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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Ok guys well the TL i just got was a 99, its almost at 98000 and a guy i knew said that the tranny is under warrenty until 100,000, so i was wondering i just want them to change it, just in case would they do that or do i have to make up some elaborate story to get them to change it before 100000?


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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Ok guys well the TL i just got was a 99, its almost at 98000 and a guy i knew said that the tranny is under warrenty until 100,000, so i was wondering i just want them to change it, just in case would they do that or do i have to make up some elaborate story to get them to change it before 100000?


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Brian, I have not had my transmission replaced (knock on wood), but in reading the letter that was sent out regarding the transmission replacement (see below), it appears that Acura will perform an inspection of the transmission to see if a replacement is warranted. Having said that I'm not sure that an elaborate story would work if, in your case, the technicians can not find a legitimate reason to replace it

Safety Recall: CL and TL Automatic Transmission Second Gear Inspection

Dear Acura Owner:


This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act.

What is the reason for this notice?
Honda Motor Co., Ltd. has decided that a defect relating to motor vehicle safety exists in certain 2001-03 3.2CLs, 2000-03 3.2TLs, and 2004 TLs.

Certain operating conditions can result in heat buildup in the transmission second gear set and may lead to gear tooth chipping. In very rare cases, gear breakage can occur. Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up, and a crash could occur without warning.

What should you do?
Call any authorized Acura dealer and make an appointment to have your vehicle repaired. For vehicles with less than 15,000 miles, the dealer will install an oil jet kit to provide additional lubrication to the gears. For vehicles with more than 15,000 miles, the dealer will inspect the affected gear for heat discoloration, which indicates possible damage. If heat discoloration exists, the dealer will replace the transmission. If heat discoloration is not found, the dealer will install an oil jet kit. This work will be done free of charge. Please plan to leave your vehicle all day to allow the dealer flexibility in scheduling the inspection and installing the oil jet kit. If transmission replacement is needed, the work will take more than one day.

Who to contact if you experience problems.
If you are not satisfied with the service you receive from your Honda dealer, you may write to:


American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Honda Automobile Customer Service
Mail Stop 500-2N-7A
1919 Torrance Blvd.
Torrance, CA 90501-2746

If you believe that American Honda or the dealer has failed or is unable to remedy the defect in your vehicle, without charge, within a reasonable period of time (60 days from the date you first contact the dealer for a repair appointment), you may submit a complaint to:

Administrator
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
400 Seventh Street, SW
Washington, DC 20590

Or call the toll-free Safety Hotline at (888) 327-4236.

What to do if you feel this notice is in error.
Our records show that you are the current owner or lessee of a 2001-03 3.2CL, 2000-03 3.2TL, or 2004 TL involved in this campaign. If this is not the case, or the name/address information is not correct, please fill out and return the enclosed, postage-paid Information Change Card. We will then update our records.

If you paid to have the transmission replaced, you may be eligible for reimbursement. Refer to the attached instructions for eligibility requirements and the reimbursement procedure.

Lessor Information.
Federal law requires that any vehicle lessor receiving this recall notice must forward a copy of this notice to the lessee within 10 days.

If you have questions.
If you have any questions about this notice, or need assistance with contacting an Acura dealer, please call Acura Client Services at (800) 382-2238, and select menu option #2.

We apologize for any inconvenience this campaign may cause you.

Sincerely,

American Honda Motor Co., Inc.

