UniChip groupbuy for 2nd gen. TL-P's!
#1
UniChip groupbuy for 2nd gen. TL-P's!
Ok peeps. Lets try this again. The general manger of Unichip North America, said they would gladly be willing to build chips for 2nd Gen. TL-P's!
He also stated that they already have the harnesses and chips ready to go. All they need is for one person to take their car over and let them build the maps (on the chip) for a TL-P Unichip. If I was on the West Coast I would do it myself, but I am on the East coast. Is there anyone willing to do it?
The groupbuy requires a $100 deposit by each person to secure the manufacturing of the chips. We can assume the final total will be around $600 bucks per chip. Thats what the CL guys paid.
So, if you are seriously interested please reply.
He also stated that they already have the harnesses and chips ready to go. All they need is for one person to take their car over and let them build the maps (on the chip) for a TL-P Unichip. If I was on the West Coast I would do it myself, but I am on the East coast. Is there anyone willing to do it?
The groupbuy requires a $100 deposit by each person to secure the manufacturing of the chips. We can assume the final total will be around $600 bucks per chip. Thats what the CL guys paid.
So, if you are seriously interested please reply.
#5
im very interested...would this work on a car thats been already slightly moded and tuned with the vafc?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
#7
installed mine today on my 2003tls, 1st one out of the GB to have it installed, except for brian who donated his car to have our chip built. I;m very happy, she pulls like a bastard, & runs so very smooth. My price was $608.00 + 15.87 for shipping. Go for it guys you won't be disappointed.
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#8
Originally Posted by etxxz
im very interested...would this work on a car thats been already slightly moded and tuned with the vafc?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
#10
Originally Posted by etxxz
im very interested...would this work on a car thats been already slightly moded and tuned with the vafc?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?
Someone posted the link to the dyno results on this forum earlier this week, maybe they can post it on this thread.
#11
Here is the link to mattg's dyno results: http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143724
Looks like 15-20 whp gains on a NA CL!
Looks like 15-20 whp gains on a NA CL!
#12
Originally Posted by 69tl
what about portland oregon area folks?? what do you mean by that??
#14
I'm not sure what an Acura Inspire is......Anyway, I am getting the details from Unichip on how long the mapping process takes and what is involved. As soon as I hear I will post the info.
#15
Thanks for the follow up Element.... The inspire is the JDM version of the TL, I'm not sure how he has one in the U.S. unless he just change the emblems, because it will be a right side drive.... but that's what it is.
#16
Since I am trying to coordinate w/ Uni-Chip, someone should tell the CL-P guys we are starting a GB. It's the same engine right? If it is, then start recruiting people from there also!
Todays recruiting tip: emphasize that this is a piggy-back plug-and-play chip, w/ solid documented gains throughout the ENTIRE powerband, not just at the top like headers....
Todays recruiting tip: emphasize that this is a piggy-back plug-and-play chip, w/ solid documented gains throughout the ENTIRE powerband, not just at the top like headers....
#18
Element, I agree, however at this stage, I belive that everyone and their mother, know about the unichip, it's been around forums for months now... The CL guys have been working on getting this together for a while..... The ground work is already done, we nn to focus on the following:
1. Identify a volunteer in the Portland area willing to give up a car
2. See if we can ride the groupbuy wave from our fellow CL members, in order to get a similar price break, couple of us were on the original list, we can start there.
3. Coordinate the deposit process in order to fund this developement.
4. Designate a "GO" to guy that will speak with Unichip and be the main point of contact, between us and Unichip.
5. Sit back and wait, and enjoy the gains!!!!
If anyone else have more to add, feel free....
1. Identify a volunteer in the Portland area willing to give up a car
2. See if we can ride the groupbuy wave from our fellow CL members, in order to get a similar price break, couple of us were on the original list, we can start there.
3. Coordinate the deposit process in order to fund this developement.
4. Designate a "GO" to guy that will speak with Unichip and be the main point of contact, between us and Unichip.
5. Sit back and wait, and enjoy the gains!!!!
If anyone else have more to add, feel free....
