What is the difference between the two?

I know that TL-P = TCS and TL-S = VSA

Are they the same thing?

 

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Road Rage02-14-2001, 07:02 PM
They are very different. The TCS merely responds to a spinning wheel under 25 mph and brakes that wheel so the transaxle gives more traction to the wheel with grip. In VSA, there is a sensor that uses computer algorithms to assess the current state of the vehicle: Speed, steering angle, direction, yaw. It works at any speed and can alter vehicle dynamics to help maintain directional stability. It also can act as the TCS because it has the same programming needed to give traction by wheel braking. So it is a much more sophisticated system that does double duty.

 

i guess that answers my question, thanks!

 

More info. TCS in the TL sucks, it works by applying the brakes to the slipping wheel. Basically the engine and the brakes are fighting each other.

When VSA detects wheel slippage it applies the brakes to the slipping wheel, and also automatically reduces engine power.

VSA vs. TCS is the MAIN reason I choose the TL-S over the TL-P.

 

i dont like TCS in the TL, i find i kinda of pointless unless its raining. If u are at a light and push it, the wheels barely spin(if they do). If your wheels are turned one way and then hit it, i can see the point of haveing it on.

The only way the traction control can be useful is coming out of coners and then flooring it. Besides, the car is FWD, can it slide?

My TCS light came on the other day driving on US1 in the condtruction zone, i was rolling in D4 and then put it in SS at around 45 -50mph, and the dropped it to 2nd and the light blinked.

 

the tcs should be all speed not up to only 25mph. low speeds is the most usless need for it

 

 

yes the TCS is allspeed. i remember it was 18 mph or 25 mph max on my previous 2001 accord ex-v6 (loaded). and i'd try it at 30 and it'd just slip.....so when my 03 TL was new, during that first winter (call me stupid, but) it was a snowy day, i was on a highway on ramp going 52, and i floored it and sure enough, the TCS came on.....later followed by the VSA because i almost crashed into the guard rail....but that's a different story........so YES, it is all speed....just though i'd share that with you. -later

 

So TL-S has TCS button and VSA button??

 

well if it is they changed it from the 2000 model because mine is usless. it only works up to 25ish. id much rather have it at hwy speeds where its needed.

 

No, just a VSA button. It's one big happy system in the TL-S