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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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hid 3rd brake light, reverse light?

I wonder it the housing can take the heat? I don't want to risk melting my taillight housings. I would like to install a reverse hid in some capacity that third brake lamp housing seems like a perfect level for tailgater's and all ill need is one so is anyone daring enough, I guess I'd have to buy a wiring harness to attach to the ballast then some how run an on off switch to in the cabin. just a 2am brain storm. any insight/ trouble shooting tips from the folks of acurazine?
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:33 AM
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probably better off with high power led. hid take few second to fully light up. since its a brake light every second count .
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 03:54 AM
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That is a bad idea.
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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very bad idea. A few have done it for the backup lights.

Oh and if you dont like tailgaters MOVE OVER and let them by
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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you can run a special flasher unit to the 3rd light so it blinks rapidly 6 times then on solid--used on many motorcycycles
gets attention of those on cell phone, dealing with kids, driving with head under dash etc. iirc mine was about 20 bucks

for the regular brake lights- some higher power/halogen standard bulbs are available

make sure the lens's are polished clean same as headlight housings

NO on HID bulbs for the rear--nice idea but not practical
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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HID 3rd brake light is a genius idea. Now anytime you brake (tailgater or not) they'll be blinded.

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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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my friend actually did the HID in the reverse lights on a 2001 4door accord----its looks fuckin awesome i think !!!!!!
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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dont we already have hi power/halogen bulb reverse lights?

reverse lights are different- they only come on in reverse---and you are not using them for very long,, to overheat lens
certainly would work to see behind thru dark tints

but try that HID on a `full time on` bulb,,, and probs and fixes section will be the area for your next thread,,
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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The purpose wasn't for it to be used as a brake light, the purpose was to be used as a reverse/ blind people behind me light.. Im kind of worried that the housing might melt from the heat, or maybe I can fab up a metal can that would mount the bulb upwards under the third brake light, and affix a mirror to the inside of the third brake light , or remove it all together and make a metal box in its place as long as its flush with the back window, and fairly stream lined, maybe I can mount this in the hole where the sub used to be, I took out my back seat already, what good it the carpeted rear deck, and plastic cover for a non-existent stock sub?
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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you do this shit to me and I'm rear ending you so I can beat your sissy ass.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:02 AM
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lol Well thats kinda practical when some douchebag is High Beaming you from behind in a EFFIN 2 Lane Road cuz he wanna fly-by in the middle of the Night...

But it will take ages to the HID to fully light up in the Brake Lamp IMO. But you can I dunno manually find a way to turn on the Reverse Lights w/HIDs with some gizmo wired up and it would work (Maybe).

Safety Issues? A F* TON.....
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:41 AM
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Wut, taking out your back seats will make the sub non-existent, what are the wavelengths going to bounce off of?
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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you stated both 3rd brake light and reverse lights in thread title- so we are confused as to actual intent and useage

Im telling you from personal life saving!! experience-
the flasher unit for the 3rd light is awesome- is DOT legal ON the 3rd brake light for cars (only motorcycles can use for main brake light-- since we only have 1) and will definetly get the attention of the driver behind- without causing them night blindness at 2pm~

if cars are tailgating you-
take a high performance driving school/track day for $200-300 and be able to leave them behind in the corners...
or learn where and how to let them pass safely

here is 1 example with video- do net search for `brake light flasher` for pages of choices
http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index...roducts_id=181

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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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I think he meant to say make third brake light to reverse light. It only come one when in reversed.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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I think the problem with putting HIDs in your reverse lights is that since they'll only be on for such a short amount of time, and sometimes frequent on/off in tight parking situations, the ballasts won't last long at all. Not to mention the the temperature issues.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I was on the hwy and all three lanes were blocked, but no one was in front of them, I flashed my high beams in the left lane , then the moron sprays his windshield wiper fluid at me a few drops landed on my windshield, what a MORON, I eventually passed him and the other zombie drivers. The hid reverse light in place of the third brake light would have been perfect for this passive aggressive so and so, he didn't tail gate me, in fact he slowed down, I was trying to get where I was going so I didn't have time to play games. the weather was overcast. Plus I always reverse into my drive way, if I ever got darker window tint, my stock reverse lights just wont do
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlacoJ
I was on the hwy and all three lanes were blocked, but no one was in front of them, I flashed my high beams in the left lane , then the moron sprays his windshield wiper fluid at me a few drops landed on my windshield, what a MORON, I eventually passed him and the other zombie drivers. The hid reverse light in place of the third brake light would have been perfect for this passive aggressive so and so, he didn't tail gate me, in fact he slowed down, I was trying to get where I was going so I didn't have time to play games. the weather was overcast. Plus I always reverse into my drive way, if I ever got darker window tint, my stock reverse lights just wont do
Oh no, the world is coming to an end. You got a few drops on your windshield. Quick go get a new one. Maybe you shouldnt have flashed your highbeams. How about being a real man and just do nothing.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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so you want to get in front of someone and send a blinding light at them---at eye level--potentially causing a serious accident

to showcase your superior driving skills,, and express frustration at their alleged lack of same?? (not like any of us were ever that way~)
not the best choice you will ever make!!