#19
Originally Posted by El pana/TL32
Element, I agree, however at this stage, I belive that everyone and their mother, know about the unichip, it's been around forums for months now... The CL guys have been working on getting this together for a while..... The ground work is already done, we nn to focus on the following:
1. Identify a volunteer in the Portland area willing to give up a car
2. See if we can ride the groupbuy wave from our fellow CL members, in order to get a similar price break, couple of us were on the original list, we can start there.
3. Coordinate the deposit process in order to fund this developement.
4. Designate a "GO" to guy that will speak with Unichip and be the main point of contact, between us and Unichip.
5. Sit back and wait, and enjoy the gains!!!!
If anyone else have more to add, feel free....
1. Identify a volunteer in the Portland area willing to give up a car
2. See if we can ride the groupbuy wave from our fellow CL members, in order to get a similar price break, couple of us were on the original list, we can start there.
3. Coordinate the deposit process in order to fund this developement.
4. Designate a "GO" to guy that will speak with Unichip and be the main point of contact, between us and Unichip.
5. Sit back and wait, and enjoy the gains!!!!
If anyone else have more to add, feel free....
Agreed. Regarding your comment, I beleive the chip was only manufactured for the CL-S. That means that the CL-P guys would prolly be down.
Regarding your points:
1. Yep, we'll need a volunteer.
2. I'm already talking about pricing issues with Unichip.
3. I will handle the deposit process (if thats kewl with everyone).
4. I am already coordinating this with UniChip.
5. Exactly.
The main thing we need to do is get people signed up, and find a volunteer. Also, see if the CL-P has the same engine. Is there even a CL-P? If there is we need to lettem know!
Lets get this ball rolling people!
#20
Here is the response I got from Jack Friedman at Uni-Chip regarding the pricing issues:
Ryan,
Thanks for taking on the work load. Yes, my assumption is that the price would be in the ball park with the CL GB. Essentially, you’ll get 10% (20-29 guys), 15% (30-39 guys), or 20% (40+ guys) off of retail, and once we see a car and design the PnP harness and kit, we’ll be able to narrow down the price. Most normally aspirated cars are in the $700-$850 range, so you can do the basic math as well as I can at this point. Once we see the car, we’ll be able to narrow it down.
Hopefully, the basic mule process can all be done with one vehicle which we can tune in the “popular” configurations (stock, CAI, exhaust, CAI + exhaust, and any other common ones the group desires). That typically takes about a week. If we can get all that from one car, that guy gets everything for free. If we have to use two cars, they each get half off the GB price, etc…
Please let me know if you have any other questions and how things are going.
Cheers,
Jack
Jack Friedman, General Manager
Unichip of North America
www.unichip.us
Toll free 1.866.643.7400
Local 1.503.6407465
Fax 1.503.214.6444
......So, there it is. The more people we get onboard, the cheaper it will be. The CL guys got it down to right around $600. But, in any event we need to get at least 20.
Ryan,
Thanks for taking on the work load. Yes, my assumption is that the price would be in the ball park with the CL GB. Essentially, you’ll get 10% (20-29 guys), 15% (30-39 guys), or 20% (40+ guys) off of retail, and once we see a car and design the PnP harness and kit, we’ll be able to narrow down the price. Most normally aspirated cars are in the $700-$850 range, so you can do the basic math as well as I can at this point. Once we see the car, we’ll be able to narrow it down.
Hopefully, the basic mule process can all be done with one vehicle which we can tune in the “popular” configurations (stock, CAI, exhaust, CAI + exhaust, and any other common ones the group desires). That typically takes about a week. If we can get all that from one car, that guy gets everything for free. If we have to use two cars, they each get half off the GB price, etc…
Please let me know if you have any other questions and how things are going.
Cheers,
Jack
Jack Friedman, General Manager
Unichip of North America
www.unichip.us
Toll free 1.866.643.7400
Local 1.503.6407465
Fax 1.503.214.6444
......So, there it is. The more people we get onboard, the cheaper it will be. The CL guys got it down to right around $600. But, in any event we need to get at least 20.
