TL-S Tranny Problem, VIN Number Check UPDATED
#245
Those of you who have not listed your VIN, if you reply to this message, I will add it to the ledger.
This post has been helpful to a lot of members, so it would be nice to keep it current.
At this rate, it may go on forever.
:-jon
This post has been helpful to a lot of members, so it would be nice to keep it current.
At this rate, it may go on forever.
:-jon
#246
Originally posted by oblio98
Those of you who have not listed your VIN, if you reply to this message, I will add it to the ledger.
This post has been helpful to a lot of members, so it would be nice to keep it current.
At this rate, it may go on forever.
:-jon
Those of you who have not listed your VIN, if you reply to this message, I will add it to the ledger.
This post has been helpful to a lot of members, so it would be nice to keep it current.
At this rate, it may go on forever.
:-jon
#247
Go Stros!
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 856
Likes: 5
From: Houston, Tx
I bought my car back in Feb. 19,000+miles and no tranny problems...well, I feel a little slipping when I drive on freeway. I'm gonna bring it into the dealership once I get my new bodykit, some minor bodywork(fix some dings and scratches), and extend out my Greddy Evos then I'll go ahead and drop it off at the dealership assuming that the tranny doesn't go first already (knock on Wood)
#248
Just got the bad news from acura
Well, acura called today and the problem with the car was transmission. I only had the car for 3 weeks and it only had 737 miles on it. They are replacing the transmission but i was wondering if there was any way to get the whole car replaced instead of just the transmission. I mean its a 2003 tl-s and it already has problems...what more if i have it for my whole 4 year lease. Is there a way to request that the car be replaced?...considering that it is under 1000 miles and ive only had it for 3 weeks. This is really pissing me off because i just got the car and im already having problems. Some advice would be really helpful....Thanks alot to all who reply
#251
Re: Just got the bad news from acura
Originally posted by ColdFusionTL
Well, acura called today and the problem with the car was transmission. I only had the car for 3 weeks and it only had 737 miles on it. They are replacing the transmission but i was wondering if there was any way to get the whole car replaced instead of just the transmission. I mean its a 2003 tl-s and it already has problems...what more if i have it for my whole 4 year lease. Is there a way to request that the car be replaced?...considering that it is under 1000 miles and ive only had it for 3 weeks. This is really pissing me off because i just got the car and im already having problems. Some advice would be really helpful....Thanks alot to all who reply
Well, acura called today and the problem with the car was transmission. I only had the car for 3 weeks and it only had 737 miles on it. They are replacing the transmission but i was wondering if there was any way to get the whole car replaced instead of just the transmission. I mean its a 2003 tl-s and it already has problems...what more if i have it for my whole 4 year lease. Is there a way to request that the car be replaced?...considering that it is under 1000 miles and ive only had it for 3 weeks. This is really pissing me off because i just got the car and im already having problems. Some advice would be really helpful....Thanks alot to all who reply
#252
Re: Just got the bad news from acura
Originally posted by ColdFusionTL
...but i was wondering if there was any way to get the whole car replaced instead of just the transmission. I mean its a 2003 tl-s and it already has problems...what more if i have it for my whole 4 year lease. Is there a way to request that the car be replaced?...considering that it is under 1000 miles and ive only had it for 3 weeks...
...but i was wondering if there was any way to get the whole car replaced instead of just the transmission. I mean its a 2003 tl-s and it already has problems...what more if i have it for my whole 4 year lease. Is there a way to request that the car be replaced?...considering that it is under 1000 miles and ive only had it for 3 weeks...
Like someone else said, if the tranny goes bad a few times, then it's a different story. Besides, didn't you say that it was a lease? I understand that you want a car that doesn't have any major problems during ownership, but it's not as if you're gonna keep the car forever...
#256
The same thing happened to me with my old Intrepid. I had it for 650 miles, then the tranny went. They wouldn't take the car itself back but replaced the transmission totally under warranty (took some work--they wanted only to replace the solenoids, but when they told me it was 6 weeks wait for the part and only two weeks for a complete tranny, it was a no-brainer to argue).
