The side mount does not leak only the front engine mount. I would replace the front engine mount first since that is the one that gets the most abuse.

 

When I pulled the failed side mount there was a brown rusty water that came out of it. I couldn't see that the side had failed without removing some parts but then it was quite visibile.

 

One other thing....

When I put the jack under the oil pan it lifted the entire car so how do you replace the front motor mount when the engine doesn't separate from it. Otherwise said, I can lift the engine up to get the bolt under it.


I hope that makes sense....

 

Interesting. I wouldn't have thought this could be done without denting damaging the oil pan.

 

SAME HERE!!!! That is why Ithought it might me hydraulic also!

Why would that happen?

 

In looking at mine that had failed, I looked inside and it looks like it can collect water and it rusts either the bracket or the sleeve.

Any ideas on how much the engine should move?

 

I dont think you can lift the engine to do it. You have to support the engine, Then you undo the bolts for teh mount and then have to remove the cradle. (its the black subframe that around the whole engine and tranny. it sepperates from the rear part around the a-arms into a C shaped piece) <-- If any of that makes any sense

here is a pic. #11



Cant say for sure because i replaced mine when i pulled my tranny out and had the lower subframe removed.

 

Wow I cant make much sence of tall that, but we have to take apart the sub-frame?

Im going to try to replace my front one tomorrow. Ill let you all know.

 

you do not remove the cradle, the engine has to be lifted a few inches, that's where the labor price comes in...the front mount is attached to the the C shaped part of the subframe directly on top of the #11, it gets unbolted from the cradle...don't bend/fuck up your cradle, it is much much much much much much much more expensive to replace than all of the mounts combined

a good way to see if the mounts are broken is to turn the car on, put it in drive and hold the brake down...you need one person in the driver's seat and one person looking at the engine while the hood is up....keep your foot on the brake and give it some gas slowly, if the engine rocks excessively, you can see which way it goes and you will know what mount is bad. the front is the only one that is hydraulic, and it is the most expensive....labor + parts were about $280 from proctor acura in tallahassee fl for the hydraulic mount

and for the dude that got charged for 11 hours of analysis got blatantly ripped off, you need to get your money back...

 

i think i have a broken engine and tranny mount.

 

How much is excessively? Is it an inch?

Having replaced my side mount it moves a TON less than it did....

Thanks guys..

Rob

 

Please describe the movement before and after the changed mount.

 

When I had the tranny replaced they told me I needed engine mounts too, front and side. Told me you had to drop the engine cradle to do the front one. I took it home, bought the mounts and did it myself, 2 hours for both. The front mount comes out through the top, just gotta pull the top rad hose to the side, so do it when the engine's cool, and don't forget to unhook the hydraulic line going to the bottom of the mount.

For those that got ripped off, and anyone who's paid more than $200.00 labor (which is still too much, but shops aren't charities) got ripped off, you have my condolences!!!

 

Im waiting for my engine to cool so I can replace my fron motor mount!! Should be ready in 30 min. or so.

Got the car on jack stands, hood open, tools out and ready to work.

Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!

 

OK, WTF is going on with all of these failed engine mounts? An engine mount should almost never fail if it is designed correctly, unless there is some sort of serious abuse or collision. I'm wondering if this is yet another Acura part that needs to have a service bulletin issued.

Just out of curiosity, are these failed mounts occurring on cars with AT or 6MT?

 

you are exactly right with that statement. these mounts dont have the life that they should by any means. and they can go bad on any TL, just like the tranny

 

To be precise, I have not measured the movement either prior to or after changing the mount.

Prior to the change, the engine moved on the right and front when reved. Now, it moves about a inch or so when reved but only in the front. I would say it lifts up. The ride is better so I'm think that perhaps only the side had failed and the front is fine.

 

[QUOTE=PeteTLS]When I had the tranny replaced they told me I needed engine mounts too, front and side. Told me you had to drop the engine cradle to do the front one. I took it home, bought the mounts and did it myself, 2 hours for both. The front mount comes out through the top, just gotta pull the top rad hose to the side, so do it when the engine's cool, and don't forget to unhook the hydraulic line going to the bottom of the mount.QUOTE]

A couple of questions about your technique. How did you get the top bolt out of the hole and the new one back in. That's the part that I couldn't figure out.

 

OK people done!!!

It took about 1.5 -2 hours, by myself with limited tools in my apartment driveway!

test drove and its 95% better, I think the passenger side went bad after three months of driving with the front one bad!

IM *UCKING STOKED, NO MORE LETTING PEOPLE PASS ME!!!

 

Had one replaced on my 2003 TL when they put the 3rd transmission in.

$168 US installed

 

My cost was 120 for part and 2 hours of loving my car!

 

nice job! was it pretty straight forward?

 

 

Very straight forward. I just got scratched up a bit. It would be much easier with a buddy, but Im a champ!!

Now for the other one!!

 

So you changed the front mount right? If so, can you tell me how you got the engine out of the way to get clearance for the bolt on the top of the mount?

I've looked at this several times and without removing the sub-frame thing I don't see how you do it....

 

the engine doesnt get moved. remove the bracket bolts that hold the mount to the block.

 

Here is a step by step SUGGESTION of how to replace the front mount.....

Jack the front of the car up and place it on jack stands.
Pull all the little clips out of the plastic guard under the motor.
Undo the bolts for the bracket connected to the motor, (2 underneith, 1 up top.)
Loosen the four bolts connecting the mount to the sub-frame. (they all need long extensions.)
Undo the bolt on top of the mount.
Take the four bolts out.
Twist the mount inplace and lay it on its side.
Pull it out from the drivers side by holding the upper radiator hose to the left.
It will barely squeeze out!
Voila!!
Repeat the steps to replace with new mount. I suggest to attach the mounting bracket to the engine loosly to be able to slide the top of the mount through the hole. That is a bitch, but VERY doable!

Good luck friends.

I will be getting a side mount soon and let you all know what the deal is then!

 

which side?

 

The passenger side mount.

Suggestions?

 

One thing I forgot to mention was to put the jack under the motor just to take the weight off the mount.

 

just replaced front and side motor mount with the help of my cuz. dealer says that they can hardly keep the front mounts in stock. sounds like they go out far too frequently!!!
peter

 

You got some splainin to do Lucy.



Are the mounts...

5 - front
6 - rear
7 - left

Imma confused.

 

LOL Yes you are correct!!
The front and rear are the largest ones. I think the side mount is more for stability. ---please correct me if im mistaken---

 

Ok so 5 and 34 are one in the same. 34 is a cover that comes attached to the mount. I would say that 34 is the best picture of the WHOLE mount.
9 is the bracket mount to the block.
7 is the side mount and 4 and 8 are the brackets.
10 is the bracket ount for the rear motor mount.

Hope this helps.

 

actually 7 is the right and 2 is the left (more of a tranny mount)

 

today i was quoted by my mechanic for $255 to change my front(34) and right(7) motor mounts.

parts-- front $115 and right $60

labor--$80

sound fair????

 

You bet it does. I paid almost that just for the front mount.

 

where???.....my mechanic looked up the price in his book right in front of me.

 

At Nalley Acura.

 

Here in canada (quebec) i was quoted for 350$cnd(300$us) just for the front mount.. i need to change mine, do you know a place ill be cheaper ?
Thanks