Elementz

Ok peeps. Lets try this again. The general manger of Unichip North America, said they would gladly be willing to build chips for 2nd Gen. TL-P's!

He also stated that they already have the harnesses and chips ready to go. All they need is for one person to take their car over and let them build the maps (on the chip) for a TL-P Unichip. If I was on the West Coast I would do it myself, but I am on the East coast. Is there anyone willing to do it?

The groupbuy requires a $100 deposit by each person to secure the manufacturing of the chips. We can assume the final total will be around $600 bucks per chip. Thats what the CL guys paid.

So, if you are seriously interested please reply.

El pana/TL32

Down since day one...

SONNYS99TL

what kinda of enhancement can I expect out of the chip?

Tatewaki

I'd be interested. Please keep us posted on the details

etxxz

im very interested...would this work on a car thats been already slightly moded and tuned with the vafc?

*edit: just to help us out...does the person who gives up the car for a little time get a free chip?

ChucksCL-S

Count me in!

seattle dale

installed mine today on my 2003tls, 1st one out of the GB to have it installed, except for brian who donated his car to have our chip built. I;m very happy, she pulls like a bastard, & runs so very smooth. My price was $608.00 + 15.87 for shipping. Go for it guys you won't be disappointed.

seattle dale

i believe so brian over at the cl GB donated his car for mapping the chip & his was free. So if you live in the portland oregon area, jump on it!!!

69tl

what about portland oregon area folks?? what do you mean by that??

Elementz

Yes, the chip still works on slightly modded vehicles. My understanding is that, when they say mapping the chip, they map it for several different setups. The first CL guy to run his on a dyno had CAI and nitrous.

Someone posted the link to the dyno results on this forum earlier this week, maybe they can post it on this thread.

Elementz

Here is the link to mattg's dyno results: http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143724

Looks like 15-20 whp gains on a NA CL!

seattle dale

unichip is in the portland area, so unless your gonna drive a long way to donate your car for the chip development, it only makes sense for this donation car be from the portland area.

69tl

i'll do it if i have a TL-P cuz i only have a Acura Inspire

Elementz

I'm not sure what an Acura Inspire is......Anyway, I am getting the details from Unichip on how long the mapping process takes and what is involved. As soon as I hear I will post the info.

El pana/TL32

Thanks for the follow up Element.... The inspire is the JDM version of the TL, I'm not sure how he has one in the U.S. unless he just change the emblems, because it will be a right side drive.... but that's what it is.

Elementz

Since I am trying to coordinate w/ Uni-Chip, someone should tell the CL-P guys we are starting a GB. It's the same engine right? If it is, then start recruiting people from there also!

Todays recruiting tip: emphasize that this is a piggy-back plug-and-play chip, w/ solid documented gains throughout the ENTIRE powerband, not just at the top like headers....

CBS

count me too unless I get a 04' TL.....which can or may happen within a week but if I decide to keep my 01 tl-p, you can count me in too bigtime!!!!

El pana/TL32

Element, I agree, however at this stage, I belive that everyone and their mother, know about the unichip, it's been around forums for months now... The CL guys have been working on getting this together for a while..... The ground work is already done, we nn to focus on the following:

1. Identify a volunteer in the Portland area willing to give up a car
2. See if we can ride the groupbuy wave from our fellow CL members, in order to get a similar price break, couple of us were on the original list, we can start there.
3. Coordinate the deposit process in order to fund this developement.
4. Designate a "GO" to guy that will speak with Unichip and be the main point of contact, between us and Unichip.
5. Sit back and wait, and enjoy the gains!!!!

If anyone else have more to add, feel free....

Elementz

Agreed. Regarding your comment, I beleive the chip was only manufactured for the CL-S. That means that the CL-P guys would prolly be down.

Regarding your points:
1. Yep, we'll need a volunteer.
2. I'm already talking about pricing issues with Unichip.
3. I will handle the deposit process (if thats kewl with everyone).
4. I am already coordinating this with UniChip.
5. Exactly.

The main thing we need to do is get people signed up, and find a volunteer. Also, see if the CL-P has the same engine. Is there even a CL-P? If there is we need to lettem know!

Lets get this ball rolling people!

Elementz

Here is the response I got from Jack Friedman at Uni-Chip regarding the pricing issues:

Ryan,

Thanks for taking on the work load. Yes, my assumption is that the price would be in the ball park with the CL GB. Essentially, you’ll get 10% (20-29 guys), 15% (30-39 guys), or 20% (40+ guys) off of retail, and once we see a car and design the PnP harness and kit, we’ll be able to narrow down the price. Most normally aspirated cars are in the $700-$850 range, so you can do the basic math as well as I can at this point. Once we see the car, we’ll be able to narrow it down.