#22
Originally Posted by moahdriven
700 bux =[
#23
Is this for the 00 - 03 TL-p's with 5 gears, and not for the '99 TL-P's with four gears?? Someone should specify.. I see people with '99's are interested but, IMO I think the 99's would have to be seperate order/unichip with another car needed for the template...
#24
Originally Posted by ResidualFreedom
Is this for the 00 - 03 TL-p's with 5 gears, and not for the '99 TL-P's with four gears?? Someone should specify.. I see people with '99's are interested but, IMO I think the 99's would have to be seperate order/unichip with another car needed for the template...
That's the main issue here, having the different vehicle types available in PDX for mapping.
#26
If there's no Oregon TL-P available, I may reconsider going down to help out. However, my configuration is short ram and headers only. If I have to pay 50% of chip price because I don't have exhaust or pulleys or nitrous, that's gonna be a tough pill to swallow considering I will be driving down to Oregon at my own expense.
#27
Good point, this is something that element can address with Jack... Element, please ask this question. Another thing, will it be beneficial to list all performance mods, to see what's the most popular set up among us?
Thanks
Thanks
#28
Originally Posted by patrick
If there's no Oregon TL-P available, I may reconsider going down to help out. However, my configuration is short ram and headers only. If I have to pay 50% of chip price because I don't have exhaust or pulleys or nitrous, that's gonna be a tough pill to swallow considering I will be driving down to Oregon at my own expense.
And just to quell any future questions, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THESE MODS IN ORDER FOR THE CHIP TO WORK PROPERLY. YOU WILL SELECT THE MAP ON THE CHIP THAT APPLIES TO YOUR CAR.
SO YOUR CAR, PATRICK, WOULD RUN AT 100% OPTIMIZATION WITH THE CHIP BECUASE IT WAS BUILT FROM YOUR SETUP. THE REST OF US MIGHT GET 99.98% OPTIMIZATION FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT INTAKE SETUP, NO HEADERS ETC.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO SHOW UP FOR TESTING YOU GET YOURS FREE.
#29
Originally Posted by Elementz
Patrick, it will not matter which mods you have. They will map our chips according to your setup, and bone stock. So in your instance, the chip would be mapped for stock (base), base + intake, and base + intake + headers.
And just to quell any future questions, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THESE MODS IN ORDER FOR THE CHIP TO WORK PROPERLY. YOU WILL SELECT THE MAP ON THE CHIP THAT APPLIES TO YOUR CAR.
SO YOUR CAR, PATRICK, WOULD RUN AT 100% OPTIMIZATION WITH THE CHIP BECUASE IT WAS BUILT FROM YOUR SETUP. THE REST OF US MIGHT GET 99.98% OPTIMIZATION FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT INTAKE SETUP, NO HEADERS ETC.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO SHOW UP FOR TESTING YOU GET YOURS FREE.
And just to quell any future questions, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THESE MODS IN ORDER FOR THE CHIP TO WORK PROPERLY. YOU WILL SELECT THE MAP ON THE CHIP THAT APPLIES TO YOUR CAR.
SO YOUR CAR, PATRICK, WOULD RUN AT 100% OPTIMIZATION WITH THE CHIP BECUASE IT WAS BUILT FROM YOUR SETUP. THE REST OF US MIGHT GET 99.98% OPTIMIZATION FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT INTAKE SETUP, NO HEADERS ETC.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO SHOW UP FOR TESTING YOU GET YOURS FREE.
#30
Originally Posted by patrick
Cool! July is out of the question, got lots of family plans coming up. August is a possibility tho. If no other TL-P will step by by August, there's a good chance I can pop over to Oregon and volunteer my car. Having said that, I need the least amount of down time from work...is Unichip willing to do testing on weekends or is it strictly Monday-Friday business hours?
#34
Originally Posted by Elementz
Agreed. Regarding your comment, I beleive the chip was only manufactured for the CL-S. That means that the CL-P guys would prolly be down.
