When i use the sport shift i would let off the gas pedal at redline to allow 1-2 shift and then immediately stomp on the pedal again to redline 2nd gear then release pedal , shift to 3rd, and stomp on the gas pedal.....

I use this technique cuz i can chirp the tires from 1st to 2nd gear but i 'm not so shure if this is slower than just stomping on the gas pedal and shifting at redline without letting off the gas pedal....

this might sound confusing ... but i hope somebody understands me....

and when i down shift at high speeds.... i rev match by blipping the throttle at the same time i down shift.... i was wondering if this is ok for our trannys...
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any replies are appreciated.. thanks

 

anybody ???????

 

And people wonder why trannys break! Here is your answer.

 

dont lift your pedal... on 1st to 2nd shift about 300rpm before line lag will=redline, DONT LIFT PEDAL...its not a manual car...2nd to 3rd shit right before redline...thereon shift at line...

for downshifting theres no possible way to rev match, again, we all wish its a manual car...just break, downshift and right before the gear engages, let go off the break a bit to compensate. repeat...

BUT this is how trannies go...try to aviod redline and downshifting. leave it in d4(99) or d5(00-up) and let the car be. peace.

 

yeah, using SS every day is how I busted my Prelude tranny at 86k miles aparently. Now I keep my TLS in D5 all the time, I think I've used SS maybe like 3 times

 

It's impossible to Rev match in an auto tranny car. Rev matching includes pushing in the clutch, blipping the throttle and releasing it. So anyone who says they're rev-matching in a pre-04 TL is mistaken.

 

D5, VSA Off, and floor it..

 

 

 

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~ dont lift your pedal... on 1st to 2nd shift about 300rpm before line lag will=redline, DONT LIFT PEDAL...its not a manual car...2nd to 3rd shit right before redline...thereon shift at line...

for downshifting theres no possible way to rev match, again, we all wish its a manual car...just break, downshift and right before the gear engages, let go off the break a bit to compensate. repeat...

BUT this is how trannies go...try to aviod redline and downshifting. leave it in d4(99) or d5(00-up) and let the car be. peace. ~

Well if we should all just leave it in D4 - D5.... Then why did ACURA make SS for?!

 

car shifts automaticaly from first to second, after that remember ur car is automatic. slam on the gas and thats that

 

thanks guys....
well i did most of that sport shift technique on my 2000 TL b4....(btw the tranny is still running fine..)
i haven't been doing much SS on the 2003 A-spec tho so i was just trying to see what you guys think....

thanks for the replies.....

I was wondering if you can chirp the tires when you floor the pedal and redline 1st then engaging into 2nd gear...
Well i've noticed that i can chirp the tires when i let off the pedal at the top of 1st gear in SS and immediately stomping the pedal while engaging into 2nd gear....
I'm just wondering if i can get the same effect from not lifting the pedal....

 

And for rev matching.....
I know we can't really rev match... but i guess i was trying to say that when i blip the throtle as i down shift... it reduces engine breaking....and the car feels like rev matching.....

 

Redlining the engine or using Sport Shift isn't going to kill your tranny. The major problem with the tranny is that repeated shifts into 3rd gear (coming from up or down) put a lot of undue stress on the 3rd gear clutch pack because there is not enough transmission fluid being used to cool 3rd gear, and there have been a lot of quality control problems with the clutch packs. The combination of these two flaws causes the 3rd gear clutch pack to slowly wear away until it completely disintegrates. Generally 4 -> 3 WOT downshifts are the worst on the tranny ... So if you're cruising on the highway and floor it and downshift into 3rd to speed up, that causes the most problems.

Now on the newest trannies, Acura has revised them so there is more fluid entering 3rd gear, and the quality control problems should have been fixed. There were also some other modifications made to help reduce this problem. But even with all of the fixes you can still probably destroy 3rd gear if you constantly do hard 4->3 WOT downshifts. So I'd recommend staying away from that!

 

where did you get such info?

 

when i downshift from 5-3, or from 4-2 i always give the gas a tap, otherwise u get this huge compression brake that i can only imagine fucks up the tranny so bad

 

so bad

 

are u kidding its a hell of a lot better then letting the engine wind it self up from the wheels spinning

 

Jeez, there should be a FAQ for this stuff ... No offense, but people always ask this and there doesn't seem to be a good place to find the info if you didn't already know where to look for it. My conclusions are all based off of Acura's findings when researching the tranny problem and what they sent to the NHTSA who was investigating whether or not they felt this was a big enough deal to issue a safety recall.

