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Old 02-22-2001, 08:42 AM
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Ever since i got shitted on by that civic I was contiplating getting NOS. But I want it where the install is stealth and also if i ever take it out i don't want anything to show i had NOS in the car in the first place. also whats a safe shot? My friend can sell me his kit for 300 but with a 130 shot i think, i forgot what he said bt its in the hundreds.

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Old 02-22-2001, 08:54 AM
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also with 18's coming on soon i'm just slowing myself down so i need a quick picker upper

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Yo Mafioso,

Talk to Stylin Silver Sled. He's got a 60 shot I think. I don't understand much about what it means, but I think the higher the number, the more "bang" for the buck. I would think 130 shot would cause a nice fiery explosion under the hood. Could be wrong.

BTW, depending on what wheels you get, the weight difference may not be too bad. I think my C2s weigh about 22lbs each, so with 18" tires it's not too bad. Haven't noticed much of a difference.

I say get the VTEC controller first. It's less desctructive and might give you a nice boost in power.

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Old 02-22-2001, 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by NSXNEXT:
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I say get the VTEC controller first. It's less desctructive and might give you a nice boost in power.

I was thinking that but people were saying that its not really that good for a stock car, only if i had mods. only mod i have is the intake. I think NOS is the best bang for the buck, plus if a get my friends kit 300 isn't so bad. it came off of a eclipse, does anyone know if that matters? Does the NOS kit fit universally or do i need a exact placement?



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Old 02-22-2001, 09:16 AM
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The recommended shot for NOS is half the engines HP maximum. But that still is pushing it, I think 80 shot should be max for our TL's. I dont think it can handle 100 plus shot.
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if thats the case, couldn't i just buy his set and replace the bottle with a 60-70 shot? how much do the bottles cost?

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Old 02-22-2001, 09:53 AM
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You replace the solenoid, not the bottle. Look at the Venom nitrous, it just has one solenoid and the computer controls waht show you want without havign to replace the solenoid.
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It's not the bottle that controls shot size, its the nozzle or jet. The numbers. ie 130 or 60 is how much HP boost to expect. It is the displacement of the engine that determines how much you should "squeeze". Bigger engines can take more than smaller. The upper limit for a V6 is around 85-100 shot. You can shoot more than that if you don't mind seeing your pistions put some "speed holes" in your hood. Several Legend owners are using between 60-75 shots with no trouble. Hope this helps.
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OH hell yeah, VENOM makes a sweet azz kit
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I don’t know jack about NOS, & was wondering out of curiosity of any internal wear & tear concerns with its use.
Old 02-22-2001, 12:54 PM
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ok, so if i buy the kit from the kid, it would work? even though it was from a 4 cylinder elipse?? I would probably go for a 60-70 shot. Mike tell me more about the solenoid, think it'll be expensive to replace? BTW what gains should i expect from the NOS when shot?

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Wassup Guys,
I'm running a NOS Dry Kit(36 Jet/45-50HP)
for NOS company there is mainly (2) different systems
(1)Dry Kit - Simple and universal kit that taps into your air intake. HP between 40-100

(2)Wet Kit/Fogger - Shots into the intake manifold or comes with a plate. HP between 80-250

If you run a Dry Kit(45-70HP) and it's properly installed, colder plugs(with a small shot, there is no need to retard the timing) I use NGK "V" 1 colder(I think 6) and gap it one down(Factory - 44, NGK - 40), and do not abuse it.. You shouldn't run into any problems.

It sounds like he's selling a dry kit($300)
I would go to your local Import Shop and order a smaller jet(40-70HP), I would start small because at first I wanted a 70HP shot but with the (45-50Shot, Exhaust, Headers and Intake) I ran a 13.99. Well enough to smoke a CVC Then if you feel you want more, go a jet higher(just remember that the higher you go, the more stress we're putting on the trans! but Stylin' is running a 70HP Shot and it's all good) I do not recommend anything higher than 70HP Shot!!