I had no further problems with the car for the remaining 40000 miles I owned it. If not for the tranny, it would've been the most reliable car I'd ever owned.
Lessons: a) the dealer ain't gonna give you another car. b) chances that you'll have another major problem with your TL outside of the tranny are pretty small, especially with this model.
I had no further problems with the car for the remaining 40000 miles I owned it. If not for the tranny, it would've been the most reliable car I'd ever owned.
Lessons: a) the dealer ain't gonna give you another car. b) chances that you'll have another major problem with your TL outside of the tranny are pretty small, especially with this model.
#257
Originally posted by SergeyM
Most companies selling computers have a 30-day no-question-asked return policy and all of them will gladly replace your computer with a new one in case of the hard-drive failure.
Most companies selling computers have a 30-day no-question-asked return policy and all of them will gladly replace your computer with a new one in case of the hard-drive failure.
#258
Has anyone seen this recall on on 2003 TL.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...8491.html?NEWS
Number Potentially Involved: 17,551
Dates of Manufacture: June – July 2002
Defect: On certain minivans, sedans, coupes, and sport utility vehicles equipped with V6 engines, a timing belt tensioner pulley on the water pump is misaligned and could cause the timing belt to contact a bolt on the cylinder head. Eventually the belt could be damaged and fail. If the timing belt breaks, the engine will stall, increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy: Dealers will inspect the water pump, and if it is one of the defective pumps, the water pump and timing belt will be replaced. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification began Aug. 30, 2002. Owners who do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Honda at 1-800-999-1099 or Acura at 1-800-382-2238.
[NHTSA Recall No. 02V226]
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...8491.html?NEWS
Number Potentially Involved: 17,551
Dates of Manufacture: June – July 2002
Defect: On certain minivans, sedans, coupes, and sport utility vehicles equipped with V6 engines, a timing belt tensioner pulley on the water pump is misaligned and could cause the timing belt to contact a bolt on the cylinder head. Eventually the belt could be damaged and fail. If the timing belt breaks, the engine will stall, increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy: Dealers will inspect the water pump, and if it is one of the defective pumps, the water pump and timing belt will be replaced. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification began Aug. 30, 2002. Owners who do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Honda at 1-800-999-1099 or Acura at 1-800-382-2238.
[NHTSA Recall No. 02V226]
#259
my tranny's gone....
2002 tl-s with 35,900 miles on it and the tranny's acting up
it only started after i got the fluid flushed.....whenever it shifts from second to third and third to fourth, the car hesitates and it feels like its staying in neutral for a second because it revs up higher and then shifts real jerky
it only started after i got the fluid flushed.....whenever it shifts from second to third and third to fourth, the car hesitates and it feels like its staying in neutral for a second because it revs up higher and then shifts real jerky
#261
i dont even care how long it takes...i jus want them to fix it and then ill probably sell my car
i guess ill go for the car i wanted in the first place.... civic hatch wit b18c5 and all jdm'ed out
or im tryin to convince them to import me a car from japan
i read c-west sells silvia's with skyline motors for around 15000$
i wonder how much the shipping is
i guess ill go for the car i wanted in the first place.... civic hatch wit b18c5 and all jdm'ed out
or im tryin to convince them to import me a car from japan
i read c-west sells silvia's with skyline motors for around 15000$
i wonder how much the shipping is
#264
Just joined the club!
Confirmed this afternoon the trans will be replaced.
2002 TL-S
VIN 001040
29,750 miles
built February 2001
purchased March 15, 2001
In addition to the trans, the front rotors and maybe original pads will be replaced due to a warped rotor. The service writer said there's a TSB on the rotor warpage. Also the RR door window frame exterior tape is puckered again and will be replaced. All under warranty.
