Engine and tranny swap
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hey guys, im still on my first tranny but i don't drive rough, if i put a sc but not drive on tiptronic will anything happen to it? srry about out of subject
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I'm still new to this 6spd tranny swap as well. I'm not really interested in the Type S motor and just want to do the 6spd swap only when/if my tranny goes out. Well it seems that you would need a module ($700) that has been created to make this work on the AV6. So, I believe it would be the same for our 99 TL-p. As seeing Joe is taking a look at this module as well.
Here is an exceprt from (Richie V6):
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383&page=14&pp=30
you got the tranny for a pretty good price. mechanically the 6 speed bolts up no problem. but since the stock engine harness doesnt have plugs for the 6 speed tranny your car wont run properly. without the harness and module the ecu will limit the revs to 5500, vtec wont engage and your speedo wont work. using the harness will allow the 6 speed tranny to run seamlessly with the j30 ecu.
features.
No check engine
corrected final drive ratio
reverse lock out
reverse light
no rev limit
speedo
vtec
These are the modules he has made.
Also, can someone post the engine codes and what car it is. I've seen some 6spd tranny threads around. If anyone knows of a cleaned up thread with a parts list and a DIY for a 6spd to a 99 TL-p I would appreciate it. I would like to see what I would be getting myself into. Thanks
Here is an exceprt from (Richie V6):
http://www./forums/showthread.php?t=73383&page=14&pp=30
you got the tranny for a pretty good price. mechanically the 6 speed bolts up no problem. but since the stock engine harness doesnt have plugs for the 6 speed tranny your car wont run properly. without the harness and module the ecu will limit the revs to 5500, vtec wont engage and your speedo wont work. using the harness will allow the 6 speed tranny to run seamlessly with the j30 ecu.
features.
No check engine
corrected final drive ratio
reverse lock out
reverse light
no rev limit
speedo
vtec
These are the modules he has made.
Also, can someone post the engine codes and what car it is. I've seen some 6spd tranny threads around. If anyone knows of a cleaned up thread with a parts list and a DIY for a 6spd to a 99 TL-p I would appreciate it. I would like to see what I would be getting myself into. Thanks
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Originally Posted by dro_15
Also, can someone post the engine codes and what car it is. I've seen some 6spd tranny threads around. If anyone knows of a cleaned up thread with a parts list and a DIY for a 6spd to a 99 TL-p I would appreciate it. I would like to see what I would be getting myself into. Thanks
Originally Posted by 00 acura tl
is it possible to use j32a1 block with 3.5 internals , type s heads and manifold (intake) wit the 6 speed tranny swap and the type s sleeves?
#46
Engine codes and what car it's for: This is what I meant
J30A1 Accord
J32A2 TL-p/TL-s
J35A3 Acura MDX '01-02
J35A4 Odyssey '02-04
is J32A2 for both a TL-P/S.... are the cams differnt between the TL-S and CL-S
for a parts list... i wasn't refering to internals but more of what parts are needed for the 6spd conversion to the TL-P... would that be the CL-s tranny/pedals/shifter assembly, center console, i've read solenoids (but which ones would i need), cl-s ecu or wire harness/module to make our current ecu work with manual tranny.... is this list correct or am i missing anything... is there any part# for the solenoids needed...
J30A1 Accord
J32A2 TL-p/TL-s
J35A3 Acura MDX '01-02
J35A4 Odyssey '02-04
is J32A2 for both a TL-P/S.... are the cams differnt between the TL-S and CL-S
for a parts list... i wasn't refering to internals but more of what parts are needed for the 6spd conversion to the TL-P... would that be the CL-s tranny/pedals/shifter assembly, center console, i've read solenoids (but which ones would i need), cl-s ecu or wire harness/module to make our current ecu work with manual tranny.... is this list correct or am i missing anything... is there any part# for the solenoids needed...