As for setup.
I would set it up we're it activates the solenoid only on full throttle and the main toggle switch has to be on! This is a double safety(If something should go wrong, release the gas or turn off the toggle and the NOS shuts off).
Also, about the bottle, I'm not sure how much it cost but it's a good idea because with a 45-50HP Shot, I only get about 60-75 sec. of Juice which cost about $40-50 a refill.

Finally,
I cannot begin to explain the kick you get with a NOS setup, not like turbo or SC(no lag, not progressive) instant 45-70HP talk about a head jerker and wheel spin!! If you want to sell it and take it out, it's simple, since your only tapping into the air intake, just replace the air intake with your factory one.
Old 02-22-2001, 01:30 PM
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hmmmmmm, so i don't need to press a button for the NOS to shoot? all i have to do is stomp on the gas and thats it? wow i gotta see where i can get it set up that way around my area. if his right now is a 130 shot how much would it be to replace it with a 60- 70shot? and with those 60secs how long doesn't that usually last you?? (sounds like a stupid question but i mean if you stomp on the gas does the nos keep shooting till you let up or does it just shoot once till i press it again?) thanks

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Old 02-22-2001, 03:01 PM
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MafiosoTL, if your only mod in the car is the intake, I would recommend going with something else first other than NOS.

Considering that the TL actually drops out of VTEC when making its shifts and you already have an intake, a VAFC would probably help your car alot. No it's not going to drop your 1/4 mile times as much as NOS will, but you will be able to enjoy it every single day.

NOS is the cheapest way to get lots of horsepower, but you can't use it all the time either. Venom's kit is very nice, but also very expensive. You make the call.
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Damn I should've not read this thread.
Old 02-22-2001, 07:05 PM
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well i'm getting it not for everyday use. just incase some sleeper civic tried to sneak up on me

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Old 02-22-2001, 07:35 PM
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I've never sat in a car with NOS, but how long after you hit the button does the boost last? Minutes? Seconds?

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Old 02-22-2001, 07:53 PM
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damn where the hells dherin when you need him

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Old 02-22-2001, 08:04 PM
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Considering that the TL actually drops out of VTEC when making
its shifts and you already have an intake, a VAFC would probably
help your car alot. No it's not going to drop your 1/4 mile times as
much as NOS will, but you will be able to enjoy it every single
day.
The V-AFC will not help your car all that much, being that you only have a Intake, to take full use of it, you have to have a decent amount of mods.
True the NOS does last a short time but say your racing a CVC SI which beat you off the line, It takes time for our V-Tec to kick in and our car is about the same weight as an elephant ! ! but with a 50HP Shot you can take him off the line, then when your ahead of him, turn the NOS off and with our V6 Vtec motor, he shouldn't be able to keep up!!
So I understand that NOS isn't a constant boost but, I never said it was. If you use it in a similiar situation, it should last you awhile. I mean personally I wouldn't run NOS straight for 60-75 Sec. constant!!!
PhiTL,
I have a 36Jet(45-50HP) and I run 13.99-14.27, I had about 4-5 runs. How long it last depends on what size jet you use, the bigger the jet(higher HP's) the faster it'll run out!!
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once you hit full throttle..give it at most 1 second...or less...much less.....and you'll blast away!

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Thanks Tanner, what about how long does the extra horse power stay at its peak? When the bottle runs out, or when you let go of the trigger/full throttle?

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Old 02-23-2001, 07:56 AM
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So tanner or whoever else has NOS, where does it tap into in the engine? do i need to cut anything? I just want it so i can take it out and have everything back to normal easily. also to replace the 130 jet with a 60-70 shot how much does that usually cost?

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Not sure how much the jet cost!! The Dry Kit taps into the air intake about 4" from the throttle body and to take it out you would need to plug up the hole in the intake or replace it with the stock intake and of course take out all the hoses, solenoid and wire. It'll take about 3-4 hours to take out.
PhiTL,
As much as it's instant power, it's instant power lose when the NOS is shut off.
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