Torque specs for lug nuts?
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Torque specs for lug nuts?
03 TL anyone have lug nut torque specs? better yet does anyone have a list of torque specs for diff location nuts all over the car? Drivers Manual has nothing.
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Horrible rule of thumb
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Don't know where you people get your torque specs from. Most shops will torque your lug nuts to around 90-100 ft/lbs because they don't have time to look for lug nut torque specs. The lock nuts always gets torqued less so they don't get damaged on removal. I've done this on all my cars and the cars I've worked on and never had an issue... Just because it's not what you guys use doesn't mean it's wrong...
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Don't know where you people get your torque specs from. Most shops will torque your lug nuts to around 90-100 ft/lbs because they don't have time to look for lug nut torque specs. The lock nuts always gets torqued less so they don't get damaged on removal. I've done this on all my cars and the cars I've worked on and never had an issue...
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You need to go to better shops... All the shops I go to look up the proper torque spec and then use a torque wrench to finish installing each wheel..
You're 24 years old and claiming, "all the cars I've worked on"... I think all those cars need to find a more competent monkey.
Or it IS wrong?
Do it right, or don't do it at all..
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#15
Um.. try the owner's manual?
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You need to go to better shops... All the shops I go to look up the proper torque spec and then use a torque wrench to finish installing each wheel..
You're 24 years old and claiming, "all the cars I've worked on"... I think all those cars need to find a more competent monkey.
Or it IS wrong?
Do it right, or don't do it at all..
or
You need to go to better shops... All the shops I go to look up the proper torque spec and then use a torque wrench to finish installing each wheel..
You're 24 years old and claiming, "all the cars I've worked on"... I think all those cars need to find a more competent monkey.
Or it IS wrong?
Do it right, or don't do it at all..
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First of all I never said to not follow the torque specs. Im just letting you know the method that I and many other mechanics have been using for years. Just because I'm not a torque nazi like you doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing. I've probably turned my wrenches than you've had when you were my age.
So what you're basically saying is, "Follow the specs... no do it, I'm not telling you not to do it but I don't do it.. But i'm not wrong. I know a bunch of people that don't do it either but they're not wrong either. Just because I don't follow things to spec doesn't mean I'm wrong." and then some fodder about how you think you have experience despite EVERYONE else calling you out for being wrong.
Kids
How about just saying, "Oh.. okay yeah i don't do that but maybe I should start..."
Or just don't go on the Internet admitting how you don't know what you're doing but then proceed to give advice anyway?
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So what you're basically saying is, "Follow the specs... no do it, I'm not telling you not to do it but I don't do it.. But i'm not wrong. I know a bunch of people that don't do it either but they're not wrong either. Just because I don't follow things to spec doesn't mean I'm wrong." and then some fodder about how you think you have experience despite EVERYONE else calling you out for being wrong.
Kids
How about just saying, "Oh.. okay yeah i don't do that but maybe I should start..."
Or just don't go on the Internet admitting how you don't know what you're doing but then proceed to give advice anyway?
Kids
How about just saying, "Oh.. okay yeah i don't do that but maybe I should start..."
Or just don't go on the Internet admitting how you don't know what you're doing but then proceed to give advice anyway?
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The onus is on YOU because everyone else has the proof regarding torque specs. Why the hell do you think Acura engineers put them there, for giggles?
I provided my proof with Google and the Owner's Manual. Do you want me to find that for you? LMGTFY
Or stop working on other people's cars..
Why are you getting so defensive when everyone is telling you you're wrong?
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There's a difference between being smart vs. being a smart ass...
The onus is on YOU because everyone else has the proof regarding torque specs. Why the hell do you think Acura engineers put them there, for giggles?
I provided my proof with Google and the Owner's Manual. Do you want me to find that for you? LMGTFY
We're talking about lug nuts aren't we? Why are you moving onto other parts of the car..?
