So, someone is selling type-s cylinder heads + cams in the black market, what good is this to someone with say...a Type-P?

 

I'm not too sure. When I had the CL it was a 3.0CL Premium. Came with all the goods. Heated seats and mirrors. 8 way electric driver seat. And some other pooh. So I reckon the TL has a Premium trim also. Maybe? And the Type-S is the performance trim. Engine, suspension, shiftknob, silver gauges, etc...

Sooo...... Type-S cams would put your TL Premium closer to 260hp.

I never said I had a 3.0CL Type-P. That sounds pretty tard-ish. If Napolean Dynamite had a TL, he might say some shit like that. Just say " I have a fatty TL."

Thank you. Come again!

 

^^^ Talking about cylinder heads here, not heated seats.


The cams are different so ECU tuning will be needed. With the lower compression pistons in the TL-P will prevent you from really increasing HP without further modification.

 

I was looking for an explaination of what a TL-P was. I don't know. What does the P stard for?

 

Touring Luxury Premium.

 

Type-S cams on a tl-p as stated earlier would put it slightly closer to that 260 hp mark. I don't think it would help that much tho. Get a VAFC and u can set ur VTEC engagement point lower if u want, that'll be better than Type-S cams.

 

That's dumb. Don't call it a TL-P. My Civic is an EX-G. Cuz it's Green. EX Type-G. Acura didn't give it that nomenclature. I've never seen a Acura 3.2 TL Type-P. Show me a properly badged 3.2 TL Type-P. And I'll recognize it as such.

I surfed the CL forum for over 2 years. I had a 1999 3.0CL Premium. I never once saw a homie declare their shit an extra special 3.0CL Type-P. Or a 3.0 CL-P.

Sorry for the unreasonable word wondering. I'm a bit riled up. I just watched AVP. I'm a bit upset. I paid for the title 3.2 TL Type-S. I also paid a bit more NOT to have my Civic badged with the letters DX pasted to my feature loaded toy-box.

Thank You. Have a good day.

 

RELAX!!!!

There is no Type-P badging. Your 3.0 CL Premium also wasn't badged as such. Part of the Type-S package is the Type-S badging on the trunk and on the shifter knob. The reason for calling it a TL-P or a CL-P on THESE FORUMS is to distinguish between the two trim levels easier. In the 1st get CL forum this isn't needed becasue to distinguish between the different models you refer to the engine displacement. (2.2, 2.3, 3.0) The TL (non Type-S) is the TL Preminum. END OF STORY.

 

tl-p means tl that isn't a type-s . how the hell do you think were're supposed to distingusih between one another on these forums??

 

Actually, I meant Type-Plain .

 

Ok, just for the record, there is the TL, and the TL Type-S. The members of the board made up "TLP" because we were having problems when the Type-S came out distinguishing between the two in posts.

with that said, if you dropped the type-s heads on a non type-s, you would see significant gains, more that any other bolt on we have available to us, and more than any VAFC can provide. This has been done, tested, and dyno'd a thousand times, about a year and a half ago. I would buy those bitches in a heart beat if i could afford it. its the next best thing to the 3.5 conversion, or the combination of I/H/E/P.

 

hahah steve you beat me to it

 

IMO... I/H/Pulleys will give you more hp than bolting on the Type-S heads. You still have lower compression which IMO is the main factor in why the Type-S has 35 more horsepower than the "TL-P"

 

steve correct me if i'm wrong but doesnt the heads have to do anything with the compression, atleast it did on B-series engines.


aside of that, heads are kinda worthless in our car until we can figure out how to push the redline alittle further thats where the hp comes in. you might pull 10-15hp more but its not worth ALL the trouble pullin the engine apart etc plus the type s dual stage intake has to do alot with the low end TQ. only way once again i believe we can pull 260 with those heads is by extending our redline

 

even on the b series motors the heads didnt really have to much to do with the compression, it was the head gasket and the pistons anyone make a headgasket that will bump the compression on a tl-p?

 

well, i know for sure there are bubly pistons that'll fit our cars...i remember like 7months ago, someone took the engine out of a typeS and rebuilt it completely with forged pistons and everything.....or it might've been a 3.5 conversion. Bottom point get piston and bump compression GET MAD power.

you could also "shave" or sand some metal off the head and raise compression this way

 

Sigh...seems to be some conflicting info....again. Are the Type-S heads and cams a good mod or not? Anybody have dynos?

 

Not without extensive tuning to 1) raise the rev limiter and 2) adjust timing


Money is better spent elsewhere.

 

Head gasket

 

I'm pretty sure the actual heads on both trim levels are pretty similar. The changes are in the cams and the new cams are the reason for tuning.

 

i agree. i dont think theres any thing different in the heads. its in the cams. putting the cams on a TL-P wont give you the full benifits from them unless you could increase your redline (which we cant) and the compression like mrsteve said along with th increased redline is where the type-s is making its 35hp advantage on the TL-P