tinted windows? learn to back up using the side mirrors!!
add a small aftermarket xenon bulb driving light, mounted low for your driveway use only

note:
Sometimes those vehicles running in a row blocking the entire freeway are not JUST with the ADL (Anti Destination League) ie: those who set out in motorhomes soley to slow traffic~
BUT
may actually have seen something ahead,,like law enforcement going the speed limit, or objects falling off a truck onto roadway, or any number of things

Take a Breath and Save Your Life

windshield squirter setting--you dont have 1 set to go over the car and nail the fool tailgating you??? I thought that was the standard setting

In the words of the late Great George Carlin:
Ever notice anyone going slower than you... is an Idiot!
and anyone going faster than you... is insane!!

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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
very bad idea. A few have done it for the backup lights.

Oh and if you dont like tailgaters MOVE OVER and let them by
Nice theory but not very practical in the real world. The problem lies with the tailgaters, not those being tailgated.
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Let a police officer see you use your little blinding light set up one night and he'll show you all his custom lights...
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Nice theory but not very practical in the real world. The problem lies with the tailgaters, not those being tailgated.
Whats not practical with moving over or finding a way to let them by, if you are being tailgated MOVE OVER. Dont do something stupid like slam on your brakes, or something else like the OP wants to do that could endanger even more people. And,I have to disagree, Half the problem IS with the person being tailgated. They start to worry about the guy behind them more than what they are doing. They start to get even more annoyed than the guy trying to get by and start doing stupid things.

You do something like that to me (if you think im too close and you better hope im not in my truck. You will have 4 100w highbeams going right thru your back window and tint does very little to stop it)
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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I will admit sometimes on the Jersey Turnpike I will be going around 80 and a car doing 65 will be in the left lane and if I notice it far in advance I will flick my headlights briefly but I dont leave them on and if someone were to turn HIDs on and blind me that would just piss me off. If you were a better driver and checked your mirrors every 5-10 seconds like you should,you could have seen me coming and moved over. They do this in europe for slowing moving traffic. If you just stayed out of the left lane while doing the speed limit we would have any problems
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Originally Posted by FlacoJ
I wonder it the housing can take the heat? I don't want to risk melting my taillight housings. I would like to install a reverse hid in some capacity that third brake lamp housing seems like a perfect level for tailgater's and all ill need is one so is anyone daring enough, I guess I'd have to buy a wiring harness to attach to the ballast then some how run an on off switch to in the cabin. just a 2am brain storm. any insight/ trouble shooting tips from the folks of acurazine?
whatever you end up doing post it on your youtube.

BTW do you like your led fogs - are they bright?
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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I have some led fog light bulbs for sale, the intensity just wasn't available I upgraded to 3000k hids as seen here on utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9x3M5ayz2k, I can drive one lane from a 2 story building and see it illuminated in yellow
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Whats not practical with moving over or finding a way to let them by, if you are being tailgated MOVE OVER. Dont do something stupid like slam on your brakes, or something else like the OP wants to do that could endanger even more people. And,I have to disagree, Half the problem IS with the person being tailgated. They start to worry about the guy behind them more than what they are doing. They start to get even more annoyed than the guy trying to get by and start doing stupid things.

You do something like that to me (if you think im too close and you better hope im not in my truck. You will have 4 100w highbeams going right thru your back window and tint does very little to stop it)
I've driven enough to know there ARE times it isn't practical. The situation that comes to mind right away would be on the interstate in relatively heavy traffic. If you're in the right lane going at or near the speed limit, & some moron decides to ride your ass for no apparent reason. It's obviously not safe (& probably illegal) to just drive over into the emergency lane just to let the fool by. Now I don't routinely just toodle along in the left lane clogging traffic, nor do I "slam on my brakes" but I WILL tap them to flash the brake lights. And if that doesn't work then it's time to slow down for safety. It would seem to me if one believes their tailgating is causing the driver ahead to "get even more annoyed" then that would be a grand reason to back off or go around when it's safe to do so. And if that person you're tailgating happens to be an unmarked unit (there are plenty of them around here- they drive anything) & you decide to turn on your illegal lights then expect TWO tickets. They have put up signs on the interstate here, addressing the issue primarily with trucks not being given sufficient space. As someone who has been rear ended THREE times (none of which were my fault), & fortunately not resulting in any injuries, I realize how dangerous it can be out there. If somebody is that pressed for time then they should have left earlier for their destination to allow sufficient time to reach it. Ever notice how often the one in a hurry & tailgating is often sitting at the next traffic signal or off ramp when you get there?? It's not worth it.

