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Hmm Didnt know about that guy when I got mine installed. I ended up using my Valet Ket which I never really and it didnt cost me anything extra.
Also a blank uncut(no point in getting it cut) key may still be cheaper, and with the right remote system and alarm wouldnt defeat the purpose of the immobilizer system.
Also a blank uncut(no point in getting it cut) key may still be cheaper, and with the right remote system and alarm wouldnt defeat the purpose of the immobilizer system.
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I seem to remember someone saying that a new key was around $75. I may be wrong though.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
Originally posted by NSXNEXT
You don't need a key. Buy THIS instead. Much safer than mounting the key under the dash.
You don't need a key. Buy THIS instead. Much safer than mounting the key under the dash.
I wonder though, what's to keep a thief from buying one of these and splicing it inline with the ignition circuit before hotwiring? And if it only needs to be placed near the ignition (like the chip in the key), what's to keep them from wiring up one of these to a battery, making the whole set-up portable and just taking it with them when they go to boost a car?
Originally posted by NSXNEXT
I seem to remember someone saying that a new key was around $75. I may be wrong though.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
I seem to remember someone saying that a new key was around $75. I may be wrong though.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
Tony
Try asking your dealer for an uncut key just make sure they program the chip inside the key. That's what I did and my remote starter works great b/c the chip in the key bypasses the ignition...plus God forbid she gets broken into the theif can't start the car since the key is uncut.
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Originally posted by SlyTLS
Try asking your dealer for an uncut key just make sure they program the chip inside the key. That's what I did and my remote starter works great b/c the chip in the key bypasses the ignition...plus God forbid she gets broken into the theif can't start the car since the key is uncut.
Try asking your dealer for an uncut key just make sure they program the chip inside the key. That's what I did and my remote starter works great b/c the chip in the key bypasses the ignition...plus God forbid she gets broken into the theif can't start the car since the key is uncut.
thanks for the replies, much appreciated. Since the guy already installed the remote starter for both my 2k1 cl and 2k tl, i didnt have the chance to get the key done beforehand. however, the guy quoted me 25 bucks, and i told him to reconsider in the time period it would take me to finish my errands and make it over there. when i got there, he offered me 15 bucks per key, which i didnt argue about. the key is somewhere in my car, but wouldnt it take a while for a thief to find where the module is (depending on the installer, it could be in diff. locations, right?). Thanks again...
Originally posted by NSXNEXT
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
Since that works on RF? signals -- cant they theoretically tape the damn thing to the ignition and hotwire the car then?
What's this kit thing, how's it work?
I must add that when the TL is remotely started, and if the doors remain locked, the alarm goes off. I havent checked if the CL does this yet (as I just picked it up from the installer today). I also had my Infiniti I30 done there, and that doesnt sound the alarm when the car is started. The guy there told me he worked on many cars, and said most dont do that, and said that the newer acuras do this while the older ones dont (so i would presume 98 and earlier TLs). Whats everyone elses experience with this...btw, i didnt have them install the keyless off the aftermarket remote starter, but may consider this if there is no other way to actually allow the car to remain locked while warming up.
Originally posted by Stillen_I30
I must add that when the TL is remotely started, and if the doors remain locked, the alarm goes off. I havent checked if the CL does this yet (as I just picked it up from the installer today). I also had my Infiniti I30 done there, and that doesnt sound the alarm when the car is started. The guy there told me he worked on many cars, and said most dont do that, and said that the newer acuras do this while the older ones dont (so i would presume 98 and earlier TLs). Whats everyone elses experience with this...btw, i didnt have them install the keyless off the aftermarket remote starter, but may consider this if there is no other way to actually allow the car to remain locked while warming up.
I must add that when the TL is remotely started, and if the doors remain locked, the alarm goes off. I havent checked if the CL does this yet (as I just picked it up from the installer today). I also had my Infiniti I30 done there, and that doesnt sound the alarm when the car is started. The guy there told me he worked on many cars, and said most dont do that, and said that the newer acuras do this while the older ones dont (so i would presume 98 and earlier TLs). Whats everyone elses experience with this...btw, i didnt have them install the keyless off the aftermarket remote starter, but may consider this if there is no other way to actually allow the car to remain locked while warming up.
) And just disable the factory then...Damn it.
Originally posted by NSXNEXT
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
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Originally posted by NSXNEXT
I seem to remember someone saying that a new key was around $75. I may be wrong though.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
I seem to remember someone saying that a new key was around $75. I may be wrong though.
I love my valet key. I lock my pass through and glove box, that way no one can get to the goodies in my trunk.
Oh yeah, adding a remote starter to a car will always make it a little bit less secure than not. If it's installed well, the difference is minimal. I won't go into the details of how to bypass a remote starter or immobilizer on the internet. This is info that I think is best kept secret.
Originally posted by NSXNEXT
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
You would think that wouldn't you. You have just given them free reign over your car. They don't need the cut key if they have the chip. All they need to do is a simple hotwire and they'e off. That's why hiding the key is so dangerous, cut or uncut.
In my case after all that he still has my Clifford to get around, then realize that I have BlackJax after the car starts beeping, find the panel, and finally enter my exact code.
The clifford gives me great piece of mind RE:car theft, too bad they dont make an HID Alarm system.
Originally posted by Mr Hyde
If the install is done correctly, and the key is hidden up high in the dash; then the thief will never even know where to get the key from, let alone take apart the dash to get it and then use it to bypass the immobilizer.
If the install is done correctly, and the key is hidden up high in the dash; then the thief will never even know where to get the key from, let alone take apart the dash to get it and then use it to bypass the immobilizer.

Nonetheless, aftermarket alarms are the way to go and IMHO Clifford/DEI makes the best stuff out there.
Originally posted by TommyBoiSxty9
So when you bury it somewhere... i.e. up in the dash... its not making "frequency contact" until you remotely activate it? Does it then travel through wires or something? Wouldn't it always be active?
So when you bury it somewhere... i.e. up in the dash... its not making "frequency contact" until you remotely activate it? Does it then travel through wires or something? Wouldn't it always be active?
The transponder signal is sent through a wire, and it only "activates" when you use the remote starter, so the regular immobilizer feature is still engaged at all other times.
Originally posted by bebber
The transponder signal is sent through a wire, and it only "activates" when you use the remote starter, so the regular immobilizer feature is still engaged at all other times.
The transponder signal is sent through a wire, and it only "activates" when you use the remote starter, so the regular immobilizer feature is still engaged at all other times.
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