Hopefully, the basic mule process can all be done with one vehicle which we can tune in the “popular” configurations (stock, CAI, exhaust, CAI + exhaust, and any other common ones the group desires). That typically takes about a week. If we can get all that from one car, that guy gets everything for free. If we have to use two cars, they each get half off the GB price, etc…

Please let me know if you have any other questions and how things are going.



Cheers,

Jack



Jack Friedman, General Manager

Unichip of North America

www.unichip.us

Toll free 1.866.643.7400

Local 1.503.6407465

Fax 1.503.214.6444



......So, there it is. The more people we get onboard, the cheaper it will be. The CL guys got it down to right around $600. But, in any event we need to get at least 20.

moahdriven

700 bux =[

Elementz

A mere pittance for 15-20 whp across the entire powerband! And its a 5 minute install (Plug-and-Play) Can you be a maybe MOAH? At least think about it and let us know.

ResidualFreedom

Is this for the 00 - 03 TL-p's with 5 gears, and not for the '99 TL-P's with four gears?? Someone should specify.. I see people with '99's are interested but, IMO I think the 99's would have to be seperate order/unichip with another car needed for the template...

El pana/TL32

It will be for both! The ground work is done, it's a matter of setting the right parameters for each vehicle type 4 speed/5 speed mods, etc. I'm part of the 99's and was part of the original group buy, with the CL guys, the problem was having someong with a 99 show up in Portland.

That's the main issue here, having the different vehicle types available in PDX for mapping.

Elementz

Let me ask Jack for some clarification. I'll post when I get a response.

patrick

If there's no Oregon TL-P available, I may reconsider going down to help out. However, my configuration is short ram and headers only. If I have to pay 50% of chip price because I don't have exhaust or pulleys or nitrous, that's gonna be a tough pill to swallow considering I will be driving down to Oregon at my own expense.

El pana/TL32

Good point, this is something that element can address with Jack... Element, please ask this question. Another thing, will it be beneficial to list all performance mods, to see what's the most popular set up among us?

Thanks

Elementz

Patrick, it will not matter which mods you have. They will map our chips according to your setup, and bone stock. So in your instance, the chip would be mapped for stock (base), base + intake, and base + intake + headers.

And just to quell any future questions, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THESE MODS IN ORDER FOR THE CHIP TO WORK PROPERLY. YOU WILL SELECT THE MAP ON THE CHIP THAT APPLIES TO YOUR CAR.

SO YOUR CAR, PATRICK, WOULD RUN AT 100% OPTIMIZATION WITH THE CHIP BECUASE IT WAS BUILT FROM YOUR SETUP. THE REST OF US MIGHT GET 99.98% OPTIMIZATION FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT INTAKE SETUP, NO HEADERS ETC.

IN ADDITION, IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO SHOW UP FOR TESTING YOU GET YOURS FREE.

patrick

Cool! July is out of the question, got lots of family plans coming up. August is a possibility tho. If no other TL-P will step by by August, there's a good chance I can pop over to Oregon and volunteer my car. Having said that, I need the least amount of down time from work...is Unichip willing to do testing on weekends or is it strictly Monday-Friday business hours?

Elementz

Well, don't get excited yet. I am still waiting to hear whether or not it matters if the car is '99 w/ 4 gears or '00-'03 w/ 5 gears. If it does we may not be able to do this. Keep your fingers crossed and thanks for the offer.

El pana/TL32

Thanks for stepping up!

patrick

Elementz: Very true. Let us know when you find out. Thx.

El pana: No problem!

crackpuppy

Count Me in, I want Chip also.

seattle dale

not just developed for the cls, but the tls. Same engine

seattle dale

sorry its more like a half hour install, but well worth it.

seattle dale

i have headers, & k & n filter & they fitted me with the unichip.

JPritch

Are you sure the gains are going to be along the lines of those seen in the TL-S? As we all know, the TL-S seems to get better gains from any performance mod (I-H-E) than the TL-P, so I'm curious if we can expect to encounter the same from the Unichip?

Also, are the gains from the Unichip mutually exclusive from the gains you will see from adding other performance mods down the line? For example, if headers increase HP by 20, but you add the Unichip first which adds 15hp, will adding headers later only give you say an extra 10hp. Or can you still expect to see the 20hp gain?

Thanks for the info guys!

Hey, makes me remember....what ever happened to "MM1" and "MM2"? :o

Elementz

Great question Jpritch. I will get a list of questions like these together and send them all to Jack at one time. That way he is not answering 30 different emails. So, if you have any questions or concerns post them and I'll try to get answers for you soon.

ResidualFreedom

shipping times to Canada?
Weight of product?


And a seperate question what is the real difference between the two programmers. this one and the Jet one in the other post in the 2nd gen forum. This one is $600 for 15hp and the other is 9-11hp for $230.. is this one really worth the xtra $$ ?? Don't mean to hijack the thread I'm just comtemplating both, but $600US is not something to throw around on a whim..

Elementz

I don't know enough about the JET product to even comment on it. Maybe someone else knows.....I will note your question for UniChip however.