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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
I've driven enough to know there ARE times it isn't practical. The situation that comes to mind right away would be on the interstate in relatively heavy traffic. If you're in the right lane going at or near the speed limit, & some moron decides to ride your ass for no apparent reason. It's obviously not safe (& probably illegal) to just drive over into the emergency lane just to let the fool by. Now I don't routinely just toodle along in the left lane clogging traffic, nor do I "slam on my brakes" but I WILL tap them to flash the brake lights. And if that doesn't work then it's time to slow down for safety. It would seem to me if one believes their tailgating is causing the driver ahead to "get even more annoyed" then that would be a grand reason to back off or go around when it's safe to do so. And if that person you're tailgating happens to be an unmarked unit (there are plenty of them around here- they drive anything) & you decide to turn on your illegal lights then expect TWO tickets. They have put up signs on the interstate here, addressing the issue primarily with trucks not being given sufficient space. As someone who has been rear ended THREE times (none of which were my fault), & fortunately not resulting in any injuries, I realize how dangerous it can be out there. If somebody is that pressed for time then they should have left earlier for their destination to allow sufficient time to reach it. Ever notice how often the one in a hurry & tailgating is often sitting at the next traffic signal or off ramp when you get there?? It's not worth it.
Sure there are times when there is nothing you can really do. But there are times that tapping the brakes or slowing down make the situation worse with the driver behind you It aggravates them more and makes them more likely to get even more anxious and irritated. And IF it were me you were referring to A i would know a unmarked cop car anywhere, Especially if it was in front of me,(drive over 1 million miles and you learn to pick out a lot of things) and B my lights arent illegal.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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the brake light fake or the slowing down are going to piss off the already irate driver.

Its not about them having bad time management and you are going to teach them a lesson
Its far more often someone is whacked on serious drugs,,doing crack at the stoplight type people--no right mind at work behind the wheel

If you felt it necessary to move slightly right into an emergency breakdown lane
to allow them to pass half in your lane- half in opposite direction traffic,
no cop is going to stop you over the person being mental
their driving will attract attention-- while you took a safe evasive action

ask a cop--they will say move over when safe/asap,,let the person by,,
they may very well be armed with GUNS and happy to blow you away for blocking the road,, with your speed limit or under driving
all they know is you are the ahole blocking the road

I assume every person on the road is drunk at .024 (3 times the limit) or high past an equal rating..meth or similar is involved...
hey take some oxy and hit the road!!
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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the brake light fake or the slowing down are going to piss off the already irate driver.

Its not about them having bad time management and you are going to teach them a lesson
Its far more often someone is whacked on serious drugs,,doing crack at the stoplight type people--no right mind at work behind the wheel

If you felt it necessary to move slightly right into an emergency breakdown lane
to allow them to pass half in your lane- half in opposite direction traffic,
no cop is going to stop you over the person being mental
their driving will attract attention-- while you took a safe evasive action

ask a cop--they will say move over when safe/asap,,let the person by,,
they may very well be armed with GUNS and happy to blow you away for blocking the road,, with your speed limit or under driving
all they know is you are the ahole blocking the road

I assume every person on the road is drunk at .024 (3 times the limit) or high past an equal rating..meth or similar is involved...
hey take some oxy and hit the road!!
It SHOULD be about time management, if they believe they have to drive like morons, behind me, who is NOT blocking any road...I make it a pt. to drive in the right lane, unless passing, like you're supposed to do. And when you notice that often these folks appear "normal" (soccer moms, drivers of business vehicles, you name it) then I tend to believe there's far more to it than "someone is whacked on serious drugs,,doing crack at the stoplight type people". I realize those are out there too but I certainly don't think they are necessarily the majority.

It's not a racetrack- we're talking about public streets. I'm through....
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBj8XsbjYI4 how to deal with tail gaters
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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soccer moms on the phone and yelling at 8 kids are far worse than the drugged on the road--they are always late! no attention outside the windshield- phone in left hand making left turns- no visual ck...its crazy
my opinion:
with the removal of driver ed in school- and all you have to do is wait till 18 in many states and no education behind the wheel is required to get a license..
that has led to the downfall of any driving skills by the majority..plus many illegals with ~no licensia~
They are blasting the tunes, isolated in their tank of a vehicle, and outside awareness is limited to the 10 feet directly in front of them,,on a good day~

I maintain that a day of performance driving school will teach you how to deal with gaters
You can sucker them into a corner,,late brake and dive for the apex--while they have gotten in way too hot and off line,,its all brakes and elbows as their headlights receed in your mirror
works every time..you want to follow me that close?,,ok!!!! but we are going to play

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