Acura Automobile Division
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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They will not change it for you if there is nothing wrong. The dealer will have a tech look at it and if he cant find any thing wrong he will send you on your way
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Unfortuantly thats what i though, i went to Acura today and attempted to make up that story, but when the tech came back he looked under the car, it appeared that i have a brand new rebuilt tranny in there, so i hope he wasnt just bs-ing me you know, but time will tell. The thing i dont like most is that, i hear the trannys go out at about 101-105,000 anyway so why dont they warranty them then, they know its going to happen why treat your customers like that????
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TLBrian
Unfortuantly thats what i though, i went to Acura today and attempted to make up that story, but when the tech came back he looked under the car, it appeared that i have a brand new rebuilt tranny in there, so i hope he wasnt just bs-ing me you know, but time will tell. The thing i dont like most is that, i hear the trannys go out at about 101-105,000 anyway so why dont they warranty them then, they know its going to happen why treat your customers like that????
they do cover them after 100k miles - many people on this site have had that done. I am on my original tranny with my '99 TL and I'm at 99900 miles now.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Unfortuantly thats what i though, i went to Acura today and attempted to make up that story, but when the tech came back he looked under the car, it appeared that i have a brand new rebuilt tranny in there, so i hope he wasnt just bs-ing me you know, but time will tell. The thing i dont like most is that, i hear the trannys go out at about 101-105,000 anyway so why dont they warranty them then, they know its going to happen why treat your customers like that????

But how long ago was the tranny replaced? It may have been replaced just recently. Therefore, it would make no sense to replace it again if it was just replaced....
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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all i've got to say is get rid of that bish before the 100k miles. even if your story managed to get another tranny installed, it would most likely be a rebuilt one. and there's no telling how crappily "rebuilt" it may be. believe you me.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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all i've got to say is get rid of that bish before the 100k miles. even if your story managed to get another tranny installed, it would most likely be a rebuilt one. and there's no telling how crappily "rebuilt" it may be. believe you me.
well he just got it...so I doubt he is going to sell it now, and the 4 speed tranny is much better reliability wise vs. the 5 speed one.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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If you want your tranny replaced drive it to 20mph and slam it in to park .
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by UglyPsycho
If you want your tranny replaced drive it to 20mph and slam it in to park .
Drive to Reverse would work better. Park would just break the parking pin.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JPTL-S
Brian, I have not had my transmission replaced (knock on wood), but in reading the letter that was sent out regarding the transmission replacement (see below), it appears that Acura will perform an inspection of the transmission to see if a replacement is warranted. Having said that I'm not sure that an elaborate story would work if, in your case, the technicians can not find a legitimate reason to replace it

99TL doesn't get the oil jet kit.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Well since I just got the car I dont know how long this new tranny has been in it, but the tech said the bolts around the tranny were blue or something as if it was a really really fresh job, so I hope this tranny last i have my fingers crossed!!!
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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you dont have to worry much about our 99 trannies. theyre alot better than the 5 speeds plus i have many mods into my engine and i drive extremely hard.. my tranny is still running strong. i have 92,000 miles on my 99
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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The failure rate is still well above average for the 99s... they wouldn't have extended warranties otherwise.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Drive to Reverse would work better. Park would just break the parking pin.
Except theres a lockout at ~7mph (but im sure you knew that :wink: )


Originally Posted by TLBrian
Unfortuantly thats what i though, i went to Acura today and attempted to make up that story, but when the tech came back he looked under the car, it appeared that i have a brand new rebuilt tranny in there, so i hope he wasnt just bs-ing me you know, but time will tell. The thing i dont like most is that, i hear the trannys go out at about 101-105,000 anyway so why dont they warranty them then, they know its going to happen why treat your customers like that????
Thats misinformation, there isnt an increased amout of trannies that fail specifically between 101k and 105k
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by alpswd
Except theres a lockout at ~7mph (but im sure you knew that :wink: )
Ok reverse to drive i know that works at all speeds (done it from atleast 20mph on last failure)! (but i highly doubt that would break our trannies, since they are strong internals (other than the 3rd gear clutchpack which wouldnt be abused durring a reverse to drive)
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Doesn't the PCM protect the transmission if you shift from D5 to R while at speed? Or is it a mechanical linkage that the PCM has no control over?
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Doesn't the PCM protect the transmission if you shift from D5 to R while at speed? Or is it a mechanical linkage that the PCM has no control over?
Drive to reverse it does, but not reverse to drive
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