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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Want a subtle drop...

I want to lower my car but not too much. Maybe 1-1.5" at the most. The reason why I don't want to lower it too much is because I valet park my car often and you know how those fcukers drive, plus I hate it when the body kit gets scratched, specially with those blocks at parking lots. Anyways, I know H&R are very popular in springs for TLs, but what about TEIN and Eibach? Could anyone please post pics as to how the car would look with the different springs? Also, what are the difference in prices? Thanks!

Ps. When changing the springs... is there anything else I should change as well to make the drive safer? Such as dampers, coil overs, etc? Sorry but I don't know much about lowering cars.
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Best bet is the H&R OE's. Everone that has them, loves them. Every other brand like Comptech, Eibach, Tein, or Neuspeed are going to be a much greater drop than you want. unless you went with height adjustable coilovers, which are WAYYY more expensive... like 5 times more expensive. In 'theroy' your supposed to swap the shocks with the springs, but with a near-OEM type spring like the OE's, you will be just fine with stock shocks and cambers by far.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkshear
Best bet is the H&R OE's. Everone that has them, loves them. Every other brand like Comptech, Eibach, Tein, or Neuspeed are going to be a much greater drop than you want. unless you went with height adjustable coilovers, which are WAYYY more expensive... like 5 times more expensive. In 'theroy' your supposed to swap the shocks with the springs, but with a near-OEM type spring like the OE's, you will be just fine with stock shocks and cambers by far.
How much do you drop with the H&R OE's and what is the price for it? Has anyone experienced any problems after they changed the springs to H&Rs?
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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I forgot to ask how much does the H&R OEs drop? I was checking it on the www.acura-tl.com and it says that is drops only 0.75", some of the TEIN and the H&R Sport OE drop around 1.50" which its not that much right? Could someone please post pics???
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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I have H&R OE Sports and I measured the ride height before and after so I know for a fact that on an otherwise bone stock car you get 1" in front and .75" in back. I had an alignment done about 3 weeks after the install and everything was in spec. I've had 4 passengers in my car recently and there was no rubbing over railroad tracks, etc. I've done the complete suspension/wheel upgrade: springs, struts, sway bars, strut bars and 17" wheels and the car feels completely new. There is no slop in the suspension whatsoever, the ride is totally controlled. I'm completely satisfied with my set up.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TLMugen
I have H&R OE Sports and I measured the ride height before and after so I know for a fact that on an otherwise bone stock car you get 1" in front and .75" in back. I had an alignment done about 3 weeks after the install and everything was in spec. I've had 4 passengers in my car recently and there was no rubbing over railroad tracks, etc. I've done the complete suspension/wheel upgrade: springs, struts, sway bars, strut bars and 17" wheels and the car feels completely new. There is no slop in the suspension whatsoever, the ride is totally controlled. I'm completely satisfied with my set up.
That sounds great, just what I am looking for. However, many people have said that if you drop your car you should also get camber kits, did you change yours? What should I expect to change if I do install the H&R OE Sports in my car? Camber kits, shocks, coil overs?
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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I read how people with the more aggressive drops (Comptech and H&R Sport) keep their original struts with no problems so the OE Sport will pose absolutely no problem whatsoever. I didn't need a camber kit, mine was in spec. You can just do the springs and not change anything else and you'll be fine.

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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I have the O.E. sports and comptech sways with orig. struts.

My alignment is barely in spec. I might get a camber kit someday if I really get anal about it.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Seotaji
I have the O.E. sports and comptech sways with orig. struts.

My alignment is barely in spec. I might get a camber kit someday if I really get anal about it.
I have Eibach sways... will installing OEs affect my specs?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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no.

it has nothing to do with alignment, i'm just bad at english.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Seotaji
no.

it has nothing to do with alignment, i'm just bad at english.
Uh? The what did the springs affect? Nothing?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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The sways just tie the left and right sides of the suspension to reduce roll. Even if you removed the sway bar(s), the alignment would not be affected.

I had my Eibach sways installed a couple of months before I did the spring/strut swap and there were no issues.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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You only need a camber kit if you are dropping more than 2" or so. Even the Comptech drop at 1.5" doesn't really require a camber kit.

You shouldn't need to replace anything other than the springs with the drop you're talking about. Even with Comptech springs, the stock shocks are probably good enough for a few years before you need to replace them. And then you can just get Koni Yellows or something similar.

I wouldn't worry about changing anything else other than your springs if you just want the OE Sport.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LiQiCE
You only need a camber kit if you are dropping more than 2" or so. Even the Comptech drop at 1.5" doesn't really require a camber kit.

You shouldn't need to replace anything other than the springs with the drop you're talking about. Even with Comptech springs, the stock shocks are probably good enough for a few years before you need to replace them. And then you can just get Koni Yellows or something similar.

I wouldn't worry about changing anything else other than your springs if you just want the OE Sport.
Thanks. I think I have decided to go for the H&R OE Sport because I don't want the car too low... could anyone please post pics of how the car looks with that drop though? Just to compare with stock... thanks.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Don't believe anyone that says you won't need a camber kit for comptech springs!

That's what I believed until i got my alignment done and found out i need one for the rear. You'll never know until you get your alignment!!
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongolian
Don't believe anyone that says you won't need a camber kit for comptech springs!

That's what I believed until i got my alignment done and found out i need one for the rear. You'll never know until you get your alignment!!
But with an OE drop I don't think I would use a camber kit right? I mean, the drop is only 0.75-1"...
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Thsiao... to make you feel a little more comfortable, my friend got the OE drop and he didn't need a camber kit, but the car didn't look too much different after he lowered it.... i say just go comptech and get camber kit

I got my comptech install 2 weeks ago and i love the way it looks ... except the fact that i need to pay extra $$ for a camber kit...
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongolian
Thsiao... to make you feel a little more comfortable, my friend got the OE drop and he didn't need a camber kit, but the car didn't look too much different after he lowered it.... i say just go comptech and get camber kit

I got my comptech install 2 weeks ago and i love the way it looks ... except the fact that i need to pay extra $$ for a camber kit...
Which camber kit did you get and how much money did you spend? I know the OEs have a very subtle drop, not too dramatic, which is what I am looking for... just a little bit lowered, not too low coz I don't wanna be scratching my body kit all over. I valet often and you know how valet people treat the cars, they would scratch it like hell.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Thsiao, I will be installing Revo Tehnica Rear Camber kit.... for $200 (includes labor) this saturday. The shop that did all my mods recommended this so I will take their advice. they did such a goood job with everything else so I don't foresee any problems.

I say just go comptech... i was worried about scratching everywhere since this will be my first lowered car, but I have yet to face that problem. I actually have a very steep driveway at home, and I do not scratch going up. I don't think comptech drop is considered "dramatic" compared to what i've seen on other cars. I think it's somewhat subtle.

Like some have already mentioned.... OE looks stock and I defintely have to agree. I saw the OE drop and comptech drop in person before i got my comptech and decided to go with comptech.

word about valet in CA... I'm in the insurance industry .... and i would advise you never to entrust your vehicle to any valet service if possible. if they damage your car, they will flat out deny everything... in case your vehicle gets damaged as a result of being valeted, i guaratee you'll get a big headache.
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