a time, but 99% of the time your car is going to be 225 hp or so. Guessing you enjoy driving fast a lot of the time, so that NOS is gonna run out real quick and leave you with less than 250 hp motor.

I figured the type-s plus headers + intake will put my car ~290 hp, which is about all that I feel I personally need. When I decide to buy a car that goes fast, i'll look at a Z06 or something, rather than put thousands of $$ into this car to make it pretty fast.

But if it's your passion to mod and make a real custom TL, way to go man, i give ya props!

 

well the transmission's are on half their life no matter what so added the supercharger I don't think will hurt that much but that's my opinion. The transmission is poorly designed and constant failures on some people. Also why install turbo mufflers? Why do you need a free flowing exhaust like you are running a turbo. Could have easily used one of the regular aftermarket exhaust systems out there. I mean, you can do intake/header/exhaust/pullies or intake/header/exhaust/pullies/nitrous or even intake/header/exhaust/pullies/nitrous/supercharger ...there are many options but then again I have a turbo on my tl so the transmission issue doesn't really bother me. Prior to the turbo, I ran nitrous with every bolt on with the exception of the spacers without any problems for about 50-60k. Have fun modding .

 

good point, but most american cars suck!!! lol

 

Sell your TL and get a used GTO (current generation). You can have 400 hp for about $25,000

 

Good point but not always an option for everyone.

 

I say get the UR crank pulley. I installed mine last week and I noticed a nice gain.

 

Adding our trannies arent weak. they have a under sized clutch pack. HP isnt killing them.
Adding a SC would be no different than adding the Bottle. both are increasing the hp. the main differnce is is the SC doesnt run out and cost you to refill.

 

Id take a Z06 over any honda or toyota any day. Best bang for buck out there, and faster than them all too

 

to each has his own and I have never got an american car and don't plan on it...

I'll take an m5, s600, e55, cls55 and the ultimate sl65(or s65) over a z06 anyday




euro/jap car only buyer here ....sorry

 

hahaha no well no z06 for me but,
the problem is that the car is a rebuilt, the previous owner was rear ended and the insurance company said it was a write off so that's when i bought it. so unfortunatly if i try to sell it it's not worth much. but it looks beautiful. thanx for all the ideas ill try some of the bolt ons but where is the best place to get it???

 

oh i forgot to ask does anyone know where to find a 2002-2003 intake manifold?? and how do the motor swaps work what other than tls ecu, motor, and tranny is needed???

 

the intake manifolds from 2000-2003 are not a direct fit on the 99 motor because of the difference in the fuel rails. If you interested in swapping motors, etc ...check with fsttyms1 as he just did a j32a2 6 speed swap in his tl. ******warning it will be pricey unless you do the work yourself*********

 

one of the few american cars i would buy in a heartbeat. and he's right. if your tranny is going to go it's going to go. regardless of your mods or horsepower or how nice you are to the car or how hard you beat on it. besides, if you're going to push a 100 shot through there it's more power than the supercharger is delivering, so it's not really "safer" in that respect. slightly different story if you use a 50 shot, but you get my point.

SSTS

 

Well if your talking that much money i would take a F360 or F430 over the zo6 first

 

Agreed and the 50 and 100 shot are gong to be harder on the tranny due to the all of a sudden and not very linear way they come on

 

Well, I'll change my statement and say I would rather have an m3 then it which is in the same price range.

 

i/h/e/p, -S TB and exhaust pretty much does it for bolt ons. then vafc and grounding i guess

my '99 dyno'd 194.x last week ~ as much as a stock TL-S!lol...if only. a combination of the 3 of those together will yield around 15whp...iridiums and grounding prob won't make enough diff to notice. wheels and tires NOS/ZEX

 

i/h/e/p, -S TB and exhaust pretty much does it for bolt ons. then vafc and grounding i guess

my '99 dyno'd 194.x last week ~ as much as a stock TL-S!lol if only... a combination of the 3 of those together will yield around 15whp...iridiums and grounding prob won't make enough diff to notice.
wheels and tires
NOS/ZEX
BMW M3

 

well thanx for all the input but i'm still unsure what mods to go forward with. I didn't know the intakes are different but can you make it fit?? and who did this swap j32a2 for j32a1 i want more info about that. someone told me they could install a type s with the original sh!t 4 speed tranny. However Iv'e hade mine rebuilt and they put a acura replacement part in it. can anyone tell me where to get the hedders for a good price? the cheapest i could find was for like $850 and i'm sure their available for less then that. For the pulleys i need to know how negative of an effect with they have on my alternator. i have three 12 inch subs three mtx 8001, in dash and head rest screens, i don't wanna fry my gear. the man at the shop told me i will gain power however i will trade it for p steering ease and battery charging. This is car is driving me nuts i cant find parts almost anywhere. i want a swap tls powertrain

 

if your worried about your alternator being weak get a capacitor. it will help out.

 

Here's a breakdown.. I have a '99 TL-P.. it's like a Type-S now with better gas mileage, I love it. Here's my mods:

XS Headers Ebay - $153 shipped - 20-25 whp
AEM Red Cold Air Intake Ebay - $173 shipped - 5-7whp
Iridium IX Spark Plugs Ebay - $43 shipped
UR Crank Pulley (soon) Acurazine vendor or Ebay - $170 shipped 7-10 whp
Apexi World Sport 2 Exhaust - Black Market from an acurazine member.. hopefully. $250 - 3-5 hp (awesome sound though)

Your mechanic's right, even though you get more power, you lose a SMALL bit steering ease, a/c, etc. but it's really not noticable at all. But since you have a sound system, just get entire UR Crank pulley set (should be 3 pulleys all together) and you'll be good to go No worries. On ebay, it should be around $287 +shipping the last time I checked.

Unless you want to switch over to a 6-speed, there's really no need to replace the transmission. Since you're under warranty, if the transmission dies, the dealership will give you the new supposedly "fixed" transmission.. Makes me wish I was under warranty myself Just look around and be patient, go on the Black market and ebay daily, new things always come up.. but go fast. If anything, just ask

Just to let you know, I'm currently pushing around 260hp at the crank the last time I checked (at NE Tech), but I'll have to do another dyno after I get the pulley in and the new tranny job 2-3 weeks from now

 

*cough* fstty *cough* 2ng gen 6speed type-s..... THAT IS SEX