Background on the care and handling of this car. It's been a daily driver, surburban/urban 52 mile daily commute. A couple of vacation trips thrown in. It's my spouses car, always driven conservatively. Anally maintained by myself including tranny drain/refills at 15k mi. and 29,600 mi. The first tranny drain indicated nothing significant - amber color fluid not burnt with a small amount of ferrous particulate on the drain plug magnet. The last drain (a week ago) was the same as the first, but with even less ferrous particulate. I did notice a few aluminum chips in the drain pan that looked like machining chips. I'm not really sure if the aluminum chips even came from the tranny, could have come from another garage project.
Failure mode. First indication of a problem was engine reving abnormally during a WOT down shift at 30 to 40 mph. No flashing lights. This was during her Friday morning commute. So, since I've been cautioning her to watch out for strange tranny actions for the past year, she called me after babying the TL-S to work. She wanted to know if she should "test it" on the way home.:wow:
I said no, to baby it. Well, it kept jerking while rolling it bumper-to-bumper traffic, so she took it straight to St. Louis Acura. I called ahead to tell them she was coming. They had a loaner car ready for her.
St. Louis Acura diagnosed it today (Saturday!), no details, and ordered the tranny and other parts. All parts should be in Tuesday and the car ready Wednesday afternoon.
I'm really glad we got the 7yr/100k mi. free tranny warranty extension. I've got time fro two more replacements, unless Honda/Acura solved the problem.
John
2002 TL-S
VIN 001040
29,750 miles
built February 2001
purchased March 15, 2001
In addition to the trans, the front rotors and maybe original pads will be replaced due to a warped rotor. The service writer said there's a TSB on the rotor warpage. Also the RR door window frame exterior tape is puckered again and will be replaced. All under warranty.
Background on the care and handling of this car. It's been a daily driver, surburban/urban 52 mile daily commute. A couple of vacation trips thrown in. It's my spouses car, always driven conservatively. Anally maintained by myself including tranny drain/refills at 15k mi. and 29,600 mi. The first tranny drain indicated nothing significant - amber color fluid not burnt with a small amount of ferrous particulate on the drain plug magnet. The last drain (a week ago) was the same as the first, but with even less ferrous particulate. I did notice a few aluminum chips in the drain pan that looked like machining chips. I'm not really sure if the aluminum chips even came from the tranny, could have come from another garage project.
Failure mode. First indication of a problem was engine reving abnormally during a WOT down shift at 30 to 40 mph. No flashing lights. This was during her Friday morning commute. So, since I've been cautioning her to watch out for strange tranny actions for the past year, she called me after babying the TL-S to work. She wanted to know if she should "test it" on the way home.:wow:
I said no, to baby it. Well, it kept jerking while rolling it bumper-to-bumper traffic, so she took it straight to St. Louis Acura. I called ahead to tell them she was coming. They had a loaner car ready for her.
St. Louis Acura diagnosed it today (Saturday!), no details, and ordered the tranny and other parts. All parts should be in Tuesday and the car ready Wednesday afternoon.
I'm really glad we got the 7yr/100k mi. free tranny warranty extension. I've got time fro two more replacements, unless Honda/Acura solved the problem.
John
#266
Intermediate
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Clearwater, Florida
Re: Just joined the club!
Originally posted by John Weidenbenner
Confirmed this afternoon the trans will be replaced.
2002 TL-S
VIN 001040
29,750 miles
built February 2001
purchased March 15, 2001
In addition to the trans, the front rotors and maybe original pads will be replaced due to a warped rotor. The service writer said there's a TSB on the rotor warpage. Also the RR door window frame exterior tape is puckered again and will be replaced. All under warranty.
Background on the care and handling of this car. It's been a daily driver, surburban/urban 52 mile daily commute. A couple of vacation trips thrown in. It's my spouses car, always driven conservatively. Anally maintained by myself including tranny drain/refills at 15k mi. and 29,600 mi. The first tranny drain indicated nothing significant - amber color fluid not burnt with a small amount of ferrous particulate on the drain plug magnet. The last drain (a week ago) was the same as the first, but with even less ferrous particulate. I did notice a few aluminum chips in the drain pan that looked like machining chips. I'm not really sure if the aluminum chips even came from the tranny, could have come from another garage project.
