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02-21-2002, 11:01 PM
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There are no superchargers available for the TL. However, comptech is developing one, but who the hell knows when it will be out.
You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.
You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.
02-21-2002, 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed
You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.
You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
02-21-2002, 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Bitium
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
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02-21-2002, 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bitium
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
02-22-2002, 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed
Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
use it as your personal consideration. N2O goes with the flow, it's not forced in, but I understand your point of injection or sprying which seems like is been forced in.
"Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. "
Forced induction means air forced into the cylinder.
02-22-2002, 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed
Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
NOS is not forced induction!!!Nitro contents more Oxygen compared to Air. So, you can inject more gas into the engine. But the compression ratio is unchanged because the % of oxygen levle rose because of NOS got a higher % of oxygen.
While force induction on the other hand simply stuff more air into the engine, so the Oxygen level is the same but the COMPRESSION in the engine is different. You got more air in there, but the volume is the same, because is compressed...
hope this helps
02-22-2002, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by Bitium
use it as your personal consideration. N2O goes with the flow, it's not forced in, but I understand your point of injection or sprying which seems like is been forced in.
"Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. "
Forced induction means air forced into the cylinder.
use it as your personal consideration. N2O goes with the flow, it's not forced in, but I understand your point of injection or sprying which seems like is been forced in.
"Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. "
Forced induction means air forced into the cylinder.
02-22-2002, 12:13 AM
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What companies make superchargers for our beloved TL? and what other work should be done with the supercharger????:smokin:
What companies make superchargers for our beloved TL? and what other work should be done with the supercharger????:smokin:
1. get a custom setup
2. get the 3.5 conversion. do a search on it...
search on Acura-CL.com as well
02-22-2002, 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Bitium
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Since when is nitrous force induction????
I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
you are welcome
02-22-2002, 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by SoundSpeed
Alright, alright, alright Julio and SL, I got it.
You have just corrected me on one of my most long held misconceptions. I humbly bow my head and thank you.
Alright, alright, alright Julio and SL, I got it.
You have just corrected me on one of my most long held misconceptions. I humbly bow my head and thank you.
02-22-2002, 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by SL1200MK4
NOS is not forced induction!!!
Nitro contents more Oxygen compared to Air. So, you can inject more gas into the engine. But the compression ratio is unchanged because the % of oxygen levle rose because of NOS got a higher % of oxygen.
While force induction on the other hand simply stuff more air into the engine, so the Oxygen level is the same but the COMPRESSION in the engine is different. You got more air in there, but the volume is the same, because is compressed...
hope this helps
NOS is not forced induction!!!Nitro contents more Oxygen compared to Air. So, you can inject more gas into the engine. But the compression ratio is unchanged because the % of oxygen levle rose because of NOS got a higher % of oxygen.
While force induction on the other hand simply stuff more air into the engine, so the Oxygen level is the same but the COMPRESSION in the engine is different. You got more air in there, but the volume is the same, because is compressed...
hope this helps
As for superchargers/turbos - they do stuff more air which does increase the amount of O2 - just not at a higher % like N2O, the result allows more fuel to be used but also increases the amount of expandable gas available.
02-22-2002, 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
you don't wanna argue with Bitium, Inspire
you don't wanna argue with Bitium, Inspire
02-22-2002, 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire
no attempt was made... just thought everything comes out later than what's generally expected...
no attempt was made... just thought everything comes out later than what's generally expected...
well i still think it's worth the wait
02-22-2002, 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
hehe you referring to the res? well i still think it's worth the wait
hehe you referring to the res?
well i still think it's worth the wait
THX fo clearifying... BTW...how many hps does it give us again?... and most importantly how much dollars will it cost us???
02-22-2002, 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire
LOL... Actually, I think that's what I was thinkin THX fo clearifying... BTW...how many hps does it give us again?... and most importantly how much dollars will it cost us???
LOL... Actually, I think that's what I was thinkin
THX fo clearifying... BTW...how many hps does it give us again?... and most importantly how much dollars will it cost us???
and for the sc, actually no one knows..... but i am pretty sure it can theoretically boost more power than what the tranny can take, that's why i kept on saying that without a new powerful tranny the sc isn't gonna get us anywhere.