#47
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Originally Posted by dro_15
Engine codes and what car it's for: This is what I meant
J30A1 Accord
J32A2 TL-p/TL-s
J35A3 Acura MDX '01-02
J35A4 Odyssey '02-04
is J32A2 for both a TL-P/S.... are the cams differnt between the TL-S and CL-S
for a parts list... i wasn't refering to internals but more of what parts are needed for the 6spd conversion to the TL-P... would that be the CL-s tranny/pedals/shifter assembly, center console, i've read solenoids (but which ones would i need), cl-s ecu or wire harness/module to make our current ecu work with manual tranny.... is this list correct or am i missing anything... is there any part# for the solenoids needed...
J30A1 Accord
J32A2 TL-p/TL-s
J35A3 Acura MDX '01-02
J35A4 Odyssey '02-04
is J32A2 for both a TL-P/S.... are the cams differnt between the TL-S and CL-S
for a parts list... i wasn't refering to internals but more of what parts are needed for the 6spd conversion to the TL-P... would that be the CL-s tranny/pedals/shifter assembly, center console, i've read solenoids (but which ones would i need), cl-s ecu or wire harness/module to make our current ecu work with manual tranny.... is this list correct or am i missing anything... is there any part# for the solenoids needed...
No J32A1 is the TL-P J32A2 is for the S
well obviously you wont need the wiring for the CL-S motor or ECU None of which will work for the P motor . but all the mechanical stuff (clutch,flywheel,trans,mounts etc.. are all going to be the the same from my list) Im not aware of any solenoids needed. I have no idea what wiring is needed to keep the TL-P motor and you wont find answers here (as no one has done it) Like ive said before your best bet on finding out whats needed is to do your research on the AV6 forum. the accord is close enough where i bet it would be the same.
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Originally Posted by vzuptnguyen
the whole reason i wanted to sell my car and get a new one was mainly because i wanted a manual car. i never thought about making my car a manual but i think itll be less complicating to swap the tranny, then to sell and buy a new car.
1. ive read some people like austin, and cocoa do the 3.5 odyssey or mdx block with the type S heads, then the cl-s 6 speed tranny. are there any other options? how much horsepower gain is involved?
2. i was thinking it might be easier, just doing the tranny swap and then 02-03 typeS head swap. is this the best "bang for the buck"?or should i jsut get the whole TLs engine
how much would it cost total, including everything for option 1(without labor)
how much would it cost total for option 2 (without labor)
Does the Cl-s tranny bolt right up with tlp engine? what else is needed for it?
what site can i find all the blocks,engines from, other than ebay and acurastore
thanks in advance. sorry if some questions are redundant.
1. ive read some people like austin, and cocoa do the 3.5 odyssey or mdx block with the type S heads, then the cl-s 6 speed tranny. are there any other options? how much horsepower gain is involved?
2. i was thinking it might be easier, just doing the tranny swap and then 02-03 typeS head swap. is this the best "bang for the buck"?or should i jsut get the whole TLs engine
how much would it cost total, including everything for option 1(without labor)
how much would it cost total for option 2 (without labor)
Does the Cl-s tranny bolt right up with tlp engine? what else is needed for it?
what site can i find all the blocks,engines from, other than ebay and acurastore
thanks in advance. sorry if some questions are redundant.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
What do you mean by this? The parts list would pretty much be the same as the one i have depending on what route your going. So far im the only one who has thrown a list together.
you could buy a type s motor cheaper than those parts would run you separately
you could buy a type s motor cheaper than those parts would run you separately
#50
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Originally Posted by SRAcuraTL
What would it run me for a new transmission and new types s motor?
#51
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With the 3.5 conversion, you you mostly gain low end? Or would there be a top end gain as well? Any drawbacks? I am really considering this but I heard that you lose top end power.
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^ and where did you hear that?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
^ and where did you hear that?
#55
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
I don't remember. I could have sworn someone on the CL side said something about it. Is that wrong info?
#56
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
from what ive read it sounds like it puts out about the same hp as the standard pulley on the SC.
#57
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shouldnt lose any top end. all it is doing is changing the stroke/displacement and adding (if you go with the RL setup) higher compression. all the rest of the tunning (cams and intake) is type-s and should help with higher rpm power, along with better low end TQ
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