Failure mode. First indication of a problem was engine reving abnormally during a WOT down shift at 30 to 40 mph. No flashing lights. This was during her Friday morning commute. So, since I've been cautioning her to watch out for strange tranny actions for the past year, she called me after babying the TL-S to work. She wanted to know if she should "test it" on the way home.:wow:
I said no, to baby it. Well, it kept jerking while rolling it bumper-to-bumper traffic, so she took it straight to St. Louis Acura. I called ahead to tell them she was coming. They had a loaner car ready for her.
St. Louis Acura diagnosed it today (Saturday!), no details, and ordered the tranny and other parts. All parts should be in Tuesday and the car ready Wednesday afternoon.
I'm really glad we got the 7yr/100k mi. free tranny warranty extension. I've got time fro two more replacements, unless Honda/Acura solved the problem.
John
Confirmed this afternoon the trans will be replaced.
2002 TL-S
VIN 001040
29,750 miles
built February 2001
purchased March 15, 2001
In addition to the trans, the front rotors and maybe original pads will be replaced due to a warped rotor. The service writer said there's a TSB on the rotor warpage. Also the RR door window frame exterior tape is puckered again and will be replaced. All under warranty.
Background on the care and handling of this car. It's been a daily driver, surburban/urban 52 mile daily commute. A couple of vacation trips thrown in. It's my spouses car, always driven conservatively. Anally maintained by myself including tranny drain/refills at 15k mi. and 29,600 mi. The first tranny drain indicated nothing significant - amber color fluid not burnt with a small amount of ferrous particulate on the drain plug magnet. The last drain (a week ago) was the same as the first, but with even less ferrous particulate. I did notice a few aluminum chips in the drain pan that looked like machining chips. I'm not really sure if the aluminum chips even came from the tranny, could have come from another garage project.
Failure mode. First indication of a problem was engine reving abnormally during a WOT down shift at 30 to 40 mph. No flashing lights. This was during her Friday morning commute. So, since I've been cautioning her to watch out for strange tranny actions for the past year, she called me after babying the TL-S to work. She wanted to know if she should "test it" on the way home.:wow:
I said no, to baby it. Well, it kept jerking while rolling it bumper-to-bumper traffic, so she took it straight to St. Louis Acura. I called ahead to tell them she was coming. They had a loaner car ready for her.
St. Louis Acura diagnosed it today (Saturday!), no details, and ordered the tranny and other parts. All parts should be in Tuesday and the car ready Wednesday afternoon.
I'm really glad we got the 7yr/100k mi. free tranny warranty extension. I've got time fro two more replacements, unless Honda/Acura solved the problem.
John
Did you get a letter in the mail from Acura about your extended transmission warranty? I have 2000 TL that is beginning to exhibit some of the similiar things as your TL-S. Am I to call my original dealer or wait for something to come in the mail?
#267
rhvehoc,
Go to acura.com and sign up for owner link. You have to enter your VIN on owner link to register. From there, it will tell you on the first page after you log in if your car is covered in the transmission warranty and the ignition recall programs.
Go to acura.com and sign up for owner link. You have to enter your VIN on owner link to register. From there, it will tell you on the first page after you log in if your car is covered in the transmission warranty and the ignition recall programs.
#269
There's a back order condition on the tranny again. Mine was to be ready last Wed. No call from St Louis Acura, so I called yesterday. They said I'm number 51 on the tranny list! Should be ready next Wed. We'll see.
John W.
02 TLS
96 Z28 M6 converttible
93 SHO atx
John W.
02 TLS
96 Z28 M6 converttible
93 SHO atx
#272
The TL-S was finished Wednesday. 19 days in the dealer.
I addition to the tranny, rear door frame tape was replaced (again), and brake rotors turned. Now worse than before! Also fixed a wind noise in the rear.
