Synethic vs. regular
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Synethic vs. regular
Can someone please tell me whats the difference.. besides price and all the technical stuff.. i just wanna know which one is better... the advantages?? thanks :p
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Take a look at these previous posts
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...979#post287979
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=31900
Plus these other sites
www.fernblatt.com/longhurst/engineoil_bible.html
www.motorcities.com/articles/articles0001.html
For oil filters, look here
http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-o...n-oilpart5.htm
www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...979#post287979
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=31900
Plus these other sites
www.fernblatt.com/longhurst/engineoil_bible.html
www.motorcities.com/articles/articles0001.html
For oil filters, look here
http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-o...n-oilpart5.htm
www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
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Here is a link to a post, that all the Maxima owners have been getting into for tests on oil life.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=100060
There is a link for a oil analysis sheet there. Going 7500k+ on mobil 1 will do just fine. There are not just Maximas being tested. Several brands. This is enough to make you decide.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=100060
There is a link for a oil analysis sheet there. Going 7500k+ on mobil 1 will do just fine. There are not just Maximas being tested. Several brands. This is enough to make you decide.
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The big pro of synthetic is that it is a more durable lubricant under heat and load. And, the additives are typically better.
The advantage of dino oil is that it is less $$.
Mobil 5w-30 for me. It's easier to get than Redline, otherwise I might consider that- it is more expensive, though. I'm changing at 5k intervals now (about every 6 months for me.) I may go to 7500, if we drive a bit more- 6 months is about my threshold of pain, regardless of mileage.
Tip- whatever you use, use a 5W- (or 0W- up North in winter). 10W- is really too thick on startup for quick upper valvetrain lubrication. Of course, we'll have to wait 10 years or so to see if I'm right.![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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The advantage of dino oil is that it is less $$.
Mobil 5w-30 for me. It's easier to get than Redline, otherwise I might consider that- it is more expensive, though. I'm changing at 5k intervals now (about every 6 months for me.) I may go to 7500, if we drive a bit more- 6 months is about my threshold of pain, regardless of mileage.
Tip- whatever you use, use a 5W- (or 0W- up North in winter). 10W- is really too thick on startup for quick upper valvetrain lubrication. Of course, we'll have to wait 10 years or so to see if I'm right.
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i think it's sort of peace of mind vs. convenience vs. price.
for my peace of mind, if you drive pretty normally (50/50 city/highway) and change your oil every 3000 miles, then go with the dino as it's cheaper every change. if you drive 90% highway then you can probably go 7500+ with dino oil. if you drive 50/50 but can't or don't want to change every 3k, then you should go with synthetic and change at 3-5k or even 7.5k.
and if you drive 90% city, you can probably change every 5k with synthetic.
i'm sure this is more than safe for oil changes though. you can probably go 5k w/ dino oil with 90% city driving, but then peace of mind goes out the window.
for my peace of mind, if you drive pretty normally (50/50 city/highway) and change your oil every 3000 miles, then go with the dino as it's cheaper every change. if you drive 90% highway then you can probably go 7500+ with dino oil. if you drive 50/50 but can't or don't want to change every 3k, then you should go with synthetic and change at 3-5k or even 7.5k.
and if you drive 90% city, you can probably change every 5k with synthetic.
i'm sure this is more than safe for oil changes though. you can probably go 5k w/ dino oil with 90% city driving, but then peace of mind goes out the window.
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Redline 5w-20! And with a good oil filter, usually Mobil 1 or Fram, you can go 5000 to 7000 between changes. So even though it costs more, it will pay for itself through less oil changes.
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Originally posted by RDX
Dealer uses what ever they have at the nearest gas station.
for us, Honda , Acura dealer here use
Petrol Canada oil, Gas station branded oil.
Dealer uses what ever they have at the nearest gas station.
for us, Honda , Acura dealer here use
Petrol Canada oil, Gas station branded oil.
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Originally posted by oracion
Does anyone know whether the Acura Service Dept uses synthetic?
Does anyone know whether the Acura Service Dept uses synthetic?
but you can always bring your own of whatever you want to use and save a couple bucks.
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Amsoil 5w-20 here, with Mobil 1 filter. I figured if these engines are built tight enough to warrant 5w-20 spec, I might as well use it.
Thanks for the link speedy. I'm going to try that oil & atf sample service. It looks like a good way to check on wear, as well as ascertain when it's time to change out the synthetic.
eCo
Thanks for the link speedy. I'm going to try that oil & atf sample service. It looks like a good way to check on wear, as well as ascertain when it's time to change out the synthetic.
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In all honestly no one really drives their cars hard enough for synthetic. The synthetic molecules are specially formulated to bond to your engine even when not in use. It really is only beneficial in EXTREME conditons, for instance the oh SAHARA desert of the North pole.
The MAJOR issue with oil and engines is CHANGING the oil every 5k miles. That more than anything will keep that engine going 250k miles + (Honda makes great engines).
SO just change that oil!
The MAJOR issue with oil and engines is CHANGING the oil every 5k miles. That more than anything will keep that engine going 250k miles + (Honda makes great engines).
SO just change that oil!
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In all honestly your post didn't really hit on the key point of syn for standard cars
. Syn molecules are made to do more than what you said though. Higher lubrication ability, viscosity, durability etc. No one disputes that syn is better for your engine than dino, the dispute is HOW MUCH better (aka is it worth it). Personally, the fact that using syn means I can change my oil half as much, thus saving money and saving time (not having to do as many oil changes) is enough for me, especially knowing that I am buying a superior product (even not getting into how superior it is, which is the main big argument that makes these threads 20 pages long).
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In all honestly your post didn't really hit on the key point of syn for standard cars
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I agree. Is it worth the cost. THe synthetic molecule do take longer to break down than conventional oil. SO in your case it would save u time and $$$ especially if u do not drive the car hard.
I change my own oil (I've done it in a TL too
) so I do not mind changing it. I JUST found out last week that my lex dealer uses Castrol Synthetic oil though (which is new, they used to use plain ol Penzoil).
MAYBE THAT CAN JUSTIFY THE $40 OIL CHANGE
BTW I use Castrol, never had a prob. Plus the 2 cars currently running with over 1,000,000 miles (a Volvo and Toyota Starlet) the owners insist on Castrol.
I change my own oil (I've done it in a TL too
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MAYBE THAT CAN JUSTIFY THE $40 OIL CHANGE
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BTW I use Castrol, never had a prob. Plus the 2 cars currently running with over 1,000,000 miles (a Volvo and Toyota Starlet) the owners insist on Castrol.
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