Our TL-P redlines around 6,800 or whatever. What is meant by increasing the redline? I mean u can still go past the redline mark and drive it, even tho is dangerous. What difference would it make to increase the redline, rather than just go past 6800 and redline? I really dont know shit about this. Someone inform me. haha


thanks

 

dont worry about it, there isnt much power to gain - if any, once you go past redline. redline is there for a reason, if you abuse it, your engine will not be happy, and you could really f' something up.

 

put in SS and try it yourself

i alwasy hit into redline til 7000rpm

 

Man I'm glad I didn't buy my car from one of you guys who runs the redline

 

LOL
for TL-P the redline is at 6250rpm, but actually you can hold up to 7000rpm b4 the rev limiter comes in

so it has been designed for that, you can feel the power is still going strong, esp if you have a header~

 

Redlining doesn't hurt the engine as long as its not abused. True that it isn't much power gain, but the whole point of actually reving so high is to be at a higher RPM at the next gear. Well thats what I use it for (usually done at the track).

 

wrong...the rev limiter kiks in at about 7300-7400...ever forget about SS while you're partially asleep with very loud music on?

anyhows, DONT OVER REV...but its been dynoproven that an Tl keeps producing power after redline.

I personally never let the car rev over 3000-3500TOPS when i drive around.
BUT, when i race, i redline 1st and 2nd but over rev 3rd untill 125 (6500rpm) which is where my 4th ('99 TL) picks up vtec @ 4000RPM (got vafc) and rip away from YOU!




MORAL: dont mess and keep away from redline untill you get a a Forged crank, forged rods and pistons, probably new valve train and some very thick oil....OH, and a suped up tranny

 

nah, mine tops at 7000rpm with the rev limiter

 

I thought on the TL-Ps, the redline was 6300rpms, and for the Type S the redline was 6900rpms? The increased redline is one of the reasons Acura sighted for the Type S being faster.

There's a difference between redline and fuel cutoff, redline is the manufacturer's "high end" recommended point where you should upshift. Fuel cutoff is when the ECU says enough is enough and cuts timing to prevent engine damage. In automatic mode, I would assume that the ECU probably auto upshifts at or near redline, while in SS or shifting yourself using the 1>2,D3,D4,D5 modes you may be able to squeeze out a couple extra hundred rpms by revving past redline but not hitting fuel cutoff. Fuel cutoff is a killer if you're doing 1/4 mile racing or racing against someone else.

I'd be pretty surprised if the TL-P's fuel cutoff was 7000rpms, which is quite a bit higher than its redline. Usually like I said, fuel cutoff is only a few hundred more rpms than redline. Case in point, the MY04 S2000's redline is 8000rpms, but its fuel cutoff is 8200 rpms.

I'd also imagine that unless there is a significant difference in terms of the strength of the materials used on the TL-P versus the TL-S, that the TL-P should be able to sustain 7000rpms with no problems. I'm not 100% sure on all the differences between the two engines, so I wouldn't go and test out my theory without checking first

BTW - According to Acura, on the 2000 TL-P, the redline is 6300rpms, and fuel cutoff is 6600rpms. (Source: http://www.hondanews.com/CatID3016?m...&archives=2000)

 

i have done many times and i am pretty sure the fuel cutoff is at 7000rpm

if i leave at auto it shifts at redline but the SS can hold up to 7000rpm without a problem

 

I second that, I was racing my buddy and lost track of a few seconds and when I looked I was at 7k rpm so I quickly shifted. The TLP pulls very good upto that point - though its probably not good for it, but when I went to 2nd gear, I was in the meat of the power!

 

for the 5 spd, the 3rd to 4th has such a big difference because the 4 is already in OD therefore you need to juice out all the 3rd b4 you shift into 4th to keep it up

 

Ah, well Sport Shift seems even more useful for you TL-P guys then. Us Type S owners in D5 mode will get up to about 6900rpms before the car upshifts, but fuel cutoff is somewhere around 7000-7200rpms, so it doesn't make a huge difference.

I'm curious how much you would improve or worsen your 1/4 miles times by upshifting the TL-P at 7000rpms each every shift versus doing it at 6300rpms. There's probably some sort of in between number that will get you guys better 1/4 mile times by shifting higher into the rpm range.

 

hard to say because the max hp and torque is at about 6000-6300 RPM, but by shifting slightly after that, you will hit the next gear that much higher in the RPM range - so might be worth it

"us TLP guys" hahaha, damnit!!!

 

just a little funfact....

i'm sure you're aware that if you redline a tl in SS mode it'll just upshift.....a 2004 TSX doesn't do that....it just bounces off the rev limiter in 1st and makes the car kick back and forth....isn't that really stupid??

(...i was engaging in a manuver to escape danger....)

 

with header it makes a big difference coz you get 20hp more at 6700rpm

 

The 99 TL does that as well and I don't consider it stupid. It allows me to hold 1st gear when coming onto an onramp. Makes a HUGE difference vs having it automatically shift into 2nd.

 

the SS in TL only upshift from 1st to 2nd, afterwards it won't upshift itself

i know that coz i did that in a TSX while i was having a test drive

 

SS doesnt shift from 1-2 automatically in the '99 TL

 

i know
only for the 5spd

 

yeah i see how it could be usefull.....i rarely go up there in my TL....only in D5 under WOT once in a while.....i thought it was really funny though....

 

you don't need to WOT with this car, coz it has more than enough power to handle any situations such as lane merging on hwy or passing

 

exactly

 

Those of us with 5-Speed can always use gate-shifting to hold the first gear . But I only do that at the track

 

My 04 TL is much more limiting with respect to the redline. As soon as it hits the red area, it automatically hits the rev limmiter. Im still having a tough time not hitting the rev limmiter because I'm so used to my Type S.

I rip off 7100 RPM shifts in my TL-S whenever I really want to push it. I love how my TL-S lets me go into the red like that since there is still soooo much power left in this engine. My 04 has TONS more power up there too, but even gate shifting into 1st will automatically shift before the red in 1st gear.

 

bummer, the 3rd gen TL is really held back by the computer

 

OK guys lol you guys that say our rev limiter is 7200 is funny. All because the gauges say that doesnt mean thats what it is.

I had my VAFC2 hooked up and did several tests with it. I put about 10-20 digs with it, every time i gate shifted it would shift at 6990ish. The couple times I wasnt watching the revs i hit 7051 that was bouncing off the rev limiter.

And I assure you the vafc is an accurate measure as it is piggybacking the data through the ecu.

 

Well, I knew I was estimating. Thats why I gave a range (7000-7200) of where the fuel cutoff is because I don't really know what the fuel cutoff is. From what I understand, the ECU is trying its best to limit the revs as quickly as possible so it isn't always at the exact same rpm that fuel cutoff occurs but rather around a certain number.

 

so how do you increase the redline, n how do you no how far you can go?

 

The redline is what's marked on the tach, which is less than the rpm where the rev limiter kicks in. I imagine you need to re-program the computer to change where the rev limiter kicks in.

 

you cant! no one yet has a way to increase the redline. and increasing it wont give you more power. you would need to have mods that take advantage of the rpm, like different cams. the only way to know is to dyno the car and adjust from the curve

 

keep hitting the rev limiter for one hr a day and you will get up to 8000rpm in a week or 2

 

good idea!

 

omg let me go and try it right now !!! lmao