You can download the findings yourself from the NHTSA's homepage but its scanned in a low ass resolution and its very hard to read. EricL over at Acura-CL.com was kind enough to re-type damn near the whole thing.

You can read more about it on Acura-CL.com here

 

Nooooooooo! second to third is my most brutal shift. shouldn't have read that

 

this is what i mean....
thanks for clarifying for me....
and i do hope this does not stress the tranny...

 

so your saying this will happen to 2003 type S tranny's as well even after they have revised them? what about the 2004 TL's... any tranny problems with their 3rd gears?

 

one more question....
is there any way to reduce the stress on the 3rd gear while accellerating hard and/or downshifting to 3rd...?
is there a cure to the problem without having to drive like a granny out there?
I bought the 03 Type S for a reason... and i want some fun....
its sad if we are always worried about our tranny's and not driving hard at times....

 

just drive you damn car!!! *no offence or anything* but this has been talked about way too many times! Wanna find out more? Well try the search bar up there ^^^...
It's not like ALL the TL's are affected... only like 8%... Even though thats alot... its still only 8/100.... think of it that way!

 

only 8%?
ok than... i'm now more relieved....
thanks for the extra info....
i'm just kinda paranoid about using the SS sometimes....
i guess i can't worry too much if thats the way things are with our tranny's
If the Tranny dies too many times.. than i guess its time i trade in for the 2005 TL...
anyways... end of topic....

 

If you have a 2003 Type S tranny that has all of the fixes then the problem shouldn't manifest itself unless you're doing constant upshifts/downshifts into 3rd gear. Even if you give the tranny a 30 second break between shifts it should be good enough to keep the temperature down. I don't necessarily think the transmission is good enough for 300,000 miles, but its probably good enough to get you past the 100,000 mile mark.

If you're really concerned about the tranny then when you get into stop and go traffic, keep the car in SS mode and don't shift out of 2nd gear until you start moving constantly. It will cost you in gas mileage but it will help the life of the tranny out. Also read through the entire link I posted above ... It will give you a lot more insight into the problem.

2004 TLs shouldn't have this problem because they have drive by wire, which allows the computer to control the throttle, so the computer can remove the throttle when its shifting.

The pecentage of cars failing from the tranny problem is probably even less than 8%. 8% is pretty high ... Its more like less than 3%. However, everyday more and more transmissions are failing. I've heard that Acura expects the number to peak in 2005. I wouldn't be surprised if the % of bad transmissions increases as time goes on.

 

thank you very much for your great explainations....
i really appreciate it...
i guess by the time i reach 100000kms i'd probably trade in the car for something new.... right now i have only 7300kms since Nov. 2003....
everything is going fine....
i've got them to fix the sunroof rattle with tape
next i gotta bring it in to fix the passenger seat back pocket that came loose... i wonder how they are gonna fix that one....

 

haha i think if i had never joined this forum i would have been using sport shift all the time, but every time i tap it over to the left now im like ok... take it easy... i know thats silly but just my paranoia.

 

there isnt a reason to take it easy, if the tranny is defective no style of driving is going to keep it from dieing. drive it and enjoy it!

 

yup this is what happens to me too now....

 

ABOUT REV matching,
i'd like to take back what i said about the impossible, i tried it out today and apparently we are allowed to REV match, just like my GTI...BUT DO NOT ABUSE...es mas...DO NOT USE, rev matching as we have automatic trannies, and we cannot control the rate at which the chain changes gears...

peace.

 

ok this is so much help but i still have a question. Sometimes i do change between the manual shifing and automatic. I even do it while the car is going 40 or 20 mph. My question is do i have to stop completely before i switch to manual shift and then do a complete stop again to shift to automatic or i can do it while moving. I don't want to break my new 2003 TL trans., and i like manual shifting but i have no idea if what i said above can do any harm.

 

no harm at all..
u can shift into SS while in motion.....
Cheers :facelick:

 

Ok...
i'm sorry for asking so much .....but i gotta ask.......
I was wondering ...... when i use the SS, i like to let off the gas when i up shift....does this actually cause LESS stress on the tranny as opposed to if i upshift while putting the pedal down to the floor the whole time....
I hope that what i am doing is OK

 

Liqice's comments are correct...I can't say it any better than he can!

 

does anybody agree with post #35?