TL-S "VS" TL-P stock muffler
12-27-2006, 12:04 AM
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TL-S "VS" TL-P stock muffler
Is there even a difference between the two? They look to be exactly the same. I would think the TL-S would be of bigger diameter at least.
I never see/hear of people swapping over the TL-S mufflers on their TL-P as it was very popular of the RSX guys going to the RSX-S exhaust.
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I never see/hear of people swapping over the TL-S mufflers on their TL-P as it was very popular of the RSX guys going to the RSX-S exhaust.
Just curious
12-27-2006, 12:32 AM
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Well from what I can gather from the Acura archives on hondanews.com they give the exact same description of the exhaust for the TL-S as they do for the CL-S
http://hondanews.com/CatID3014?mid=2...asc&archives=t
http://hondanews.com/CatID3014?mid=2...asc&archives=t
Originally Posted by Honda News
EXHAUST SYSTEM
The lightweight, high-flow, dual-exhaust system in the 2003 TL is designed for low-restriction performance with minimal noise and vibration. The high-output Type-S engine has a larger-diameter exhaust pipe, an increased-flow, low-restriction catalytic converter, and ultra-high-flow capacity dual silencers. The result is a 30 percent increase in exhaust gas flow compared with the 3.2 TL. The Type-S also boasts an aggressive, performance-oriented exhaust note that settles into a subdued tone at cruising speeds. Both the 3.2 TL and the TL Type-S meet LEV standards while the California-edition 3.2 meets ULEV standards
The lightweight, high-flow, dual-exhaust system in the 2003 TL is designed for low-restriction performance with minimal noise and vibration. The high-output Type-S engine has a larger-diameter exhaust pipe, an increased-flow, low-restriction catalytic converter, and ultra-high-flow capacity dual silencers. The result is a 30 percent increase in exhaust gas flow compared with the 3.2 TL. The Type-S also boasts an aggressive, performance-oriented exhaust note that settles into a subdued tone at cruising speeds. Both the 3.2 TL and the TL Type-S meet LEV standards while the California-edition 3.2 meets ULEV standards
12-27-2006, 12:39 AM
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However if you look at the actual parts they are different.
It seems that the CLS B-pipe has one less resonator, the converters are the same,but the mufflers do have different part numbers. Not sure how much the mufflers vary from CLS to TLS. The CLS mufflers are also cheaper too
Acura CL-S exhaust parts
001 18030-S3M-A11 MUFFLER SET, R.
002 18035-S3M-A11 MUFFLER SET, L.
Acura TL-S exhaust parts
001 18030-S0K-A20 MUFFLER SET, R.
002 18035-S0K-A20 MUFFLER SET, L.
It seems that the CLS B-pipe has one less resonator, the converters are the same,but the mufflers do have different part numbers. Not sure how much the mufflers vary from CLS to TLS. The CLS mufflers are also cheaper too
Acura CL-S exhaust parts
001 18030-S3M-A11 MUFFLER SET, R.
002 18035-S3M-A11 MUFFLER SET, L.
Acura TL-S exhaust parts
001 18030-S0K-A20 MUFFLER SET, R.
002 18035-S0K-A20 MUFFLER SET, L.
12-27-2006, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Well from what I can gather from the Acura archives on hondanews.com they give the exact same description of the exhaust for the TL-S as they do for the CL-S
http://hondanews.com/CatID3014?mid=2...asc&archives=t
http://hondanews.com/CatID3014?mid=2...asc&archives=t
And yes, I was comparing TL-P to TL-S. Also brings up the CL-P vs CL-S muffler differences.
12-27-2006, 01:53 AM
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According to acuraoemparts.com the Mufflers for the TL-S and TL-P have different part numbers, so they must be different in some way. My guess would be the diameter.
