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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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What companies make superchargers for our beloved TL? and what other work should be done with the supercharger????:smokin:
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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There are no superchargers available for the TL. However, comptech is developing one, but who the hell knows when it will be out.

You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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last time i heard they said the sc is coming in march?
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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You want forced induction? Nitrous is all that is available.

Since when is nitrous force induction????

I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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Since when is nitrous force induction????

I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Damn, I hope so!
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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Since when is nitrous force induction????

I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
man if you say that no one is gonna argue with you
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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just make sure you get enough money to change your tranny to level 10 as well
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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Since when is nitrous force induction????

I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.

use it as your personal consideration. N2O goes with the flow, it's not forced in, but I understand your point of injection or sprying which seems like is been forced in.

"Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. "

Forced induction means air forced into the cylinder.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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Since you are sending N2O into your intake manifold. I have always considered it forced induction.
NOS is not forced induction!!!

Nitro contents more Oxygen compared to Air. So, you can inject more gas into the engine. But the compression ratio is unchanged because the % of oxygen levle rose because of NOS got a higher % of oxygen.

While force induction on the other hand simply stuff more air into the engine, so the Oxygen level is the same but the COMPRESSION in the engine is different. You got more air in there, but the volume is the same, because is compressed...

hope this helps
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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man if you say that no one is gonna argue with you
They better not
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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use it as your personal consideration. N2O goes with the flow, it's not forced in, but I understand your point of injection or sprying which seems like is been forced in.

"Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. "

Forced induction means air forced into the cylinder.
Damn you beat me on this one...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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Re: Supercharger

Originally posted by skyyman81
What companies make superchargers for our beloved TL? and what other work should be done with the supercharger????:smokin:
Althought there's no supercharger/turbo kit avaliable, you can try

1. get a custom setup

2. get the 3.5 conversion. do a search on it...

search on Acura-CL.com as well
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:14 AM
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Since when is nitrous force induction????

I bet $5 that comptech will be out with the supercharger for the TL on April 10.
Why April 10? Is a special date for comptech?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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Alright, alright, alright Julio and SL, I got it. You have just corrected me on one of my most long held misconceptions. I humbly bow my head and thank you.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Damn you beat me on this one...
you thought you stand a chance.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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Alright, alright, alright Julio and SL, I got it. You have just corrected me on one of my most long held misconceptions. I humbly bow my head and thank you.
We are just playing with you bro. What better than friends to correct you.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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but seriously i wonder how much boost the sc solely can do to the car without blowing the tranny. i bet the sc + a new good tranny would be around 8-9k??
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by SL1200MK4


NOS is not forced induction!!!

Nitro contents more Oxygen compared to Air. So, you can inject more gas into the engine. But the compression ratio is unchanged because the % of oxygen levle rose because of NOS got a higher % of oxygen.

While force induction on the other hand simply stuff more air into the engine, so the Oxygen level is the same but the COMPRESSION in the engine is different. You got more air in there, but the volume is the same, because is compressed...

hope this helps
Well just some clarification: N2O has the nice effect of releasing a higher % of O2 when heated (at about 600 degrees) then regular air - this allows for more gas into the engine and a cleaner burn. But also, as N2O vaprorizes - it has a significant cooling effect. This reduces the temp. of the intake air and increases air density. In addition the reaction produces considerably more expandable gases then regular air. And just for fun Nitrogen happens to be one of the fastest expanding gases when heated.

As for superchargers/turbos - they do stuff more air which does increase the amount of O2 - just not at a higher % like N2O, the result allows more fuel to be used but also increases the amount of expandable gas available.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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last time i heard they said the sc is coming in march?
yeah probably march 2010...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire

yeah probably march 2010...
you don't wanna argue with Bitium, Inspire
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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you don't wanna argue with Bitium, Inspire
no attempt was made... just thought everything comes out later than what's generally expected...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Inspire

no attempt was made... just thought everything comes out later than what's generally expected...
hehe you referring to the res? well i still think it's worth the wait
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:11 AM
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hehe you referring to the res? well i still think it's worth the wait
LOL... Actually, I think that's what I was thinkin THX fo clearifying... BTW...how many hps does it give us again?... and most importantly how much dollars will it cost us???
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:15 AM
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LOL... Actually, I think that's what I was thinkin THX fo clearifying... BTW...how many hps does it give us again?... and most importantly how much dollars will it cost us???
are you talking about the res or sc? hahaha..... for the res i think it would be 15hp and 15lbft for the tl-p and 20hp and 17lbft for the tls?