Regarding your points:
1. Yep, we'll need a volunteer.
2. I'm already talking about pricing issues with Unichip.
3. I will handle the deposit process (if thats kewl with everyone).
4. I am already coordinating this with UniChip.
5. Exactly.
The main thing we need to do is get people signed up, and find a volunteer. Also, see if the CL-P has the same engine. Is there even a CL-P? If there is we need to lettem know!
Lets get this ball rolling people!
Regarding your points:
1. Yep, we'll need a volunteer.
2. I'm already talking about pricing issues with Unichip.
3. I will handle the deposit process (if thats kewl with everyone).
4. I am already coordinating this with UniChip.
5. Exactly.
The main thing we need to do is get people signed up, and find a volunteer. Also, see if the CL-P has the same engine. Is there even a CL-P? If there is we need to lettem know!
Lets get this ball rolling people!
#35
Originally Posted by Elementz
A mere pittance for 15-20 whp across the entire powerband! And its a 5 minute install (Plug-and-Play) Can you be a maybe MOAH? At least think about it and let us know.
#36
Originally Posted by patrick
If there's no Oregon TL-P available, I may reconsider going down to help out. However, my configuration is short ram and headers only. If I have to pay 50% of chip price because I don't have exhaust or pulleys or nitrous, that's gonna be a tough pill to swallow considering I will be driving down to Oregon at my own expense.
#37
Are you sure the gains are going to be along the lines of those seen in the TL-S? As we all know, the TL-S seems to get better gains from any performance mod (I-H-E) than the TL-P, so I'm curious if we can expect to encounter the same from the Unichip?
Also, are the gains from the Unichip mutually exclusive from the gains you will see from adding other performance mods down the line? For example, if headers increase HP by 20, but you add the Unichip first which adds 15hp, will adding headers later only give you say an extra 10hp. Or can you still expect to see the 20hp gain?
Thanks for the info guys!
Hey, makes me remember....what ever happened to "MM1" and "MM2"? :o
Also, are the gains from the Unichip mutually exclusive from the gains you will see from adding other performance mods down the line? For example, if headers increase HP by 20, but you add the Unichip first which adds 15hp, will adding headers later only give you say an extra 10hp. Or can you still expect to see the 20hp gain?
Thanks for the info guys!
Hey, makes me remember....what ever happened to "MM1" and "MM2"? :o
#38
Originally Posted by JPritch
Are you sure the gains are going to be along the lines of those seen in the TL-S? As we all know, the TL-S seems to get better gains from any performance mod (I-H-E) than the TL-P, so I'm curious if we can expect to encounter the same from the Unichip?
Also, are the gains from the Unichip mutually exclusive from the gains you will see from adding other performance mods down the line? For example, if headers increase HP by 20, but you add the Unichip first which adds 15hp, will adding headers later only give you say an extra 10hp. Or can you still expect to see the 20hp gain?
Thanks for the info guys!
Hey, makes me remember....what ever happened to "MM1" and "MM2"? :o
Also, are the gains from the Unichip mutually exclusive from the gains you will see from adding other performance mods down the line? For example, if headers increase HP by 20, but you add the Unichip first which adds 15hp, will adding headers later only give you say an extra 10hp. Or can you still expect to see the 20hp gain?
Thanks for the info guys!
Hey, makes me remember....what ever happened to "MM1" and "MM2"? :o
#39
shipping times to Canada?
Weight of product?
And a seperate question what is the real difference between the two programmers. this one and the Jet one in the other post in the 2nd gen forum. This one is $600 for 15hp and the other is 9-11hp for $230.. is this one really worth the xtra $$ ?? Don't mean to hijack the thread I'm just comtemplating both, but $600US is not something to throw around on a whim..
Weight of product?
And a seperate question what is the real difference between the two programmers. this one and the Jet one in the other post in the 2nd gen forum. This one is $600 for 15hp and the other is 9-11hp for $230.. is this one really worth the xtra $$ ?? Don't mean to hijack the thread I'm just comtemplating both, but $600US is not something to throw around on a whim..