TL-S
-Left Muffler # 18035 S0K-A20
-Right Muffler # 1830 S0K-A20
TL-P
-Left Muffler # 18035 S0K-A01
-Right Muffler # 18030 S0K-A01
The difference is in the A-01 or 20.
TL-S
-Left Muffler # 18035 S0K-A20
-Right Muffler # 1830 S0K-A20
TL-P
-Left Muffler # 18035 S0K-A01
-Right Muffler # 18030 S0K-A01
The difference is in the A-01 or 20.
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12-27-2006, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisQ1980
According to this the reason the TL-S gets more flow is from the B-pipe, and Cat. They don't mention an advantage to the mufflers.
And yes, I was comparing TL-P to TL-S. Also brings up the CL-P vs CL-S muffler differences.
And yes, I was comparing TL-P to TL-S. Also brings up the CL-P vs CL-S muffler differences.
Are you kidding? You do realize that mufflers are refered to as silencers as well?
I thought I made that point quite clear in fact I made that part of the excerpt bold, italicized and underlined!
Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Originally Posted by Honda News
EXHAUST SYSTEM
The lightweight, high-flow, dual-exhaust system in the 2003 TL is designed for low-restriction performance with minimal noise and vibration. The high-output Type-S engine has a larger-diameter exhaust pipe, an increased-flow, low-restriction catalytic converter, and ultra-high-flow capacity dual silencers. The result is a 30 percent increase in exhaust gas flow compared with the 3.2 TL. The Type-S also boasts an aggressive, performance-oriented exhaust note that settles into a subdued tone at cruising speeds. Both the 3.2 TL and the TL Type-S meet LEV standards while the California-edition 3.2 meets ULEV standards
The lightweight, high-flow, dual-exhaust system in the 2003 TL is designed for low-restriction performance with minimal noise and vibration. The high-output Type-S engine has a larger-diameter exhaust pipe, an increased-flow, low-restriction catalytic converter, and ultra-high-flow capacity dual silencers. The result is a 30 percent increase in exhaust gas flow compared with the 3.2 TL. The Type-S also boasts an aggressive, performance-oriented exhaust note that settles into a subdued tone at cruising speeds. Both the 3.2 TL and the TL Type-S meet LEV standards while the California-edition 3.2 meets ULEV standards
12-27-2006, 09:17 AM
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If your looking to try to gain HP there are much better ways that will actually yeild hp gains and cheaper
12-27-2006, 10:37 AM
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According to the information....
I have seen in the past the TL-S exhaust is lower restriction than that of the TL-P. I believe there are no gains when you put the Comptech Exhaust on the the Type-S version, just better than stock sound. I believe that other members dynoed their cars after the Axle Back addition of Comptech and had up to a 12 HP gain, same test on a Type S and had minimal to no gain. This was 3 -4 years ago when they did the test....
12-28-2006, 11:35 PM
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i have the cat back comptech exhaust on my TL-S and its a big difference. the mid pipe is around 3 inches and then flowing into the muffler pipes, so it a big change from stock. the only thing i dislike is how loud the drone is cruising at 60 but 70+ it goes away? and the stock TL-S exhaust for some reason does sound deeper then TL-P.
12-29-2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TLP_TLS
i have the cat back comptech exhaust on my TL-S and its a big difference. the mid pipe is around 3 inches and then flowing into the muffler pipes, so it a big change from stock. the only thing i dislike is how loud the drone is cruising at 60 but 70+ it goes away? and the stock TL-S exhaust for some reason does sound deeper then TL-P.
09-11-2012, 10:50 AM
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ol to answer your guys question they are different. my tls muffler was pushed in so i tired replaceing it with a muffler i found at a salvage yard off a 99 model the diameter is different and does not mount right its fuked up so o cant go back to stock cause i first tried prying the tls muffler to sit right under the bumper. tlp muffler bolts up but tip kinda sits behind the bumper so now i got hurry n replace it or get tsudos or comptech i figure ct cause they are only 100.00 to 200.00 more
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