Levi.Weber

actual reason

Karanx7

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Welcome to AZine, Levi.Weber.

justnspace

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the real actual reason???

Cost.
Most people don't want to spend $5-10k for a shop to fabricate piping.
The 2nd reason, tuning...no real plug and play option.
There is the mega squirt 3, but it's not as easy as hondata or ktuner. this goes back to reason number 1, costs.

justnspace

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Now, if you can fabricate your own piping and metal work and can learn the mega squirt 3 software, of course you can get this done cheaper than the afore mentioned high costs

Levi.Weber

Thank you for a legit reason this helped a lot, but would a supercharger be worth it?

Acura TL Builder

Because the people that do create a kit do it for themselves and aren’t interested in producing more than one for the market. This is a niche car unlike an Integra.

justnspace

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depends on your definition of worth it...

you're still going to run into the same problems and even more with an off the shelf comptech supercharger...
you'll need to figure out tuning.

you'll need to figure out cooling.

still tons of costs involved.

Acura TL Builder

Comptech Superchargers don’t need to be cooled, but it’s better if they are. Is there not a tuning solution for 01-03 TLs?

Biggest cost will be the supercharger itself.

Acura TL Builder

You could get a supercharger plate kit from heeltoe and slap an M90 on it.

Midnight Mystery

TL is sweet but just buy a faster car if you want speed.

You can do some NA tuning to a J series though ir just swap out for a ddifferent J series engine.


Just saying

Acura TL Builder

It would be easier and more cost effective to supercharge ones current TL. Granted your tranny will handle it.

LevelTen.com can build your tranny from 500whp-1000whp.

justnspace

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meth!!! To cool it down!!

And there are things like the AEM FIC and of course the mega squirt 3. But not easy plug and play like hondata

Karanx7

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The biggest problem with the Comptech SCers are the 4 rib pulley design. There's just no way it doesn't slip.

Acura TL Builder

Is this from your person experience with the Comptech? Because my 5psi 4-rib pulley Comptech hadnt a slip, ever.

perhaps you read this in an old thread. Where guys used to put 8psi HBP(High Boost Pulleys) on and then had belt slip.

Acura TL Builder

I believe the 3G has a 6-rib pulley system, that is why I wasn’t getting any belt slippage.

Regardless, you can buy a can of the product below and that will alleviate the slippage issue.

Acura TL Builder

I used to hella use meth(the ethanol you sickos) and my Comptech charge would cool down to 78-88F on a 90F day.

Now the AEM injection system will be repurposed for spraying alcohol onto my intercooler to cool the air-to-air turbo charge.

Karanx7

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The 6 rib SCer for 3G TL cars won't slip at 6psi, but the 2G TL SCer 4 rib can't even maintain 3 psi without slipping. I have a M90 Comptech with a high boost alternator pulley and a high boost SC shaft pulley, and it's just shredding the belt.

Acura TL Builder

There is no Comptech M90.

Comptech uses the Magnuson brand MP62(62CFM) units only.

Eaton uses the M instead of MP. So an “M90” is an Eaton 90CFM unit.

Unless you custom fitted an Eaton M90 onto a Comptech snout?

I have the last Comptech snout as a spare and an Magnuson MP90 S/C I will fit onto it to make an “Comptech” MP90 unit.

Acura TL Builder

So an MP62 makes 5psi on a 3.2l TL engine. A HBP makes about 8 psi due to its smaller size. But you have a HBP And a high boost alternator pulley? How much smaller is your alt pulley?

Do you have a 62cfm or a 90 CFM unit?

If you have a 62cfm with both of those pulleys on a 4 rib then your running well north of 10psi on an MP62. So of course your shredding belts. Try only a HBP on man mp62 with belt spray and you’ll be fine.

Karanx7

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I have a Comptech unit with a Magnuson MP90 fitted on. It bolts directly to the shaft, but you will need to modify the charge outlet, and make an adapter plate for the inlet.

I have a 3.6L engine, so the 62cfm unit with stock pulleys makes less than 3 psi. With the high boost alternator pulley and the high boost SCer shaft pulley, it made about 5psi with slippage. The MP62 is operating at the limit of it's efficiency with the 3.2L, so it's a poor choice for a 3.6L engine.

Nah, I'm running a 90cfm with a high boost alternator pulley and a high boost SCer shaft pulley. It WOULD make a shit ton of boost, but there's just no way the 4 rib can keep up. There's no solution without getting a custom alternator pulley, or converting to a 3G TL style SCer. I'm just planning to go turbo at this point.

Acura TL Builder

I like your build man! How many people do you know of with 2G MP90 Comptech S/Cs??

I know of only one guy "Chito Simmons" with a 3G M90 and hes been dreaming to install it for 3.5 years. Ive tried to buy it off him for a long time and hes got a death grip on it. Cant wait till he installs it, will be a fun unit.

Arkady

Man Karanx7, I've always been curios as to what your build looks like - you seem super knowledgeable so I always figured you'd have some gnarly build. You got an album or a thread somewhere showing off your car?