Modding 03 TLS with I/H/E/P and spacers
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From: Virginia Beach, VA
Originally Posted by cheezwerkz
has any1 try or know anything about the new apexi super afc neo? or is it the same as the vafc, just a new model?
http://www.apexi-usa.com/news_article.asp?id=15
And here is my dyno
291hp & 245 tq @ 3.5psi
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From: The O.C
Originally Posted by LudetypeSH
I was finally able to dyno my car yesterday. It was done at Dyno Extreme in Stanton, Ca. I arrived there about an hour before the shop was going to close but the owner was cool enough to do the dyno. The shop didn't have a printer attached so I am waiting for him to email ne the dyno sheet. Here are the results from 3 pulls:
1st pull => Max Power = 232.59 Max Torque = 197.23
2nd pull => Max Power = 231.87 Max Torque = 196.70
3rd pull => Max Power = 193.46 Max Torque = 186.44 (Accidentally on 4th gear on this pul)
I am pretty happy with the results and happy that I was able to dyno over 230whp...but was hoping to dyno about 240whp. The shop recommended an Apexi V-AFC to smoothen out the power band and to pull a liitle more power (maybe 1-5whp...if that). I know snowman dynoed at 237whp and was hoping to be around that number...but everycar is different. I welcome any comments or questions and will post the results as soon as I recieve is via email. Thanks.
1st pull => Max Power = 232.59 Max Torque = 197.23
2nd pull => Max Power = 231.87 Max Torque = 196.70
3rd pull => Max Power = 193.46 Max Torque = 186.44 (Accidentally on 4th gear on this pul)
I am pretty happy with the results and happy that I was able to dyno over 230whp...but was hoping to dyno about 240whp. The shop recommended an Apexi V-AFC to smoothen out the power band and to pull a liitle more power (maybe 1-5whp...if that). I know snowman dynoed at 237whp and was hoping to be around that number...but everycar is different. I welcome any comments or questions and will post the results as soon as I recieve is via email. Thanks.
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From: Aliso Viejo, CA
Originally Posted by LacViet
Can you give me phone # or the address of the shop? I have almost the same mod as you and I want to dyno my car to see how much horsepower my car get. Thanks.
Dyno Xtreme
8042 Cerritos Ave.
Stanton, CA 90680
714-231-4299
Ask for Sarkis
*They specialize mostly in Toyota Supras, Nissan 300zx, and Sport Bikes...but will work with almost any car. Thanks.
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From: Aliso Viejo, CA
Here is the results from my dyno. I posted my best run out of 3 pulls. I had my 19" Racing Hart C2 Evo's on and had to drive about 25 miles before I got to the shop. Each dyno was done within 15-20 of each other as the shop was going to close in about an hour. I welcome any comments or questions. Thanks.
List of mods:
- DC Header
- AEM CAI
- Apexi WS II
- Unorthodox Racing Ultra S Crank Pulley
- Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock Spacers
List of mods:
- DC Header
- AEM CAI
- Apexi WS II
- Unorthodox Racing Ultra S Crank Pulley
- Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock Spacers
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From: Virginia Beach, VA
Nice numbers...
Now for the questions...can someone please explain the SAE correction. I searched it on the web and couldn't really find anything worth while, so I was hoping someone here can explain it to me.
Now for the questions...can someone please explain the SAE correction. I searched it on the web and couldn't really find anything worth while, so I was hoping someone here can explain it to me.
Originally Posted by snowman81
Nice numbers...
Now for the questions...can someone please explain the SAE correction. I searched it on the web and couldn't really find anything worth while, so I was hoping someone here can explain it to me.
Now for the questions...can someone please explain the SAE correction. I searched it on the web and couldn't really find anything worth while, so I was hoping someone here can explain it to me.
All of those things affect the power output, so they invented the SAE correction factors to even out the playing field.
Same thing in the NHRA, for instance. A car running at Bandimere up in the mountains will definitely post a slower time than an identical (or even the same) car running here in the flat lands of Michigan. So they have a set of correction factors to even it out. Once you input the times through these correction factors, the output results will be identical for the same car running at the two different places. Hope that made sense.
Originally Posted by parshooter
What does 225 whp mean as far as bhp, which is always used in stating hp in car ads?
Let me give you an example.
The '03 Type-S has an advertised BHP of 260, and it typically put down 195-200 fwhp in stock form. For the sake of convenience, let's just use 200.
200 / 260 = 0.769
1 - 0.769 = 0.231
That means it has a drivetrain loss of 23.1 percent.
My car put down 239 fwhp.
239 / 0.769 = 310.8
Meaning now it has 310.8 BHP.
Using the same equations, 225 fwhp would equate to 292.6 BHP.
Now here's why I said it was tricky. Every car has a different drivetrain loss percentage, and dyno runs aren't always consistent. There are different types of dynomometers and of course the ambient conditions will definitely affect the output, too. So there's no real exact science to it, for the most part. (There is, but you would have to use some very complicated SAE correction equations and get the exact drivetrain loss percentage in order to figure it out).
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From: Aliso Viejo, CA
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
It's kind of tricky. You have to use some equations to figure it out.
Let me give you an example.
The '03 Type-S has an advertised BHP of 260, and it typically put down 195-200 fwhp in stock form. For the sake of convenience, let's just use 200.
200 / 260 = 0.769
1 - 0.769 = 0.231
That means it has a drivetrain loss of 23.1 percent.
My car put down 239 fwhp.
239 / 0.769 = 310.8
Meaning now it has 310.8 BHP.
Using the same equations, 225 fwhp would equate to 292.6 BHP.
Now here's why I said it was tricky. Every car has a different drivetrain loss percentage, and dyno runs aren't always consistent. There are different types of dynomometers and of course the ambient conditions will definitely affect the output, too. So there's no real exact science to it, for the most part. (There is, but you would have to use some very complicated SAE correction equations and get the exact drivetrain loss percentage in order to figure it out).
Let me give you an example.
The '03 Type-S has an advertised BHP of 260, and it typically put down 195-200 fwhp in stock form. For the sake of convenience, let's just use 200.
200 / 260 = 0.769
1 - 0.769 = 0.231
That means it has a drivetrain loss of 23.1 percent.
My car put down 239 fwhp.
239 / 0.769 = 310.8
Meaning now it has 310.8 BHP.
Using the same equations, 225 fwhp would equate to 292.6 BHP.
Now here's why I said it was tricky. Every car has a different drivetrain loss percentage, and dyno runs aren't always consistent. There are different types of dynomometers and of course the ambient conditions will definitely affect the output, too. So there's no real exact science to it, for the most part. (There is, but you would have to use some very complicated SAE correction equations and get the exact drivetrain loss percentage in order to figure it out).
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