and for the sc, actually no one knows..... but i am pretty sure it can theoretically boost more power than what the tranny can take, that's why i kept on saying that without a new powerful tranny the sc isn't gonna get us anywhere.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:26 AM
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are you talking about the res or sc? hahaha..... for the res i think it would be 15hp and 15lbft for the tl-p and 20hp and 17lbft for the tls?

and for the sc, actually no one knows..... but i am pretty sure it can theoretically boost more power than what the tranny can take, that's why i kept on saying that without a new powerful tranny the sc isn't gonna get us anywhere.
koo koo... no estmated $ tag on any of these as of yet?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:32 AM
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koo koo... no estmated $ tag on any of these as of yet?
well the res is gonna be 300 as of now. and the mmii would be around 200 if memory serves me.

the sc i have no idea, my estimate would be around 5k (from the pics of the cls that comptech worked on at the lv car show). and together with a new tranny it would be 8k... again that's my estimate
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:36 AM
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well the res is gonna be 300 as of now. and the mmii would be around 200 if memory serves me.

the sc i have no idea, my estimate would be around 5k (from the pics of the cls that comptech worked on at the lv car show). and together with a new tranny it would be 8k... again that's my estimate
well.. i'm not really interested in the sc because it has potential in causing damage to our engine right? Or did I receive the false info?
What's mmii?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:38 AM
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:40 AM
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Freak!!!.... what~ I'm a freak now??
haha what's so special about it? look at me, 20 more posts away from post whore... that's way worse
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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haha what's so special about it? look at me, 20 more posts away from post whore... that's way worse
LOLOLOL.... i c...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:42 AM
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well.. i'm not really interested in the sc because it has potential in causing damage to our engine right? Or did I receive the false info?
What's mmii?
hehe actually me too, i am not that into sc coz' i dont' wanna push the engine that much. well hard to say if you are damaging the engine with the sc, but it's definitely pushing it a lot

well no one actually knows what mmii is. it's still in beta testing and so far the results are good. no dyno no nothing yet but it's supposed to be an electronic mod that has a even better bang for the buck compared to the res. what i wonder is whether the res and co-exist with the mmii and whether i can both powers by putting both on at the same time
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:50 AM
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hehe actually me too, i am not that into sc coz' i dont' wanna push the engine that much. well hard to say if you are damaging the engine with the sc, but it's definitely pushing it a lot

well no one actually knows what mmii is. it's still in beta testing and so far the results are good. no dyno no nothing yet but it's supposed to be an electronic mod that has a even better bang for the buck compared to the res. what i wonder is whether the res and co-exist with the mmii and whether i can both powers by putting both on at the same time
wow... that sound very interesting!!! I'd love that! Hellz yeah! But I think my T. white'll probably turn into Nighthawk black by the time it comes out... or so I guess...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:05 AM
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very impatient huh!
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:10 AM
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well consider you pay 300 bucks for the res and you got a constant 20hp gain at wheels throughout the WHOLE rpm band (on my car) i would definitely wait
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:44 AM
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well consider you pay 300 bucks for the res and you got a constant 20hp gain at wheels throughout the WHOLE rpm band (on my car) i would definitely wait
Yet, I agree.. I would love to have that...
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:59 AM
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yup, guess we just need to do more waiting. hopefully it will come out in a month or so... it would be really about time since i will be bored about the power of my car

but i was also wondering if it will go into backorder very soon coz' of the demand..... if i can't get one before it's sold out i'd be pissed
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We are just playing with you bro. What better than friends to correct you.
Indeed.
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