02-22-2002, 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
are you talking about the res or sc? hahaha..... for the res i think it would be 15hp and 15lbft for the tl-p and 20hp and 17lbft for the tls?
and for the sc, actually no one knows..... but i am pretty sure it can theoretically boost more power than what the tranny can take, that's why i kept on saying that without a new powerful tranny the sc isn't gonna get us anywhere.
are you talking about the res or sc? hahaha..... for the res i think it would be 15hp and 15lbft for the tl-p and 20hp and 17lbft for the tls?
and for the sc, actually no one knows..... but i am pretty sure it can theoretically boost more power than what the tranny can take, that's why i kept on saying that without a new powerful tranny the sc isn't gonna get us anywhere.
02-22-2002, 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire
koo koo... no estmated $ tag on any of these as of yet?
koo koo... no estmated $ tag on any of these as of yet?
the sc i have no idea, my estimate would be around 5k (from the pics of the cls that comptech worked on at the lv car show). and together with a new tranny it would be 8k... again that's my estimate
02-22-2002, 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
well the res is gonna be 300 as of now. and the mmii would be around 200 if memory serves me.
the sc i have no idea, my estimate would be around 5k (from the pics of the cls that comptech worked on at the lv car show). and together with a new tranny it would be 8k... again that's my estimate
well the res is gonna be 300 as of now. and the mmii would be around 200 if memory serves me.
the sc i have no idea, my estimate would be around 5k (from the pics of the cls that comptech worked on at the lv car show). and together with a new tranny it would be 8k... again that's my estimate
What's mmii?
02-22-2002, 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire
Freak!!!.... what~ I'm a freak now??
Freak!!!.... what~ I'm a freak now??
02-22-2002, 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire
well.. i'm not really interested in the sc because it has potential in causing damage to our engine right? Or did I receive the false info?
What's mmii?
well.. i'm not really interested in the sc because it has potential in causing damage to our engine right? Or did I receive the false info?
What's mmii?
well no one actually knows what mmii is. it's still in beta testing and so far the results are good. no dyno no nothing yet but it's supposed to be an electronic mod that has a even better bang for the buck compared to the res. what i wonder is whether the res and co-exist with the mmii and whether i can both powers by putting both on at the same time
02-22-2002, 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
hehe actually me too, i am not that into sc coz' i dont' wanna push the engine that much. well hard to say if you are damaging the engine with the sc, but it's definitely pushing it a lot
well no one actually knows what mmii is. it's still in beta testing and so far the results are good. no dyno no nothing yet but it's supposed to be an electronic mod that has a even better bang for the buck compared to the res. what i wonder is whether the res and co-exist with the mmii and whether i can both powers by putting both on at the same time
hehe actually me too, i am not that into sc coz' i dont' wanna push the engine that much. well hard to say if you are damaging the engine with the sc, but it's definitely pushing it a lot
well no one actually knows what mmii is. it's still in beta testing and so far the results are good. no dyno no nothing yet but it's supposed to be an electronic mod that has a even better bang for the buck compared to the res. what i wonder is whether the res and co-exist with the mmii and whether i can both powers by putting both on at the same time
or so I guess...
02-22-2002, 03:44 AM
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well consider you pay 300 bucks for the res and you got a constant 20hp gain at wheels throughout the WHOLE rpm band (on my car) i would definitely wait
well consider you pay 300 bucks for the res and you got a constant 20hp gain at wheels throughout the WHOLE rpm band (on my car) i would definitely wait
02-22-2002, 03:59 AM
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yup, guess we just need to do more waiting. hopefully it will come out in a month or so... it would be really about time since i will be bored about the power of my car
but i was also wondering if it will go into backorder very soon coz' of the demand..... if i can't get one before it's sold out i'd be pissed
but i was also wondering if it will go into backorder very soon coz' of the demand..... if i can't get one before it's sold out i'd be pissed
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