mike_snyder

Here was the deal. Red Light, two lanes, I am in left lane, 90% of traffic turns left at the next light approximately 1500-1800ft. from the Red light I am stopped at, the left lane is the only lane that can make the left turn at the next light. I saw a TransAm coming up to the light in the right lane. D3, a/c off, VSA off, radio too loud to hear tires. Light turns green. I think he expected to take me with little effort (if I recall the TransAm has the 5.7L V8) He was rolling and didn't come to a full stop when the light turned green, but only moving 2-4 mph. There was a lot of paint on the road (crosswalk etc...road surface was poor), so I didn't mash the gas, once I got moving a few feet, I nailed the gas to the floor. I don't think the TransAm expected it, then he started rolling, trying to get in front of me b4 the next light, his front end was right at my rear bumper all the way to 70-75mph. He couldn't get past my rear bumper! I was like WTF? Then we had to shut it down and hard brake, he pulled behind me, we got in traffic, no more fun.

Not really a true race, but I couldn't believe that the huge V8 couldn't pull on me! I know if there was open road ahead, he would have killed me, but most of the encounters I get in are not on the open road, and if they are I usually shut down at 90-100 anyway. Don't need Jonny Law hassle. :wow:

I love my TLS! BTW, I am bone stock

FugittiveTLS`03

Are you sure it was a T/A?? Not a V6?? Are you sure he was racing you?? All the question are because i have 2000 T/A WS6 and there is no way my `03 TLS could keep up w/ it unless i was burnig the tires off the whole way down the road.....not being a jerk its just my daily comparison.
OR he/she had a 6spd and hasn't taken driving lessons

Yaron2

sweet ....

BlackShadow

Just cause a car is more powerful does not necessarily mean it will win everytime. Street racing depends on a lot of variables, especially the driver.

So...good kill!

Skoraeus

In some cases, a race can be decided by the driver, but in others, there is too big an obstacle to overcome. Mike didn't mention what year T/A it was, so a win could be possible. If the car was an LS1, then the driver didn't realize there was a race going on.

The LS1's are 2 seconds faster through the quarter than a TL-S, which is approximately 20 car lengths through the quarter mile. Even an inexperienced driver has a hard time screwing up that much of a power difference.

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

I couldn't agree more -- let's just hypothesize and say that he WAS running the LS1 V8, and that he did have the 6MT, ... perhaps, since he was on the roll, he was in 2nd or 3rd, and really didn't feel like downshifting to 2nd or 1st to smoke the TL-S outta the water. If that was the 3800 V6, congrats, you just beat on of the slowest rwd sports cars around. Either way, congrats on the race.

FugittiveTLS`03

Very true but even my 96 T/A w/ LT1 pulled a best time of 13.75's with just 2 chamber flowmaster, K&N and a foil for the Throttle body that's it. after the race everyone came up looking for the NOS or something else..flashlights out and everything. You are right if it was 92 or later it would be a good race.....If it didn't have any major mods.

FugittiveTLS`03

I'm sorry
where are my manners........Good Kill!
were all friends here!

mike_snyder

Ok, I tried to do some research to see what the car was. I never saw the car from other than my rearview mirror..I assumed b/c it had the huge air intakes in the hood it was a T/A. I see from the pics on the web that they all look basically the same. I never saw what it was. Next time, I 'll do some research b4 I post . I doubt it was a V6 b/c I doubt he would have been right on my bumper. I probably caught him off guard and there wasn't enough road for him to get in front.

AKRY

With air intake ducts on the hood, it would be a WS6, with RAM-AIR package... which, in auto or manual, will smoke our TLS just about every way........ I would have to say, either the driver really doesn't know how to drive, OR he didn't even realize you were racing....

P.S. Even '94 Tran AM would smoke our TLS....

Andy Kuo

Hokie D

A 94 would? Hmmm.... the T/A would win if given enough road, but don't know about smoking a TL-S. I thought 94's were mid-high 14 second cars.

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2002 Acura TL Type-S
Aegean Blue, Blk Leather
No Modifications
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1993 5.0L Mustang Coupe
Dugan Racing X-Drilled Rotors
Kenny Brown Subframes
Baumann Shift Kit
3:27 Motorsport Gears
ADS Computer Chip
Motorsport Pulleys
1.5" Mach I Ram Air Hood
Flowmaster 2.5" Exhaust

Skoraeus

The 94's were LT1 cars and they were 13.6 to 14.3 cars. I had a 91 Z28 (L98) and when it was stock it ran 14.28. The LT1's were generally quicker than that.

T Ho

I had a '93 Z28. I ran 13.89@98mph (with a 1.89 60' time) three times in a row, back when I had it (strangely enough, in '93 ). The car was 100% stock, auto, with 3:23 rear gears.

Todd

samkws

maybe that was a firebird with 3.8V6

not the V8...they will kill anyone for sure...
even auto can hit 60 in less than 5.5sec

daimler560

Hey Hokie-

Cool pics, but how come your motor is bone cold, and the gear selector indicatior reads first gear?

Either way, it's bad to run a cold motor so hard...

Pascal Type-S

Yesterday I raced a recent Trans Am ('98 - '02) for several stop lights. The first time I punched it, he didn't expect it, and shortly after I hit 2nd he was beginning to fly passed me. The second time we raced, he was prepared, and after we both gunned it he beat me off the line and continued to pull away. That car peeled out through it's entire 1st gear, too.

The Trans Am and Camaro with the 5.7L motor has 310 HP stock and is dripping high and low-end torque out of every gear. These guys run 5.5 second 0-60's and high 13's in the quarter, stock. The Ram Air version is even faster.

Kramer

Photoshop???

RUF87

Excellent point BlackShadow.

I too have added a T/A to my kill list. If they are stock, then they are beatable in a number of ways.

First of all, Pontiac has had a rough time getting T/A to produce consistent times. Never heard why, but plus .5 second differentiations are common.

Secondly, Mike (the TLS driver) got a slight jump. Slight on the street can be a second in reaction time.

So never confuse tech specs with street results. Just wait till a slower car beats you for the same reason. It happened to me once.

A Volvo 40 Turbo took me the first time. I was out of my power band and he was spooled up. The next 3 races were mine because I forced him to my terms.

I've done the same thing to 'Stangs and other faster cars. It's funny knowing you got one up on them.

RUF

snowdude1

i have a tls and stock my best friend had a stock z28 auto aswell. we raced for about i would say to get up to mayb 70 and i was basically at his door. then i got my aem intkae, headers exaust and pullys done. beat him clearly and a kid in my grade has a ws6. he is a new drive and did beat me but not by as much as i had expected. does any1 w/ similar options tkaen their car to the track and run. i am curious what the times are. also s2000 can not keep up with my car. by the time i am in 3rd he is already in 4th and pullin to low of rpms to make ne sign power.