$3613 all under warranty.
The parts guy said only 2 trannys came in for the 3 TL-S in their shop. There still appears to be a tranny shortage.
John W.
02 TLS 30k miles
96 Z28 M6 convertible
93 SHO atx
I addition to the tranny, rear door frame tape was replaced (again), and brake rotors turned. Now worse than before! Also fixed a wind noise in the rear.
$3613 all under warranty.
The parts guy said only 2 trannys came in for the 3 TL-S in their shop. There still appears to be a tranny shortage.
John W.
02 TLS 30k miles
96 Z28 M6 convertible
93 SHO atx
#273
Originally posted by pianoman41
Jon,
I edited your original post and added myself to the overall total, as well as listing my VIN and name to the list. I'm not sure if you're still updating or not.....
Jon,
I edited your original post and added myself to the overall total, as well as listing my VIN and name to the list. I'm not sure if you're still updating or not.....
Well, I sorta stopped at 70. I figured that there was no point in tallying up the inevitable, but....what the hell!!
(BTW - We had over 13,000 views, now it says 800+. What's the deal?)
:-jon
#276
I think my '03 TL-S may be a victim of the tranny problem......I picked up the car on 3/28/02 and already have 22,300 miles. It seems like the car sometimes does not know what gear to go into. When slowing down (especially for EZ Pass tolls) and then hitting the gas to get going again, I sometimes hear a bang and the car shoots forward like it violently downshifted....
When driving back from Boston to NJ this past weekend, on the highway, it felt like the car downshifted and then upshifted quickly, but it happened 5 times within a half hour. It also feels like the car starts to buck around 40mph. I commute 52 miles each way to work and back each day and now feel unsafe. I find myself driving without the radio and both hands on the wheel at all times just in case. (I usually drive with one hand and the radio really loud!!) The car is going in this Friday, but I guarantee I get sent back home at the end of the day saying they did not find a problem..........
When driving back from Boston to NJ this past weekend, on the highway, it felt like the car downshifted and then upshifted quickly, but it happened 5 times within a half hour. It also feels like the car starts to buck around 40mph. I commute 52 miles each way to work and back each day and now feel unsafe. I find myself driving without the radio and both hands on the wheel at all times just in case. (I usually drive with one hand and the radio really loud!!) The car is going in this Friday, but I guarantee I get sent back home at the end of the day saying they did not find a problem..........
#280
Re: Re: Tranny is probably gone today!
Originally posted by Yoyodyne
Questor:
Your dealer is either incompetent or lying---neither of these things is a good sign.
When I brought mine in because it was exhibiting the same symptoms that you experienced, they said the tranny had to come out and they never batted an eye.
In fact they told me that they had "replaced about 20 of these so far."
Now maybe your people haven't seen it happen at their shop yet, but I have to believe that Acura has sent out all kinds of memos to their Service Departments about this.
So it's a little fishy to me that they would plead ingnorance at this late date.
Questor:
Your dealer is either incompetent or lying---neither of these things is a good sign.
When I brought mine in because it was exhibiting the same symptoms that you experienced, they said the tranny had to come out and they never batted an eye.
In fact they told me that they had "replaced about 20 of these so far."
Now maybe your people haven't seen it happen at their shop yet, but I have to believe that Acura has sent out all kinds of memos to their Service Departments about this.
So it's a little fishy to me that they would plead ingnorance at this late date.
The problem with dealers is, Honda tells them one thing and then another; Honda says to cover the tranny under warranty and then without warning, others are denied warranty/that tranny is defective.
It boils down to either Honda telling its dealers to SAVE money and hence get REIMBURSED through another method OR, it encourages its dealers to cover the warranty and admit fault.
There's obviously an incentive for dealers to cover transmission claims under warranty; however, at the same time, there's likely a limit as to how many DEFECTIVE trannies can be repaired at NO COST to the consumer hence them denying that the tranny is defective.