My mechanic = me so yes, I have a service manual that I look at every time I work on my car/other people's cars to ensure I don't strip things and over-torque. If your mechanic doesn't, you should find a new one.
Or stop working on other people's cars..
Why are you getting so defensive when everyone is telling you you're wrong?
The onus is on YOU because everyone else has the proof regarding torque specs. Why the hell do you think Acura engineers put them there, for giggles?
I provided my proof with Google and the Owner's Manual. Do you want me to find that for you? LMGTFY
We're talking about lug nuts aren't we? Why are you moving onto other parts of the car..?
My mechanic = me so yes, I have a service manual that I look at every time I work on my car/other people's cars to ensure I don't strip things and over-torque. If your mechanic doesn't, you should find a new one.
Or stop working on other people's cars..
Why are you getting so defensive when everyone is telling you you're wrong?
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I'm sorry I hurt your feelings
Stop spreading misinformation
Stop spreading misinformation
#22
You're acting as if I'm telling people to just ram it home with an impact or just tight it down with a breaker bar... Now that's misinformation... Nothing wrong with the torque specs I've used or I'd be snapping studs and loosing wheels. Which has never happened...
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My 2 cents:
There's two ways to do something. Half assed or the correct way.
In the case of lugs, half assed gets the job done and "hopefully" with an element of safety.
The correct way is to do it per engineered specifications. This will eliminate guess work and ensure that too much or too little force in not exerted on the soft aluminum they rest on and the rotors behind that, not to mention the the studs themselves. Want a wheel that will roll smoothly for many many years? Torque it properly
There's two ways to do something. Half assed or the correct way.
In the case of lugs, half assed gets the job done and "hopefully" with an element of safety.
The correct way is to do it per engineered specifications. This will eliminate guess work and ensure that too much or too little force in not exerted on the soft aluminum they rest on and the rotors behind that, not to mention the the studs themselves. Want a wheel that will roll smoothly for many many years? Torque it properly
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Darksyne,
Let me explain to you why what you are doing is no right.
1. A 16 year old girl or ladies probably may not be able to remove lug nuts torque at 80 psi, even worse at 95 psi. Assuming 95 is the high limited but it could be higher.
2. The stud and lug nut threads start to deform at some point.
3. Rotors warp from being over torque.
Let me explain to you why what you are doing is no right.
1. A 16 year old girl or ladies probably may not be able to remove lug nuts torque at 80 psi, even worse at 95 psi. Assuming 95 is the high limited but it could be higher.
2. The stud and lug nut threads start to deform at some point.
3. Rotors warp from being over torque.
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#31
When I get my tires done at Discount Tire they have 80 ft-lbs listed on my paperwork as the torque specs. So they know what it is, but they sure don't do a good job at it. I watched them and they put the lug nuts on with the impact gun, then torque them. It took me years to finally realize my brakes start to pulsate a few months *after* having them touch my wheels. New tires, rotation, whatever. They touch them, not long after my brakes start pulsating. I went through a lot of new brakes until I figured out torquing them properly keeps them from pulsing. Now I re-torque them any time anybody touches them, which is really only the tire shop cause I do everything else myself.
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1. 80 lb feet.
2. Star pattern.
3. Retighten after driving around for, say, 25 miles.
#2 and #3 are almost as important as #1. I think mechanics overtorque because they don't anticipate people coming back to the shop for #3.
2. Star pattern.
3. Retighten after driving around for, say, 25 miles.
#2 and #3 are almost as important as #1. I think mechanics overtorque because they don't anticipate people coming back to the shop for #3.
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Don't know where you people get your torque specs from. Most shops will torque your lug nuts to around 90-100 ft/lbs because they don't have time to look for lug nut torque specs. The lock nuts always gets torqued less so they don't get damaged on removal. I've done this on all my cars and the cars I've worked on and never had an issue... Just because it's not what you guys use doesn't mean it's wrong...
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